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Elite power list for anyone that feels we are losing against the NWO

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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:06 PM
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I think creating a list of root problems is great, however, what good is the list if we will do nothing about it? Talking on all of those problems will be too great of a burden for any one group.

Just like the link that XXXN3O posted at the beginning of the thread, a lot of people agree that once you admit that we are being controlled, know one knows what to do next.


I am creating this list as a first step in ultimately solving this problem. The next step is to organise the list into order then expand the topics. If this is done effectively it will allow us all to spot the weaknesses in the NWO plan.


while an admirable attempt at listing what needs to be taken control of in order to subvert the NWO plans, it won't be enough until we find out who the true leaders (not the instituted puppets) of these organizations are and they are removed permanently from power. What we need are names and pictures of these leaders and subvert them. If they are not removed or subverted, they will simply grown another tentacle and put another puppet in place.


While I agree I am hoping that a thorough attempt at this is going to reveal this to us all and even if it does not if we can see weaknesses that are exploitable then this fact wont really matter.

I have tried to argue my point to this post as the general consenseus as I did state at the start is that of defeat.

I do not know why but I can almost guarantee this is going to work but it is not a short process. I wish I could say do this and this will come but I tihnk that if we all contribute to this in an organised way we can crack it.

Another fact I clearly want to state for anyone even thinking about killing etc this is not the way forward. If I find at the end of the puzzle that this is the answer then I will know it is wrong.

I do not know if I have not explained what I am trying to do here effectively enough or have I?

If you do not understand please ask as I still see a lot of things that are defeatist. If you feel that way contribute as it will benefit this but only if its constructive.

I am not all knowing so I need people to help me with this and I think it will be a positive outcome if not the end of this cesspit thats plauged us for too long. Do I need to spell it out even more?? You guys are smart so think about this.

I am tired of feeling defeated and so should you.



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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:22 PM
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Here is an updated list of the power points as I said I will try and update this often so that new posters dont have to trek backwards if they do not want to. I have included things that I feel are relevant from the additional posts if you feel I have not added something that you feel should be on this list tell me why. Please bear in mind this is in no particular order and is a basic list yet to be expanded.

Media control

Taxes

Think tanks

Laws

Banking Stucture

Education

Government secrecy

Politicians

Secret Societies

Family bloodlines

Control of Technology

Surveillance

Propoganda

War games

Control of life essentials

Weapons control

Information control

Control of sustenance

Advertisements

Social conditioning

Political correctness

Citizen Databases

Religion

Military Control

Corporate dominance

Enviromentalist agenda

Control of Regulations in all industries

Control of fuel supplies

Suppresion of new energy sources

Networking groups

Hidden puppet masters (could not think of better label)

telecommunications Control

I am looking at all comments here and I will add the additional information once we have all the areas of power to expand. This list might obviously need condensing but I still think it will grow as the NWO have a lot to think of before they complete this plan.

Thanks for the replies and I will follow this through to the end as much as possible.

As always new input is welcome.

Cheers



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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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You can't bargain with God or the Devil. I think it is up to each individual to live their truth in this corrupt world. The whole earth needs purging. I only see this occuring when the true God reclaims the earth and gives the devil the boot.

People have been deceived. The aliens are the rulers of darkness of this world and they are not human although they may look it which is part of the deception. They can not dominate if you see them for who they truly are, but, they can make life miserable. Deciding to no longer be a victim, or be used is enough to cause them alarm.

It is an ongoing battle between human (son of man) and alien (children of the devil).

They are all around and no one can be trusted.

The NWO will rule by demonic forces implanted into people. I think all the experiments like MKUltra were in preparation for their final takeover (God forbid), and they are gearing up for their final scenarios and situation "X".

People have slept for too long which has allowed them free reign.


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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:40 PM
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If this is true then what harm will be done trying to make the job easier for GOD?

