Gaza families eat grass as Israel locks border

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Guns Versus Butter in the Palestinian Authority

www.prospect.org...

I had to do search on your link and found an article date April 08. It referred to Barak and Condi. What relevence or credibility does the half baked efforts of these creature have?

Since you like links check this one out. It is about how Israel demanded its shekels in Euros from the US tax payers;

www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com...

news.bbc.co.uk...

thura.newsvine.com...

How come Israel knew about the dollar crash a year ahead and how many Israeli businesses lost money in the collapsing banks and financial houses?

Originally posted by magicmushroom
Dooper , Have you ever wondered that maybe Muslims are smarter than us and how does one equate inteligence by the means to destroy oneself. Can you list all the Muslim wars that have taken place, all the countries invaded and occupide by Muslims. I think that crown goes to the US does it not.

The ME is the birth place of math science and a whole list of other subjects , whilst we were living in caves the ME had culture, medicine and education. What did we have nothing, nothing but war and ignorance, virtues that we peddle this very day.

I wonder how many countries Muslim communities have been thrown out of other than Israel?

reply to post by masonwatcher


masonwatcher, you were really doing good right up to the part where you stated erroneously that "It's never been about race, culture, or nationality."

You need to go study the true source of the problem with the Israeli's, in which Islam requires them to kill all Jews and Christians, and all others until religion, all of it is for Allah alone.

So much for your memes and the "normal processes." You may wish to get past Sociology 101 and get into the meat of the subject. Lots of nice words and phrases, but the real world does not reflect these vaporous bull droppings. You want a good understanding of a problem, then get right on down to the one, single, basic root of the problem. Only after addressing this should one have the luxury to consider ancillary branches.

The anti-memes, to use your term, can be found in Islam. The anit-memes as you state, are in fact the hatred and intolerance of Islam. Thus your statement that such a meme would require barren and stupid minds. Yep. That's exactly what you have there.

And I agree that this anti-meme will eventually destroy the cultures in which it is propagated. Those who are Islamic.

Therefore, I find that your postulation that the problem meme is Zionism (after all, Israel is already established) is erroneous, and then that would likely make your ultimate supposition (cause/effect) of the destruction of Israel and the US is not likely.

And your other suppositions assume one thing: no further technological advances beyond honing and improving the ones already in existence.

Take the other courses next quarter, and you'll start to see what I mean.

Dooper, Islam does not state that all other races or religions should be killed off. The Koran states that all religions and people should be respected. It is only the hate filled who abuse religion for their own ends that do this and they are in all religions. Perhaps you have not heard about the inquesition.

reply to post by magicmushroom


Magic, don't pull that Muslim apologist crap on me. You're not talking to an ignorant illiterate who hasn't studied.

I can read that exact requirement in the Qur'an, the "inspired" writing of Ishaq, Tabari, and Bukhari.

You really don't want me to post specifics, do you?

Dooper, I'm not an apologist and I know what it says in the Quran I have one. And you are free to post what you like. But if you post then post the truth not a twisted version of if or your interpretation of it. Or the Western Goverments version and view of Muslims or anyone else for that matter. They could make a saint look like a mass murderer.

Originally posted by FoxStriker
Disgraceful, seems like a concentration camp to me. Israel should know this better than anyone else, not to do this...

Hate only brings more hate.

Yes it is disgraceful that the palestinian leaders buy, arms instead of feeding the hungry, their own people.

reply to post by magicmushroom


Your choice.

Keep in mind, even Muhammed couldn't keep his own BS straight.

"The Prophet said, 'It is a bad thing that some of you to say, 'I have forgotten such and such verse of the Qur'an.' For indeed, I have been caused to forget it. So you must keep on reciting the Qur'an because it escapes from the hearts of men faster than a runaway camel." Bukhari V6B61N513

"So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief/non Muslims) and submit to the religion of Allah alone. [in the entire world.]

"Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah." Muslim C9B1N31

"He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals." Ishaq: 324

"The Prophet said at the conquest of Mecca: 'There is no migration now, but only Jihad, fighting for the cause of Islam. When you are asked to set out on a Jihad expedition, you should readily do so." Muslim: C20B1N4597

And if there's any question as to why Muhammed wasn't exactly pleased with Jews, consider:

"The Jews of Quanuqa replied, 'Muhammed, do you think that we are like your people? Do not be deluded by the fact that you met a people with no knowledge and you made good use of your opportunity." Tabari VII:85/Ishaq 3:63

Ignorance.

