Alien Interview written by Lawrence R. Spencer.

‘ALIEN INTERVIEW’ by Lawrence Spencer
Unfortunately, this book is a hoax. This is definitive.
Lawrence Spencer is careful (presumably for legal reasons) to
offer the written disclaimer that Alien Interview should be
regarded as a work of fiction, but it does the UFO community
(and the Scientology community - see below) no favors when
Spencer maintained on subsequent radio talk shows, some with
sizeable audiences, that the purported "interview" really
happened. It did not.
Conveniently, the claimed source, "Matilda MacElroy" is
"deceased" - and Spencer "destroyed all the original
documentation". So we'll just have to take his word for it... and
his word, publicly stated, is that he is portraying real events.
Sadly, his word is not very honorable, and he is lying. I don't
often deploy that unpleasant word, but here its use is accurate
and fair.
Any Scientologist with any experience (and I am one) will
instantly recognize the very large number of terms and concepts
directly borrowed from (and sourced by) L. Ron Hubbard.
These are literally too numerous to list, starting right at the start
with "doll bodies", "what's true is what's true for you", "If you
were looking for Hell, the Earth would suffice", liberal use of the
term "Space Opera", the concept that the Earth is a prison planet,
and much, much, much else. Find any friendly Scientologist and
they will be pleased and intrigued to go through the book line by
line with you. There's a smoking gun on almost every page.
Spencer has maybe made an unfortunate judgment, and written
an interesting work of fiction (and don't get me wrong here:
many of the metaphysical concepts, formulated by Hubbard, may
be valuable and have a great deal of truth to them) - but has
then fallen into the trap of using his idea of journalistic license to
portray the concepts in the framework of a "true story".
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This does not help genuine UFO research one iota, and further
confuses the complex Roswell issue - in which real, elderly
witnesses, with great courage at the end of their lives, have come
forward to tell their very real stories. Spencer discredits and
dishonors these fine people by what he has done. This is my
issue.
Almost as an afternote: there are many other problems with the
book - many of which are already cited by other reviewers. Use of
the terms "carbon dating", "computer", "database", "alien" (the
Roswell survivor was called an EBE, or Extraterrestrial Biological
Entity), MacElroy being a "Senior Master Sergeant" - and more -
are all anachronisms: the words or terms did not exist in 1947,
and show clearly that this is recent writing. The date stamp is
also wrong: the author uses the English notation of 9.7.1947 for
9 July 1947... a little slip, written by Spencer, who although
American is very familiar with England.
The final nail in the coffin is this e-mail, written by Spencer
himself in 2000:
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From: Lawrence Spencer
Sent: 07 November 2000 02:12
To: Graham Hancock
Subject: Your victory
Dear Graham,
Congratulations to you and Robert on your victory regarding
the BBC attack! Well Done! I commend you on your courage
and persistence.
I am the author of "The Oz Factors" (I sent both yourself and
Robert a copy of my book last spring), so I certainly do have
some first hand knowledge how the mainstream academic
vested interests operate to suppress the truth. My book
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discusses this subject as one of the 12 "Oz Factors" which
prevent our civilization from discovering answers to the
mysteries of our existence.
I have been a Scientologist for 31 years. A good deal of my
book is an application of the principles of L. Ron Hubbard as
regards the fields of study into which you and Robert have so
bravely advanced. Perhaps the material in my book will be of
assistance to you at some point in your research.
Keep up the good fight!
Very Best Regards,
Lawrence R. Spencer
author of "The Oz Factors"
**********
Read this book as the metaphysically fascinating work of fiction
that it is. Spencer's post-publication behavior, however, elevates
this "fiction" to the level of a dishonorable hoax, for which he
should be ashamed. He could have handled this much, much
better.
I am a UFO researcher myself. If you want the truth, there are
many other places to find it. And if Spencer wants to contact me,
he can through the Project Camelot website which I run with my
colleague Kerry Cassidy. I would be interested to know privately
what possessed him to go so far and to paint himself into such a
corner, from which escape is now almost impossible without him
continuing to deceive his readers.
Bill Ryan
PROJECT CAMELOT
projectcamelot....