I am not going to state my beliefs here as this will derail the topic but what harm is there in trying to rid the world of evil?

If people have slept to long what is wrong with awakening them now, it is better to have opened you eyes now than never.

You are also dipping into symbology etc which is something I intend to cover later on in this topic through different threads.

Thanks for the reply



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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:47 PM
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trying to make the job easier for GOD



... do you know what the above statement implies.

It may be that you have misunderstood what I wrote.

The main weakness of the NWO is that they can't fool all the people.


If people have slept to long what is wrong with awakening them now, it is better to have opened you eyes now than never.


There is no harm in learning the truth, however, very few live the truth.

For some of us it has been a lifelong battle and we are still fumbling. The depth of the truth goes very deep and believe it or not, most people are not equipped to handle it. What you are talking about is fighting unseen forces.

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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:51 PM
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I never took it as harm sorry if it looked that way but I am insistent on doing this and want as many people as possible to contribute no matter how silly someone elses views may appear to other members.

This is why it is really important to stick to the subject as I fear this could easily turn into a slugging match from threads I have viewed in the past.

This is an enemy that many have posted about before as everyone knows but I am determined to create threads that solve this and all the information is needed in a structured way without scaring off people if that makes sense.

I do not actually think that we are done just yet and I hope to expand on this until an answer is defined to share with everyone else.

Of course we will always have people that do not believe or agree with our own views and beliefs but the NWO does not rely on everyone agreeing with each other so it should not matter on the wider scale of how this progress to solving the problem.



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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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It was and is not my intent to derail.

Just another quick note: It is in everything and everywhere.

Another weakness is that they are dependent upon TV to brainwash and with advances in technology they can watch you watch them.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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A total dollar collapse would follow if a majority of americans withdraw all their money from the bank system and invested in gold instead. Its a sound idea anyhow since the dollar most probably will collapse (inflation) after the bailout money has made its first or second run through out the economy.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:17 PM
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People feel defeated because they are overwhelmed,who would think that one day we would wake up one morning and be starring Socialism in the face with a threat of a civilian security force in the works.Eventually this to will pass and all willstep up to the plate and defend there freedom,Americans always have.

All of these things you want to remove from our society have been here for quit awhile and people like your self have been getting wise to it for awhile also,now they(who ever "they"are)have installed a "sargent at arms"if you will to quell the up and comeing leaders of the rebellion that have figured out how badly we as Americans are being shafted.Look at how in your face all this economy fixing has been with our Tax money,have you all forgotten that these people in government work for us.They can be Recalled and impeached,try doing this to one of the worst of the bunch and see how much support you get.

The one thing I worry about (this is a conspiracy site)is that a thread like this,( started in purely good intentions)be used to pullout the ones that really mean to do something about changeing how things are going to get. The one thing I notice is that the majority of posters to this thread are new to ATS,when I don't see older posters I get a little worried.I'm sure I am wrong but when you talk the way some do here(with blind passion)you wonder if there isian't someone takeing it all down,It has been suggested many times before on ATS.

The only real suggestion I would have at this point is sometimes you have to become the monster to beat the monster and that normaly takes someone expendable.Again Good Luck


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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:20 PM
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Hey

So we meet again XXXN3O , in yet another thread to trow of the chains of those who enslaved us since the dawn of man.

I find this an excellent idea to put up a list summing up their "weapons of choice" here 1 to add with some explanation on it :

Control of human habits

meaning controlling how the public feels on certain habits .
Like with the recent ban on smoking, as a smoker i felt first hand how the reaction from society changed when lighting a cigarette. so if they can change the way society looks at something that "integrated" around the world . Imagine what other things they could be influencing on a more subtle way. Another example is the alcohol/marijuana issue . Its globally known that alcohol has killed a lot of things from people to marriages and all the things we cant even start to grasp. Yet its widely accepted??? To my knowledge marijuana has been in use for centuries maybe even thousands of years to widening the perspective, yet its illegal why??? cause they don't want us to question their decisions to much ......

