9/11: Attack On The Pentagon Now Public on Google

reply to post by pinch


Then there are the suckers who believe in everything our Government tell them!
These people do not question our Government they are cowards.
These people give up their freedom for security (these cowards do not deserve freedom.)
You have the right to your own opinion but do not criticize other who do not believe in our lying Government.

Originally posted by jthomas
How long does your script tell you to pretend anyone needs serial numbers to know that AA77 hit the Pentagon.

jthomas, please show me where the alleged wreckage has been formally identified as belonging to the alleged Flight AA77.

Thanks.

reply to post by jthomas


that's not what i said at all. you are doing exactly what you just accused someone else of, ie. not reading carefully what i wrote and then misrepresenting my meaning.

i hereby ban you from my presence.

it's good to be the king.

*ignore*

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by jthomas
How long does your script tell you to pretend anyone needs serial numbers to know that AA77 hit the Pentagon.

jthomas, please show me where the alleged wreckage has been formally identified as belonging to the alleged Flight AA77.

Thanks.

Shifting the burden of proof has never helped your cause. You're required to refute all of the massive independent evidence that AA77 hit the Pentagon.

You've had seven years to do it.

We're still waiting for you to so - and for you to admit that one does not need serial numbers of the wreckage to know that AA77 hit the Pentagon.

Get to it, tezzajw. We're tired of your evasions.

Originally posted by billybob
reply to post by jthomas

 

that's not what i said at all. you are doing exactly what you just accused someone else of, ie. not reading carefully what i wrote and then misrepresenting my meaning.

But you know I'm right, which is why you are running away.

Originally posted by jthomas
Shifting the burden of proof has never helped your cause.

You claim that Flight AA77 hit the Pentagon, jthomas. It's your burden to prove, not mine. I freely admit that something happened at the Pentagon. I wish that someone could prove it to me.

So, how about that alleged wreckage being formally identified? You're not even going to try? Why not?

Originally posted by jthomas

Originally posted by saturnsrings
reply to post by ashamedamerican

 

Excellent post ashamedamerican.


I always marvel at 9/11 Deniers' lack of reading comprehension skills. If you actually tried to understand what I wrote, I was quite clear in stating that one does not need ANY video to know that AA77 hit the Pentagon.

Here are your own words genius. You state that "one does not need ANY video to know that AA77 hit the pentagon"

You keep evading my asking for the video proof, because you know you can not provide it, claiming it's not needed.

Your reading and comprehension skills are lacking to say the least.

I want video proof that a 757 hit the pentagon. Can you provide it or not?

Not some lame 5 frame shot of something hitting the pentagon, I want independent video proof. What part of that don't you get?

You and a few others here are the brainwashed ones, that claim we, truthers are not critical thinkers. I ain't a rocket scientist, but common sense, something some here lack, tells me we are being lied to. Frankly, I'm tired of it and you.

Show me the video proof, that you say isn't needed to know that AA77 hit the pentagon, or explain your belief that, that very video isn't necessary. I don't want to read that the official 9/11 report proves it. Even they admit they were set up to fail.

I'm just asking questions, and want proof, those are things you can not provide. You have "faith" that AA77 hit the pentagon, I do not.

Have a great day.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by jthomas
Shifting the burden of proof has never helped your cause.

You claim that Flight AA77 hit the Pentagon, jthomas. It's your burden to prove, not mine.

The massive evidence exists that AA77 hit the Pentagon. You haven't refuted it. I have nothing to prove. If you don't accept the evidence, then it's entirely your problem to solve.

Nobody is going to do your homework for you.

I freely admit that something happened at the Pentagon. I wish that someone could prove it to me.

You'll just go around in circles claiming there is no evidence that AA77 hit the Pentagon. Under those circumstances, you'll never accept any evidence since you do not wish to.

So, how about that alleged wreckage being formally identified? You're not even going to try? Why not?

First, you don't have any knowledge whether serial numbers were recorded or not.

Second: you have yet to demonstrate why anyone in the entire world would need serial numbers to know that AA77 hit the Pentagon. Cat got your tongue?

Third: You haven't presented any evidence that refutes the massive evidence from thousands of independent sources that AA77 hit the Pentagon, and all of your 9/11 Deniers are willing to.

It's as simple as that.