So is this the end of the story or just another decietful cover up to hide the truth behind an extrodinary possibility?

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Yeah that is from the link i posted earlier. I really doubt project camelot is interested in covering up anything.

This is not real. Its a work of fiction, besides this information is very suspect. This information doesn't sound like its coming from an advanced culture, I can be sure of that.

Well now on this interview he just does not sound like he is lying, but what do I know?

www.rumormillnewsradio.com...

Perhaps he was influenced into changing his story.

Originally posted by riggs2099

Originally posted by DocEmrick
Though I could Google said interview, the address bar is all the way up there, and I'm a little lazy. A source citation if you would be so kind? Kk thnx.

The story basically says that the planet earth is a dumping ground for aliens and that they desire no contact with us and that they do everything they can to make sure that thier ships are cloaked so that we cannot see them. The only reason they come here is for our resources, which is wierd because of all the so-called millions of planets in thier domain we are the only ones with these things. Oh yeah we are basically meat bags with souls that are considered undesirable to other species in this domain.

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i think that the insignificance of our location in this vast universe meant that yes we are not supposed to be found. in this context i think the matrix seems to be the logical explanations of thing mysterious in our senses.
we tend to protect our "humanity, sanity and superiority" among the species crawling here on this planet, but are we really who we are?
religions and other wordly ideologies seems to be "airbrushing" our realities and it all seems to be designed that way...by "them"...
i think its about time to really try to take a peek what's outside this old box of ours...

If IS-BEs dont have brains then how can you brain wash it??? This is utter Scientology garbage to me.

Originally posted by spinalremain
If IS-BEs dont have brains then how can you brain wash it??? This is utter Scientology garbage to me.

What is not garbage is the Sumerian texts about the solar system and Anunnaki bio-engineering humans.

Please note that Spencer gives this book away for free. He does not charge for it, so the motive of doing this on his part is not financial...

I realize that when something this fantastic comes to the public people shout hoax right off the bat but what if he was compromised by certain factions that do not want this kind of information to go public? Is it possible that there is some truth to this tale? If what we learned from reading the excerpts from the Bees story are at all true it was not an easy feat to translate what it knows into to terms man at that time was able to understand.

I still think that it is possible this could have actually happened. So where do we go with this kind of information if it is?

One thing we can do is to acknowledge our responsibility to help change what has been thrown on us for thousands of years, to open ourselves to a new paradigm where we reclaim our freedoms and open our minds to possibilities which were once unavailable through our ignorance.

Even if this pans out to be completely fraudulent, it does not matter, many tales have been made from the imagination of individuals that eventually came true.

I believe that there is a cosmic nous, a place where all creativity is available to anyone willing to drop the barriers and simply reach up and pull it down, this same force is what drives the creative and courageous to think outside the box, ppl like Einstein and Picasso , Confucius, all were willing to step into the unknown and change the entire paradigm not from what they learned outside themselves but from what they could bring to the table from within.

That is what this story reminds me to do, to simply remember before the vail of ignorance was placed on me, on my ability to live as a free and enterprising person of individuality, a unique being and not some automoton who simply follows the crowds.

One thing that struck as very real, was the part about the electromagnetics in place by the old ones who want to keep me from looking inside, that do all they can to keep people enslaved in their minds rather than the inner temple which is available but not through the outside, it is the ultimate journey, the journey within. But why is it so difficult to simply close ones eyes and breath? Why is our enlightenment so evasive that for thousands of lives people attempt to find the door to unlock the prison which keeps us in the cycle of birth and death?

From everything I have been taught, the truth is that we are already enlightened! And that is the message I get when reading what this entitiy had to say.

