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Israel – The Sociopathic State

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posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 07:39 AM
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Israel – The Sociopathic State


www.uruknet.info

The ruling quality of the sociopath is a complete lack of empathy towards the Other. The sociopath is incapable of feeling for other people. The Israelis have kept the Gaza strip blockaded, hermetically sealed for a year and a half, causing untold suffering for the people of Gaza. The lack of empathy for so many helpless human beings is sociopathic. Israel has long held its status as a sociopathic state.
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 07:39 AM
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I know what I will get replies like. but I just ask you before I will get kicked hard to read the article from the link.

Than please feel free to make any comments for bringing this thread here. BTW I hope this article was not here before. If so, mods please just close the thread.

IMO this is the sda true about a most of israelis and their goverment. but to make it clear I have a lot of jewish froends and I know well that also in Israel there are a lot of greate people. the problem is that they are not a majority.

www.uruknet.info
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 07:43 AM
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Article is close to the truth... Uranium ammunitions to Urban area...

Depleted uranium found in Gaza victims


Medics tell Press TV they have found traces of depleted uranium in some Gazan residents wounded in Israel's ground offensive into the strip.


www.presstv.ir...



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 08:01 AM
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In my opinion this changes EVERYTHING.
The full implications are multi level and very regrettable,depending upon extent of contamination,which depends on veracity of report.I do tend to trust Norwegians,but for the fact they sided with the actual Nazis in the Thirties.And of course the US gov't has done the same only moreso in recent conflicts.But that,if true, is a gauntlet thrown down by the ZOG and will be answered in kind,in time.Even in Buddhism there are unforgivables...



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 08:39 AM
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Israel and its residents feel that they are the chosen people because of their religious beliefs. Sadly they think they are the chosen people because of religion, perhaps they have forgotten their similarity to the other humans on earth and somehow feel they are more powerful? I have yet to see a clark kent from israel...

that said. I hope to visit Israel and see its beauty one day, sadly the only beauty that can be seen is the beauty in the landscape, not in the hearts of its leaders.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 09:05 AM
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History speaks volumes about that area however todays IDF is in reality a proxy of the US Military. If not for the USA the IDF would not have the destructive power that it in fact does. In another thread I explained that that whole area (Mideast) has been contested for ages but ultimately it was Brittan and shortly after the USA that decided to slice all of these places up.




A rising demand for oil, fuel shortages and price increases during the war, and rumors of depleting domestic resources soon after the war rallied the American administration to give active support to American oil companies in search of foreign oil. Mesopotamia would not be a preserve for the European oil interests, Washington decided.


Source To Read



During World War I, the British waged the Sinai and Palestine Campaign under General Allenby. At the same time, the intelligence officer T. E. Lawrence ("Lawrence of Arabia") was stirring up the Arab Revolt in the region. The British defeated Ottoman Turkish forces in 1917 and occupied Palestine and Syria. The land was under British military administration for the remainder of the war.




United States Secretary of State Robert Lansing was a member of the American Commission to Negotiate Peace at Paris in 1919. He explained that the system of mandates was simply a device created by the Great Powers to conceal their division of the spoils of war, under the colour of international law. If the territories had been ceded directly, the value of the former German and Ottoman territories would have been applied to offset the Allies claims for war reparations. He also explained that Jan Smuts had been the author of the original concept.


So, the British, German, French and Americans were converting their respective fleets to burn oil and RESOURCES lay at the root of all conflicts; be they land, energy, slaves, fuel or plunder.

[edit on 4-1-2009 by Alpha_Magnum]



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 09:15 AM
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good resume. thanks for posting this.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 09:40 AM
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come on, can you find a more biased link?


Terrorist times is not a vaild or honest source.


Please, don't try the poor me of the Hamas, it does not fly.


If you post what is happening, try posting what caused it to happen, the Hamas attacks.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 09:48 AM
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first, it does not make any difference to me who is saying truth. and the source has nothing to do with it unless the given statement is a lie.

second, the roots of present situation are much different than palestinians "rockets" (BTW, have you seen what these rockets are build from? - the kids can do better in any other country). try to find out about the real histry of the conflict.

and at the end, the thread is not about the conflict itself but about the heartless people in the Israeli government. and unfortunately the others who are supporting this holocaust in Gaza among the israeli citizens.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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well, its hard to report on whats happening when they are moving foreign reporters further away today. this after the courts ruled in their favor wednesday (telling isreal to allow this to be covered). you cant polish a terd.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by czacza
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first, it does not make any difference to me who is saying truth. and the source has nothing to do with it unless the given statement is a lie.

second, the roots of present situation are much different than palestinians "rockets" (BTW, have you seen what these rockets are build from? - the kids can do better in any other country). try to find out about the real histry of the conflict.

and at the end, the thread is not about the conflict itself but about the heartless people in the Israeli government. and unfortunately the others who are supporting this holocaust in Gaza among the israeli citizens.


