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At the same time as making clear creationism is not accepted by the scientific community,
Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
So then by this logic we need churches to also start preaching evolution. You know, so they can have both sides of the "argument" and decide for themselves!
This doesn't even make sense. You know what, I would actually be fine with an elective theology class. Talk about creationism there. But creationism has absolutely no, zero, zip, scientific merit and cannot be taught as such. Ridiculous.
Originally posted by paperplanes
It will be a beautiful day when nonbelievers finally stop giving into this "respect" rubbish. Despite what the majority tell you, all beliefs are NOT equally deserving of respect and reverence any more than they are equally plausible. So we should not "see creationism as a 'misconception' but as a 'world view'" and "convey a message of respect that does not 'denigrate or ridicule' the children's beliefs," eh? So, in essence, we are to tell children that their creation story is a perfectly reasonable explanation for the origins of our universe--a "world view," as Mr. Reiss would have it. There is a very neat, simple answer to this: we ought to maintain scientific curriculum according to scientific standards. Is that such a crazy idea? That science class should teach ideas accepted by the scientific community rather than any particular religion's creation story? If you want children instructed on creation myths, do so within a humanities class.
I am reminded of a quote by Geoff Mather: "To say that atheism requires faith is as dim-witted as saying that disbelief in pixies or leprechauns takes faith. Even if Einstein himself told me there was an elf on my shoulder, I would still ask for proof and I wouldn’t be wrong to ask." We as a global populace ought to be questioning these creation stories rather than impotently bowing before the all-mighty Church, though I will grant you that a child's classroom is not the place to do it. Hopefully the discussion within the adult sphere will result in our abolishing the idea of incorporating these stories into our children's science classes.
Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
You know what, I would actually be fine with an elective theology class. Talk about creationism there. But creationism has absolutely no, zero, zip, scientific merit and cannot be taught as such. Ridiculous.
Originally posted by noobfun
Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
in the UK we have religeous education its part of the standard syllabus
and in this class everyone is taught about the larger religeons
judaism islam christianity buddhism and hinduism was what was taught when i was st school not sure now what religeons are taught but its still a healthy mix im sure
[edit on 12/9/08 by noobfun]
Originally posted by C.C.Benjamin
I...think...I'm...going...to...hemorrage.
I proudly enjoyed a full UK education, right up to university level. It was secular, scientific and very, very enlightening. I'd hate for children these days to be deprived of such a wonder.
Rather than dismissing creationism as a "misconception", he says it should be seen as a cultural "world view".
Teachers should take the time to explain why creationism had no scientific basis, Prof Reiss said.
He stressed that the topic should not be taught as science.
source
Originally posted by Astyanax
It was clearly stated, by the gentleman who made this proposal, that he was suggesting creationism not be taught in science class, but in some other class, as a kind of alternate point of view.
Rather than dismissing creationism as a "misconception", he says it should be seen as a cultural "world view".
Teachers should take the time to explain why creationism had no scientific basis, Prof Reiss said.
He stressed that the topic should not be taught as science.
source
"However, when young people ask questions about creationism in science classes, teachers need to be able to explain to them why evolution and the Big Bang are scientific theories but they should also take the time to explain how science works and why creationism has no scientific basis.
This was challenged by Simon Underdown, senior lecturer in the department of anthropology at Oxford Brookes University.
Creationism should be taught within the context of religion rather than science, said Dr Underdown.
"It is not something that fits within the mainstream of science."
With so much to be crammed into science lessons, it was not a worthwhile use of time to include lessons about creationism, he argued.