A lot of the posts in this thread are so blatantly racist and bigoted that I would not even bother to flatter the poster with a reply or comment.



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Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by masonwatcher

 

masonwatcher, you were really doing good right up to the part where you stated erroneously that "It's never been about race, culture, or nationality."

You need to go study the true source of the problem with the Israeli's, in which Islam requires them to kill all Jews and Christians, and all others until religion, all of it is for Allah alone.

So much for your memes and the "normal processes." You may wish to get past Sociology 101 and get into the meat of the subject. Lots of nice words and phrases, but the real world does not reflect these vaporous bull droppings. You want a good understanding of a problem, then get right on down to the one, single, basic root of the problem. Only after addressing this should one have the luxury to consider ancillary branches.

The anti-memes, to use your term, can be found in Islam. The anit-memes as you state, are in fact the hatred and intolerance of Islam. Thus your statement that such a meme would require barren and stupid minds. Yep. That's exactly what you have there.

And I agree that this anti-meme will eventually destroy the cultures in which it is propagated. Those who are Islamic.

Therefore, I find that your postulation that the problem meme is Zionism (after all, Israel is already established) is erroneous, and then that would likely make your ultimate supposition (cause/effect) of the destruction of Israel and the US is not likely.

And your other suppositions assume one thing: no further technological advances beyond honing and improving the ones already in existence.

Take the other courses next quarter, and you'll start to see what I mean.

Thanks for your critique regarding what I wrote but it was not for you. You are a zionist so you will instinctively subvert everything because you can't help it, it's in your nature.

Your comments were patronising, but hey, you are special after all being a zionist. As for your advise on writing; you do realise a dissertation with footnotes on an ATS reply is overkill but then you are a zionist and over reaction is your speciality.

In reference to technology in your comment, you are imparting a zionist anti-meme. They same could be inversely said of your ilk; doesn't a zionist love to collaborate on everything. When that door is shut, katsas and sayanim take over and steal everything and for a bit of extra resell technology to the highest bidder.

I also find it fascinating that when zionists slander and make allegations, one should always look closely at you. It invariably turns out you zionists are the ones doing these slanderous and terrible things. Case in point the leading lights of the pornagraphic industry. Need I say more? I suspect I will have to; Israeli ip addresses have been banned from data storage websites because Israelis were squirreling away so much internet pornography servers world wide were filled up.

Check this link out;

www.ynetnews.com...

As for honing other people's technology, do you realise that is what Israel does. Last year's best invention in Israel was a Berreta hand gun on a stick and won prices because it 'saves lives'. Basically an Israeli killer can shoot from behind corners without getting shot back.

Check this link;

www.gizmag.com...

You do remember the Catholic Church scandals of the late 1990s and how the zionist media made a meal of it? Well guess which group has the most convictions of holy paedophiles? Let's say the church has a long memory and a few other people are keeping track.

Check it out;

jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com...

David Kaye as featured on 'To Catch a Predator'.

uk.youtube.com...

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Originally posted by resistancia
A lot of the posts in this thread are so blatantly racist and bigoted that I would not even bother to flatter the poster with a reply or comment.

res

That's always the easy way out....to throw the "race card" out there because someone else has an opposing viewpoint and actual argument to make....

I haven't seen anything on this thread that was blatantly "racist" or "bigoted". I do see 2 sides to an argument about different peoples.

reply to post by CreeWolf


I have already stated twice that both sides are guilty of atrocities.

Some posters in this thread seem intent on taking sides. It is not a sport.

I will not pick a side in this debate to satisfy racists and bigots. I prefer to reman objective instead of getting into a slanging match and name calling
fellow ATSers.


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reply to post by CreeWolf



That is just how zionists shut down debate. The call it hate speech then turn around and desecrate other people's religions.

reply to post by masonwatcher

Mason, thanks for your reply.

Your propensity for mistaken assumption is uncanny. There has to be a science to study that inherant capability. It's like mathematics, only backwards.

I'm not a Zionist. I'm not a Jew. I've never lived in Israel, and in fact, I've only known two Jews my entire life. Years ago, we worked together for the same employer, but we never socialized together.