It is not a point of changing or doing anything it is to simply move in a sustained direction which helps us to remember.

5000 years before we are ready to make actual contact? Perhaps but time is not linear, so it is still possible that it can happen in this dimension rather than looking at it from the perspective of time.

All it is going to take is for us to wage through the next 100 years and not blow ourselves up or have some horrible nuclear facility accident which kills every living being on the planet.

What this touches on is the scientific grounds of life and death, like the breath, every time you breath in it represents life, when you exhale it is death. From the very first breath to the last. The secret of life is death.

Life is not just an identification of a concept, of your identity, it is a cycle, a chance to know the eternal process, beyond time.

Death is a continuum of life and to get rid of the old conforming structures which keep you enslaved. To die consciously is to begin to truly live, but if you have not lived life in its totality so it is nothing but a change from one house to another, you are not the body.

Go beyond life and death, that is the message from the entity. Life and death are but processes. But there is something within you which is transendent of both.

Originally posted by sphinx551

Originally posted by spinalremain
If IS-BEs dont have brains then how can you brain wash it??? This is utter Scientology garbage to me.

What is not garbage is the Sumerian texts about the solar system and Anunnaki bio-engineering humans.

I would like to know more about your thoughts on teh Annunaki, do have a thread somewhere on the subject? PS I like your avatar!

Originally posted by antar
PS I like your avatar!

Thank you
As for the Anunnaki, they are working behind the scenes to keep Earth a slave and prison planet. That is what I think of them.

Please note that Spencer gives this book away for free. He does not charge for it, so the motive of doing this on his part is not financial...

Correct, it appears to be "spiritually" motivated....i.e. Scientology.

Originally, as I was reading, I was a bit excited and considered for a brief moment to entertain the notion that this was the coroner's missing "Nurse" friend.....

But, when she stated she escorted Cavitt, it all fell apart. Cavitt went to the Brazel site. Most testimony (all really, on that subject) points to the beings recovered from the second crash site where the largest piece of the craft ended up. One live being, the way they used telepathy, integrated with the ship's electrical, etc., is all pretty common Roswell lore...so no real reveal there....

Then, you get into the whole Scientology mythos being spouted here, and with the author a devout member of the "church"...

Nope, have to call BS on this one....still an interesting read...but I'm not swallowing it...

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Then, you get into the whole Scientology mythos being spouted here, and with the author a devout member of the "church"

Im not where you get this person was a scientologist from, kinda sounds like conjecture to me. I think if they were trying to spread anything related to the church it would be labeled as such.
Afterall you do not have christians plagiarizing the bible saying it is something they wrote.

I saw quite a few things in the letter myself, but who knows maybe it is a work of fiction however many truths have been shared through fiction. If there is a group out to make sure we remain ignorant to our true origins, then it would stand to reason that they would do all they could to debunk this story.

I have to admit I am a bit let down after discovering it could be a work of fiction and not the missing gun.

I will keep searching for answers as I have joined the ranks of those who have witnessed first hand something so extraordinary in RL that I cannot deny the alien presence yet it did nothing more than open up the quest for more information as to who they are and why they remain aloof from the GP.

When I witnessed the alien being on Oakcreek, it was doing some kind of work realted to the water, so having accidentally seen this I have to ask if they are here to keep the earth from being destroyed through monitoring, but does that mean our days are numbered and yet life goes on for our planet? Or does it mean that we are indeed prisoners here on earth?

Originally posted by antar
Well now on this interview he just does not sound like he is lying, but what do I know?

www.rumormillnewsradio.com...

Perhaps he was influenced into changing his story.

For those of you familiar with speech pathology, what did you get from his interview? Was he lying or telling the truth?

Edit for c in speech, lol.

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I also was unable to substanciate his connection to scientology.

Alien interview is the biggest load of horse poo ever committed to print! It's like a badly written episode of star trek DS9 "Domian/Dominion it's all BS!"