Yes, but anyone knows that terrorist times will only write lies.

Yes, lets discuss the roots of this war, the Hamas rocket and mortar attacks daily.


If you want to discuss the closing of the border from Gaza to Israel, lets post the pictures of the results of the sucide bomber who intentionally target civillians.

Yes, we can see history shows the Hamas causing untold death and distruction.


Heartless, yep, thats the Hamas terrorists.

Lets all read what the creator of Hamas has to say about the terrorist organistion (in another post on ATS).

The only people who support killing are the Hamas terrorist and those who support their murdering.



[edit on 1/4/2009 by mrmonsoon]



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 10:15 AM
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Statements like this one you made:

The only people who support killing are the Hamas terrorist and those who support their murdering.

show why this conflict goes on and on. Killing is obviously being done by both sides, all the time. Neither side wears a halo.
Neither do countries, like the U.S., that fund the war-making instead of peace-making have a right to claim rightiousness.
There is a lot of guilt to spread around, and maybe its time to take a look at the part that the superpowers are playing in enabling this conflict to continue instead of blaming one side or the other.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 10:24 AM
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roots? imagine the situation like this:

the guy is coming to you house and orders you to leave cause he has got the permission to live here given him by the local authority. you are free to live in the car on the parking in front of the house but you can not leave it. you do throw a stones into the garden. so than you are bombed for this. you find it normall and fair?

this is what happened there.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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The Former US president Jimmy Carter has broken the silence about Israel's nuclear power and told reporters at a literary festival in UK on Sunday that Israeli has an arsenal of 150 nuclear war heads.

Nobel Peace Prize winner also criticized Israel for its 11 months siege on the Gaza Strip by describing it as "one of the greatest human rights crimes now existing on Earth, There is no reason to treat these people this way" Caters told Reporters.

The Israeli has placed Gaza under total Siege on June 2007 shortly after Hamas movement who won the Palestinian Legislative elections took total control there.

Since then to date, 163 Palestinian patients have died in Gaza due to the Israeli siege, those patients have been prevented from leaving the Palestinian coastal region to get the life saving medical care they needed.

The Siege also left Gaza in short of fuel, food, and water according to the United Nations reports.


Now in reality this started prior to WW1 and through that the USA and GBR have done everything possible to Balkanize the entire Mideast. The USA and GBR are experts at warfare. Both nations know how to get the other guy to fight via proxy. The fact is that the USA and GBR are in this and have been in this since oil was discovered in Mesopotamia (now Iraq) and Iran.

Many posters here have a short attention span and forget thousands of years of history and go with the old, "Well this is really about the Palestinians firing mortars and rockets at the Israelis" excuse! In reality Jews began entering Palestine in earnest since 1917 thanks to the British, French, Italians and America. It is almost like the 15 - 30 million invaders from Mexico and South America. A complete takeover.

Heck Judaism is a RELIGION not a location. In my view the Palestinians have been boxed in and forced to live under an occupation and many posters here and in other place want to turn that around. Gazza is a ghetto and ultimately the UN and prior to that "The League of Nations" sliced that whole place up!

This stands in favor of our Imperial nations like the USA since it keeps us present in an area that is not US soil so is still subject to our influence, rule and domination. We have made it our business to make the Mideast into our business for better or worse. Our position is entirely selfish in every possible way and we don't even have a moral leg to stand on.

The original point of Western presence in that area was to secure passage to the resources and over 100 years nothing has changed. The USA has supported both sides in wars like the Iran-Iraq war and we have armed proxies like Osama Bin Laden to fight against our resource competitor RUSSIA.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by czacza
The Israelis have kept the Gaza strip blockaded, hermetically sealed for a year and a half, causing untold suffering for the people of Gaza.


Guess you forgot that Israel isn' the only country bordering the Gaza - and that EGYPT has also sealed it's border. Guess you forget WHY these two countries sealed their borders - because of the bad behavior of the 'palestinians'.