Originally posted by saturnsrings

Here are your own words genius. You state that "one does not need ANY video to know that AA77 hit the pentagon"

Correct. That's more than obvious. You haven't demonstrated why one would need video to know that AA77 hit the Pentagon. Why not?

You keep evading my asking for the video proof, because you know you can not provide it, claiming it's not needed.

Neither can I provide it, it's irrelevant whether it exists or not. In any case you haven't addressed this: www.flight77.info...

I want video proof that a 757 hit the pentagon.

So what?

Can you provide it or not?

Of course not. But, as you know, video is irrelevant anyway.

Not some lame 5 frame shot of something hitting the pentagon, I want independent video proof.

So what?

What part of that don't you get?

What part don't you get that one does not need any video to know that AA77 hit the Pentagon. Why can't you even articulate why you need it?

You and a few others here are the brainwashed ones, that claim we, truthers are not critical thinkers.

Than why do you believe what your leaders in the truth Movement told you instead of thinking critically?

I ain't a rocket scientist, but common sense, something some here lack, tells me we are being lied to. Frankly, I'm tired of it and you.

By whom? You are brainwashed into believing that there is no massive, independent evidence that AA77 hit the Pentagon. You believe ALL there is is some "story" and everything we know came from the "government." Let me tell you, NO critical thinkers let themselves be led into believing illogical nonsense like you're claiming here.

Show me the video proof, that you say isn't needed to know that AA77 hit the pentagon, or explain your belief that, that very video isn't necessary.

As I have stated over and over, we have ALL of the evidence from multiple, independent sources that corroborates each other and converges on the conclusion that AA77 hit the Pentagon. Whether or not videos EXIST that shows AA77 hitting the Pentagon is irrelevant to knowing whether or not AA77 hit the Pentagon.

You have yet to give us any rational explanation why you dismiss all the evidence that AA77 hit the Pentagon. But, then again, that's what your leaders are counting on - never questionning what they tell you.

So, are you going to explain why you "need" a video, or run away?

Originally posted by cashlink
reply to post by pinch

 

Then there are the suckers who believe in everything our Government tell them!

Are you going to tell us what the "government" had to do with 9/11 or are we going to have to wait another seven years before you give us any evidence that it did?

reply to post by jthomas


No, he will not tell you, because, he does not know, and he does not care. That is not what he is in this thread for anyway.
If you ask me, I would not give him the time of day; you will not get to the truth with people who cannot comprehend logic, or critical thinking, especially when it comes to reading and understanding the truth about 911. When the truth is seen in their eyes, the rage of blindness takes over them visually, and mentally. Which is called denial?

posted by saturnsrings
I love that jthomas doesn't think that releasing video of the alleged 757 at the pentagon would prove anything. To the contrary, it would prove the governments theory true, that he/she can't see that is confounding at the very least.

Again, 1 unedited video of a 757 hitting the pentagon will do it for me. I'll then come on here and apologize to jthomas and all the other debunkers here. If there is 1 video there has to be dozens, show us the definitive proof.

The Pilots for 9/11 Truth video 9/11: Attack On The Pentagon posted on this thread is well worth viewing. It may open your eyes.

As you both probably already realize, jthomas is a very well trained disinformation specialist. He often makes up disinformation threads and even continues to push his deliberate lies, even when his lie has been disproven and his thread is dead. Note that he never admits to anything, never provides the evidence he brags about, never approves of anything which would improve the government position such as releasing the 85+ confiscated and censored Pentagon area videos. It would appear that jthomas has access to these videos and other evidence and knows exactly what the Bush Regime has and does not have.

You will never receive an unedited video. That event is just not possible. The videos they did release were all edited. Editing of the FBI confiscated videos is necessary to hide what is going on in the background. Successfully editing the backgrounds in order to fool the American public would be too difficult. By now it should be self-evident to all open-minded persons in the world from the reactions of the Bush Regime government and their retinue of defenders and apologists and faithful believers, that their supply of evidence will never become stronger, and will always continue to evaporate until it is completely gone. They daily grow weaker as the evidence against them grows stronger. They wish to only delay the inevitable; their scrawny necks in a noose.

However we did receive a new video from the FAA. This was not one of the FBI confiscated and censored videos from the Pentagon area. They dare not release one of those because of what the public would see occuring in the background and on the roads and lawn. This is a FAA confirmation of the decoy aircraft flight path Over the Naval Annex and North of the Citgo. Thank you FAA.