Thumbs up to the OP for yet another nice idea



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:39 PM
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u have already lost. the battle was over before it even started. the NWO has won, just accept their ways and BE HAPPY.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:41 PM
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People feel defeated because they are overwhelmed,who would think that one day we would wake up one morning and be starring Socialism in the face with a threat of a civilian security force in the works.Eventually this to will pass and all willstep up to the plate and defend there freedom,Americans always have.


I hope you are correct here as times are different right now in many different ways. I am not American just to state.



All of these things you want to remove from our society have been here for quit awhile and people like your self have been getting wise to it for awhile also,now they(who ever "they"are)have installed a "sargent at arms"if you will to quell the up and comeing leaders of the rebellion that have figured out how badly we as Americans are being shafted.Look at how in your face all this economy fixing has been with our Tax money,have you all forgotten that these people in government work for us.They can be Recalled and impeached,try doing this to one of the worst of the bunch and see how much support you get.


Where did you get this info from?



The one thing I worry about (this is a conspiracy site)is that a thread like this,( started in purely good intentions)be used to pullout the ones that really mean to do something about changeing how things are going to get. The one thing I notice is that the majority of posters to this thread are new to ATS,when I don't see older posters I get a little worried.I'm sure I am wrong but when you talk the way some do here(with blind passion)you wonder if there isian't someone takeing it all down,It has been suggested many times before on ATS.


You know you seem to be scaremongering here a little. Older posters tend to frequent ATS a little less than new members but there have been many with high points which indicated a high frequency of valid points and posts. This is a site that has many members new and old so this has no basis for your claim here.




The only real suggestion I would have at this point is sometimes you have to become the monster to beat the monster and that normaly takes someone expendable.


I know you meant your post in good intentions but it is still very dismissive but nevertheless everyone is entitled to an opinion and you do have some points of course.

Is it really that bad to understand a topic fully and to share and invite contributions?

Does the phrase Deny Ignorance not ring a bell here?

If I am about to get a rude awakening here it cant be much worse that what I have already dealt with in my personal life some of which I have listed in the past on this site.



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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Spartannic
Hey

So we meet again XXXN3O , in yet another thread to trow of the chains of those who enslaved us since the dawn of man.

I find this an excellent idea to put up a list summing up their "weapons of choice" here 1 to add with some explanation on it :

Control of human habits

meaning controlling how the public feels on certain habits .
Like with the recent ban on smoking, as a smoker i felt first hand how the reaction from society changed when lighting a cigarette. so if they can change the way society looks at something that "integrated" around the world . Imagine what other things they could be influencing on a more subtle way. Another example is the alcohol/marijuana issue . Its globally known that alcohol has killed a lot of things from people to marriages and all the things we cant even start to grasp. Yet its widely accepted??? To my knowledge marijuana has been in use for centuries maybe even thousands of years to widening the perspective, yet its illegal why??? cause they don't want us to question their decisions to much ......

Thumbs up to the OP for yet another nice idea


Hows it going, we meet again...

I hoped to point this out through Social Conditioning as suggested by Cythraul in the first page of this thread.

Control of substances is something that has not been added yet though?

I only know of cigarettes and alcohol but it does seem a big loophole upon reading of the drugs trade with certain people inolved to say the least.

I will add this to the points of power list.

Cheers




posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 06:02 PM
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We will never stop the elites, they feed off our existence, vice versa. THEY need us, we need them - for the moment.

If you look at reality...

We need them because they created our society, our jobs and money.

BUT they need us, for we are the way in which they reach their goals. Our blood sweat and tears created all those companies, weapons and most of all their money, which they give a fraction of that as your pay and the CEO who killed people to get the job is literally making 300 times more.

We will always have war, human suffrage and starvation if a PROFIT based society is the one in which we live.

