Photo-Surprise

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The blue dot seems to be shining on the yellow area of the saucer.
If we only knew more of the action going on here.

I heard the lasers must be used for saucer communication.
Radio waves can not penetrate the surrounding ion cloud.

reply to post by Europa733

Hi there,
Couldn't it be just a lens flare or a "hot" pixel ?

Well, i dont think it is a lensflare as you can see the other flares and the refractions of them, and it doesn't have the charecteristics of a hot pixel
But it looks, weird, it looks like other pixels are built over other pixels?
Camera error or something close to the camera which it tried to compensate for?

As i said i am not an expert on this

reply to post by Balez


Hi there,

Don't really know neither but what you said makes sens.

Now, my question is, any of you know a laboratory specialized in image analysis I could contact ? Any idea, because I want to have professionals working on it. Thanks in advance.

to Absence of self :

Would you mind doing a quick resume on what you've found "looking" at this picture and what you think (you can speculate a bit') because some other photographers I 've been talking too told me the "wildest" things ?
Could you also ask your teacher if he thinks X is behind the clock tower or not ? I know what he 'll say...I hope...Thanks a 1000 times

We'll talk about the "wild" aspects later...

Peace,
Europa aka Buckwild




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Europa733, you had brought up a possible correlation between the ghost radar returns and the object or as you call it X. Or it was implied in the video.
The radar returns were at 08:49:21 GMT 188 km/h, 08:49:33 GMT 302 km/h and 08:49:41 GMT 474 km/h, the picture was shot at 08:58:40 GMT so about 9 minutes later than the incident. I doubt they were related.

Also the acceleration shown by the radar returns is not THAT spectacular and in no way comparable to the ones displayed during the interception of the triangular crafts by the belgian airforce back in 1989.

Just my opinion on that aspect.

Originally posted by icblue
Europa733, you had brought up a possible correlation between the ghost radar returns and the object or as you call it X. Or it was implied in the video.
The radar returns were at 08:49:21 GMT 188 km/h, 08:49:33 GMT 302 km/h and 08:49:41 GMT 474 km/h, the picture was shot at 08:58:40 GMT so about 9 minutes later than the incident. I doubt they were related.

Also the acceleration shown by the radar returns is not THAT spectacular and in no way comparable to the ones displayed during the interception of the triangular crafts by the belgian airforce back in 1989.

Just my opinion on that aspect.

Hi,

You are totally right about the correlation, there's none and I've never said once that there was one.

Question is, since both primary radars picked up multiple "fake" returns throughout the morning and including a few minutes before.

This area (I live 45 mn away from Bar Sur Loup) has lots of hills and the Alps are starting right behind this town. Le Bar Sur Loup is almost at the bottom on the first montain in the Alps from the sea. So if X was flying around and in & out the hills, we would probably have multiple "fake" radar returns.

Then, there's also this 20 sec long radar return that could be interesting.
I could verify with primary radar specialists what they think about this and the acceleration aspect as well.

I'll tell you more about Olivier's story as we go on.


Peace,
Europa


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Hi again,

I did take a few pics in the town, very charming.

Looking East :

i263.photobucket.com...

Olivier Lavielle's balcony where the photo was taken :

i263.photobucket.com...

Looking North :

i263.photobucket.com...

The Clock Tower :

i263.photobucket.com...


Well, just to give you a feel of things...

Peace,
Europa


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Back...


Message for UFO ENTHUSIASTS

Before I forget, Le Bar sur Loup is located less than 3 miles away from
Le Col de Vence which is for most Ufologists, France's hot spot for Ufo sightings.

Do a search on google...

Peace,
Europa

[edit on 10-3-2008 by Europa733]

Well, I havemanaged to finally read all the posters replies and conclusions.

I don't think it's a bird, though there are some similar characteristics of those particular bird photo's, the pic. in question has a very shiny and geometrical appeal and look to it. One would say even "Aeronautical" in shape and predicted size being's we have nothing to really compare the object of this photo to. As for reading the posts I did, but for seeing every posted pic. brought into explanation, I have not.

Maybe Internos should have a good hard run at this pic. as for some way of getting some kind of validation towards the UFO theory, he's one of the best here on ATS.

I would bring it into some kind of paint/photoshoppe but it has been shown every way one could present it, as far as a leigh man of photo doctoring , I really wouldn't be able to prove or disprove what it actually is. The one thing I will testify too that it truly is a "Nice UFO Photo" Kudos to the op!!

"Internos, Where are you?" LOL

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Well here on ATS we have one user who is a image analyst JRitzmann

And there is also Bruce Macabee, not sure on how you will find him though.