BTW - Know how many 'palestinians' have starved to death in the past year and a half? Answer - ZERO. They've got plenty of resources that allow them to bring in expensive weapons and obviously plenty of resources to bring in the food they need since none have starved and the expensive rockets keep raining down on Israel.

This thread - like so many other blanket anti-Israel threads - is pure bunk.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by czacza
The Israelis have kept the Gaza strip blockaded, hermetically sealed for a year and a half, causing untold suffering for the people of Gaza.


Guess you forgot that Israel isn' the only country bordering the Gaza - and that EGYPT has also sealed it's border. Guess you forget WHY these two countries sealed their borders - because of the bad behavior of the 'palestinians'.

BTW - Know how many 'palestinians' have starved to death in the past year and a half? Answer - ZERO. They've got plenty of resources that allow them to bring in expensive weapons and obviously plenty of resources to bring in the food they need since none have starved and the expensive rockets keep raining down on Israel.

This thread - like so many other blanket anti-Israel threads - is pure bunk.



Maybe those other nations you mention fear reprisals from the USA and Israel? Did you ever think of that? Of course not since you believe that the Jews should be able to make a home for more Jews on someone else's land.

Regarding the blockade just the other day a former US Representative had the boat she and others chartered rammed 3 times by your friends "The Israelis" and the Palestinians have had to endure a wall reminiscent of the Soviets wall. This created an actual container called Gazza that there is no escape from.

Now you have labeled this as an "Anti Israeli" thread however in my opinion this is the thread that deplores the violence and imprisonment of the Palestinians. Let's face it the Israelis are nuclear and other than the USA likely to use their nukes!



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 01:27 PM
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I love when people like u use the "anti - Israel" cover for all the uncomfortable statements. the funny is that it is the only one country in whole world with such a problem. I never saw called so "anti-Arab" threads or posts.

instead of trying to find out the possibility of changing the situation, jews always use "anti-Israeli" syndrom to close the discussion.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by czacza
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I love when people like u use the "anti - Israel" cover for all the uncomfortable statements. the funny is that it is the only one country in whole world with such a problem. I never saw called so "anti-Arab" threads or posts.

instead of trying to find out the possibility of changing the situation, jews always use "anti-Israeli" syndrom to close the discussion.


we aLL know what would change this.

NO MORE HAMAS ATTACKS.

NO MORE SUCIDE BOMBING

NO MORE TARGETING CIVILLIANS-THEY ARE PROUD OF THAT


iF ONE SIDE IS ALLOWE TO ATTACK, THEN THERE IS WAR AND THE ATTACKER, hAMAS GETS WHAT IT GETS.

If there is to be no counter attacks, there needs to be no attacks.

Either both sides don't make war and it's ok or both sides make war and it's ok.

You don't get it both ways, Allow the Hamas to attack and stop the counter attacks.





posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon

Originally posted by czacza
reply to post by FlyersFan
 


I love when people like u use the "anti - Israel" cover for all the uncomfortable statements. the funny is that it is the only one country in whole world with such a problem. I never saw called so "anti-Arab" threads or posts.

instead of trying to find out the possibility of changing the situation, jews always use "anti-Israeli" syndrom to close the discussion.


we aLL know what would change this.

NO MORE HAMAS ATTACKS.

NO MORE SUCIDE BOMBING

NO MORE TARGETING CIVILLIANS-THEY ARE PROUD OF THAT


iF ONE SIDE IS ALLOWE TO ATTACK, THEN THERE IS WAR AND THE ATTACKER, hAMAS GETS WHAT IT GETS.

If there is to be no counter attacks, there needs to be no attacks.

Either both sides don't make war and it's ok or both sides make war and it's ok.

You don't get it both ways, Allow the Hamas to attack and stop the counter attacks.




That isn't going to change anything do to the reality that the Palestinians are an oppressed people that are forced to live in a walled prison. The Israelis have stolen their land and enslaved these people. Clearly your view is that of the "Team Player" type. If the day comes that in your country a military state develops you will then regret what you have been trained to parrot. Violence beget violence!



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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and what about this proposal:

bringing back the humanitarian aid to Gaza until it is not going to be neccessary

giving the palestinians their land back

rebuilding their infrastructure

rebuilding their factories and houses

giving the money for the "new begining"

bringing to Gaza internet and satellites so we can teach them


I am not a socialist but WE made it so that they lost it all. and WE are responsible.


I am pretty sure that would stop it directly, but noone is wishing them to live in normal world. the easier is to murder all of them and this is the plan which is now in progress.



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