-xion329alpha



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 06:12 PM
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The quickest way to change the 'system' is through educating the masses. Making copies and passing around the Zeitgeist addendum is a great idea. There is much covered in the film that would benefit everyone involved for the information/insight provided in the film. Regardless of one's religious affiliation; the information found within is priceless.

We are headed for a Depression in 2009. There is no way of avoiding this. There is much more debt inherent in the system than most realize. The world's markets were designed to fail by the International bankster cartel controlled NWO folk. Their families have been working on this since 1743. The best thing you can do for yourselves is to be prepared.

What to do now:

Become as self sufficient as possible.
Avoid/rid yourself of all debt.
Keep checking account only for paying bills only.
Deal only with small financially sound banks...if you can find them. Avoid the the international bankster run banks and brokerage houses such as JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Bank of America, Bank of Boston, Chase Manhatten, Bank of New York, PNC.

Invest in gold/silver bullion and keep in a well hidden and private safe. Do not trust the banks to hold your valuables in a safe deposit box. See my thread on this listed on my profile link for info on this one.

Buy a hunting rifle and lots of ammunition for protection and for hunting. Owning a pistol is vital as well for close quarters defense.

BUY LAND (at least 10 acres) to grow your own fruits, vegetables and raise your own animals for meat. 10 acres is necessary to support a family and to barter your surplus. Make sure your land has fresh potable drinking water. If not available then make sure your land has fresh water available via well. Learn how to preserve, jar and store food for the winter or lean times. If you lack cash for land, attempt to get your family members to pitch in for a 'family parcel' of land with all members' names on the Title/Deed.

Build your own house with materials on your land. Use foreign labor/skills for this. People of Central and South American origin have much knowledge in this area and are not too expensive. Perhaps include one of these people to join your family on your land project.

You will not recognize the world in 2009. This I can promise you. It will be MUCH worse than the Depression of 1929 especially since the debts are much, much greater and the people lack farming skills as well as survival skills. There are many, many Trillions of losses that will be revealed within the next few months. I don't even want to post them here. The NWO folks, controlled by the International bankster cartel 'class' have ensured this world economy of collapsing. They have been working on this for quite some time and are very close to acheiving their 'agenda'.

Threads of this nature have been attempted before, only to disappear among the thousands of other threads. Encourage the site owner to create a category on this site such as "Ideas to change the World" or something to that affect.

Good luck and spread the word to all you care about.



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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 06:15 PM
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Threads of this nature have been attempted before, only to disappear among the thousands of other threads. Encourage the site owner to create a category on this site such as "Ideas to change the World" or something to that affect.


mmmmmm

I see a pattern here.

Ok show me then and if it mirrors this thread I will accept it. Then what?



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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 06:24 PM
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Sticking to the topic however

Feel free to add anymore power points to this list and I will cover them tomorrow as I am signing off.

Thanks for the replies so far guys

Cheers




posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 06:32 PM
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NWO about to be announced.
Time is fleeting fast:

NWO announcement



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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 06:33 PM
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I think this list is much too long, and I don't think you could ever possibly count all the ways that the NWO tries to control us since it is growing every day. You really only need one word to sum up this entire list and that word is one of the hardest things anyone can overcome and that word that is the root of all the controlling methods of the NWO is...
FEAR.
Once you can overcome being controlled by fear (if it is possible) then the NWO will have no power because that is how their system operates. They rely on it for everything they do. And that is why people hand their pitiful lives over to them. It's all because of that one little word. No more is needed.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 06:40 PM
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I Thought you an American talking about the problems we face in America and ways to give control back to the people,my bad!

"Where did I get this info" I would think to be common knowledge in America,sometimes I post not reilizing that this is a international website,my bad again.

No scaremongering here,just a little info that I have learned from reading some of the older poster threads.Maybe you ought to concider some ignorance denying.

To understand a topic you need to understand the poster a little and I admit I blew it here.You have a nice day.






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