I was thinking on something, doesn't NASA have a conversion program 2d --> 3d?
That would be cool to get it in 3d

I think it is further away from the tower, perhaps 300-500 meters.
Which also means in that perspective the object also have a higher altitude than what we 'see' in this image.

Since it is (imho) further away and also higher up, we have something on a explanation to the blurredness of the object as it takes on both colour on the background and to some degree it gets this haze look.

Then we have the seccond anomaly (the blue dot), i'm not totaly certain but i am leaning to believe this being a object that is in close proximity to the first one.
Both of these objects, seem to be in close to the blue spectrum of colour.

Anyways i hope you get a explanation on this image, good luck!

reply to post by Balez


Hi there,

And thank you very much.

I'll get in touch with them thru Internos. (Internos is a she you guys and she rocks doesn't she ?)

This is getting more and more exciting to me...


Peace,
Europa

Could be a bird. Could be a UFO. I think it's impossible to be certain from the evidence of a single photo. Nevertheless, many thanks for posting. Interesting stuff.

At least we seem to have got rid of the hardcore chinese-lantern advocates. Hopefully they are contributing to the many bible-orientated threads.

Originally posted by Europa733
reply to post by Balez

 

Hi there,

And thank you very much.

I'll get in touch with them thru Internos. (Internos is a she you guys and she rocks doesn't she ?)

This is getting more and more exciting to me...


Peace,
Europa

Ahem: i would like to point out that internos is a HE, heck!

You can open a thread in Jeff's forum: he's simply the best.
Now, i have to be honest on this one:
even if i put efforts, i'm unable to see something else but what i saw the firs time.
I want to say thanks to Shakesbeer and Absence of Self
for some excellent constructions:
imho, it's really hard to say what it could actually be: it can be outlined a shape, but the shape is barely visible: it seems to be barely visible a wing close to a body of something that is nose diving, that's all that i see.

Hi Internos,

Sorry about that 'bro

Guess what, your first name in my country is a girl's name

Who is guilty, well the extra "e".

I'll follow your advice.

Regarding the bird hypo', most photographers I've been talking to tell me that X is far, well behind the clock tower because there's too much absorbtion, this explains why we got so much blue.

Another thing, carefull with pareidolia...

Well, you guys, I'm gonna start a new topic in Jeff's forum tonight and I'll post the link right here.

Thanks again to all of you, this feels like family.

Peace,
Europa

oops before I forget : Internos, you rock man

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How's it goin' girl?! jk Thank you for your opinion as well, after all good ideas do not happen with out a great dynamic of influences.

This is definitely an interesting picture for sure. I know I didn't think I was going to be leaning towards "saucer" when I first looked at it as I, like most people I'm sure, hates to be disappointed on things like this let a lone be the one "crying wolf" as well. I ended up spending a good amount of time on this image which I do not like doing on "Johnny's school UFO project" or the "Smith's cicada at the chàteau" so this photo definitely had me intrigued.

Probably the biggest question I still have would be; What is up with the cone-shaped shadow? I would be amazed to see that effect duplicated in a diving "bird" or "bug". Especially when you are considering the shutter speed and perceived depth & size of the object relative to the FOV.

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I find this picture intruiging also.

There seems to be alot more to it than meets the eye at first.
I was leaning toward the bird theory.... Then i threw the bird out the window.

Then we have the triangular shaped shadow... I've never seen that before, in any image.

Then we have the 'dot' which i call 'the blue dot' just above the first object.
First i thought it to be a close camera object, but then i thought, it doesn't obscure as much space as it should for being a close object.

I dont think it looks like a 'hot pixel' either.

Could be a very very tiny camera error.

Well, anyways it's certinly interesting

Hi everyone,

There it is, Part 2 : www.abovetopsecret.com...


Peace,
Europa

Are we still filtering the heck out of this bird image? You know, you can filter it all you want, and it's still going to be a bird.

Originally posted by Nohup
Are we still filtering the heck out of this bird image? You know, you can filter it all you want, and it's still going to be a bird.

Hi Nohup,

First you said that 1/400 is a slow shutter speed, now you're saying you can
tell what it is just by using your eyes, Occam's razor and maybe a little
bit of pareidolia on top of it.

Do you think that your arguments are credible and why ?
Why would you use Occam's razor in this case ?

Peace,
Europa


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.....?


Im laughing at my self. So far fetched

It doesn't take a photography expert to see that yet again this is NOT a flying saucer. Welcome to the zoo, this is a bird.