In fact, I thought Zionism was a term to describe a desire for establishing a Jewish State. Since the Jewish state of Israel was established in 1948, then that term doesn't fit here.

I feel safe to assume you mean the other definition of Zionism, or a euphemism for anti-semitism.

Anti-semitic. That would explain your stance.

Let's see. You mistake me for a Jew, or favorable to the Jews. Wrong. Your subsequent talking points then are based on an erroneous assumption, and therefore useless.

I'm blue-eyed, blonde-haired, and my ancestors came from the northern lands which used to raid all of Europe, except a Cherokee great, great, grandmother.

So, I'm sorry to disappoint, but it's merely my admiration of other fighting folks. I admire their courage, their abilities in spite of being vastly outnumbered over the decades. My respect for fighting men is just in my blood I suppose.

So all that rambling about Zionist-this and Zionist-that was a complete waste.

What does that leave us?

Oh yes, Technology.

You misunderstood. I was saying that your previous assumptions were based on current technologies or improvements on existing technologies.

There have been quantum advances in new energies that would make the entire Middle East once again poor and irrevalent whenever required. No more oil money. Of course, there would always be a market again at $ 0.20 per gallon, but right now we have a lot of Americans and Europeans relying on this industry. No use breaking it out prematurely.

If these ME countries become poor again, and revert back to their backward ways, then your previously posted assumptions would once again, be incorrect.

You see, even with their wealth, they can only become more and more like full-bodied paraplegics. Rather than develop industrial bases with their money, they buy Western weapons.

Not too bright.

Hamas now controls the Gaza Strip, let the Hamas government feed it's citizens. But it won't or can't because the government is spending its money on rockets and suicide belts and training for the suicide bombers.

reply to post by dooper


But you are a zionist. I think you are confused; zionism does not equate with Judaism. There are a lot of Jews that are antizionists. Further all zionists are antisemite, such yourself. You do know Arabs are Semites?

I, on the other hand, am a 6'3 muscular black man, with two degrees, an IQ of 148 and a member of Mensa. Although I am being immodest, I feel it necessary to say this because it explains my sensitivity to the plight of the Palestinians. Also I can't stand the rank hypocrisy of zionists such as yourself.

You accuse me of inverting things when your own arguments are second hand and fallacious. You are prepared to opine of 500 million people of different nations and a world religion then pontificate about others of talking of this or that. The only vagaries are the ill informed perverted statements you make.

You are the one who is not very bright.

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But I'm not a Zionist. Your vague generalities intended to conceal your actual suggestion doesn't get past me.

I just like the fact that the small country of Israel has kicked the asses of all those surrounding countries that have lined up against them. I like the fact that even outnumbered over ten to one, they prevailed.

They, I hate to admit, are without doubt the most brilliant people as a group in the world.

I'm 5'9", very wiry, former Special Forces, 42 or 44 confirmed, depending on whether you read battalion or team records, likewise have two degrees, and am one course short of having a third, a published author, a keynote speaker at Special Operations functions, and I personally found members of Mensa to be a collection of arrogant turds, especially when they all fell below my own IQ.

It was a bitch when I entered 7th grade, only to be told that I was college, second year, ninth month, I scored the highest score on the science exams ever scored, and to boot, they want me to skip high school right at the moment that the girl with the biggest TaTa's was sitting right behind me.

I also can't stand pretentious braggarts whose entire discourse is 10% hot air and 90% bull droppings.

You may be right. I may not be very bright, but then as I am one of 112,000,000, then that kinda leaves you behind, doesn't it?

Oh these pics... To those who think they are humans, but doesnt feel as they should













Happy holiday!

I just decided... And I will tell that to my wife. I will not spend my Christmas this year, because horrific suffer in Gaza. That is something what I can do.

Maybe I will go to Buddist temple in 25th and I will hope munk to pray for Gazan peoples... Just maybe.

Zionist bastards!

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by t0ken

 

When in 1948 Israel declared itself an independent State, this fledgling nation was immediately attacked by a force that comprised the Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians, ALS, Lebanese, and Saudi's.

Exactly how does that square with your claim of Israel bombing the crap out of local Muslims?

I don't give a bull crap about what israel declared in 1948.I like to get down to the basic and the bottom line is israel is an illegal immigrant terrorist zionist state that was created when the zionists moved to ME.It was zionists that took over muslim territory not the other way round. Understand?