1 AWA 714 pentagon_more2.mpg (mpg file, 12 mb)
Download the FAA original animation - right-click and save to hard drive

Originally posted by SPreston

The Pilots for 9/11 Truth video 9/11: Attack On The Pentagon posted on this thread is well worth viewing. It may open your eyes.

The facts speak for themselves. The CIT - Pilots for 9/11 Truth fairy tale is over.

The Pilots for 9/11 Truth video 9/11: Attack On The Pentagon posted on this thread is well worth viewing. It may open your eyes.

posted by jthomas
The facts speak for themselves. The CIT - Pilots for 9/11 Truth fairy tale is over.

Thank you jthomas. It is wonderful that you would direct interested visitors to the Above Top Secret 9/11 Conspiracies Forums towards the new Pilots For 9/11 Truth video. You are quite correct; it is well worth viewing and may open their eyes.

Thank you again jthomas.

Originally posted by SPreston

The Pilots for 9/11 Truth video 9/11: Attack On The Pentagon posted on this thread is well worth viewing. It may open your eyes.

posted by jthomas
The facts speak for themselves. The CIT - Pilots for 9/11 Truth fairy tale is over.

Thank you jthomas.

Let me help you some more, SPreston:

The failure of the Citizen's Investigation Team (CIT) and Pilots for 9/11 Truth (P4T) to refute the massive and overwhelming evidence that AA77, a Boeing 757, hit the Pentagon in a deliberate crash on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 should be a surprise to no one.

The characteristic political or religious motivations all denial groups like the 9/11 Denial Movement, of which CIT and P4T are the most extreme examples, are always the same. Comparisons with similar groups like Creationists and Holocaust Deniers reveal the irrational, unscientific claims, premises, and methodology used to foist nonsense on the public at large.

Fortunately, 99.9% of the world is rational enough to see through the deliberate misrepesentations, falsehoods, and outright lies of groups like CIT and P4T, and that they start backwards in their claims. When asked to support their claims and present evidence that would have to exist for thier claims to be even remotely valid, CIT has refused to do so for over two years.

Now that both CIT and P4T have been given ample time to present the necessary evidence but refuse to, and that both CIT and P4T have been caught red-handed in easy demonstrations that neither group or their handful of lackeys can possibly demonstrate AA77 or any mysterious "white" plane flew over the Pentagon, it's time to dump both groups into the trashbin of history.

The evidence that AA77 hit the Pentagon is overwhelming and never refuted:


Missing AA77, a Boeing 757:
www.airliners.net...


Confirmed AA77 Flight Path, and geographic area of a 2-mile radius from Pentagon from which a "flyover" would have been visible at the instant a plane would have been over the Pentagon
i360.photobucket.com...


Verified Pentagon crash eyewitnesses
wtc7lies.googlepages.com...


Interior damage path and location of human remains inside of the Pentagon consistent with direction of flight and kinetic energy the confirmed Boeing 757, flight AA77:
wtc7lies.googlepages.com...

Wreckage:
rense.com...


Emergency Response, Rescue Operations, Firefighting, Secondary Explosions

Conspiracists are afraid to have their fantasies destroyed, so they scrupulously avoid contacting the hundreds of Pentagon 9/11 first responders and the over 8,000 people who worked on rescue, recovery, evidence collection, building stabilization, and security in the days after 9/11. These are just some of the organizations whose members worked on the scene:
wtc7lies.googlepages.com...


The Pentagon Building Peformance Report:
fire.nist.gov...

Methodology of identifying human remains at the Pentagon:
web.archive.org...://ndms.chepinc.org/data/files/3/266.pdf


Comprehensive resources detailing the crash of AA77, a Boeing 757, into the Pentagon on 09/11/2001:
wtc7lies.googlepages.com...


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"The mistaken belief that a handful of unexplained anomalies can undermine a well-established theory lies at the heart of all conspiratorial thinking (as well as creationism, Holocaust denial and the various crank theories of physics). All the "evidence" for a 9/11 conspiracy falls under the rubric of this fallacy. Such notions are easily refuted by noting that scientific theories are not built on single facts alone but on a convergence of evidence assembled from multiple lines of inquiry."

- Michael Shermer, "Fahrenheit 2777: 9/11 has generated the mother of all conspiracy theories",
www.sciam.com...