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Dialogue
'the search for extraterrestrial life . . . offers a
meeting ground
not only for physical, biological
and social scientists, but also for
artists,
philosophers, [and] theologians . . . The effort
encourages
people from very different intellectual
traditions to talk to one
another, and may set the
stage for . . . the unification of knowledge.'
However, some Christians have believed (and do
believe) that humans
are the only embodied
creatures in creation to be made in God's
image.
And some atheists love to suggest (it is
rarely argued) that 'if and
when one ever detects evidence of an extraterrestrial intelligence . .
. that
evidence will be inconsistent with the existence of
God or at
least organized religion.'
Likely
It is probable that there is life elsewhere in the universe and that some of that life is intelligent. There is a high mathematical probability that among the trillions of stars in the billions of galaxies there are millions of planets in age and proximity to a star analogous to our Sun. The chances seem very good that on some of those planets life has evolved. It is even highly probable that natural selection governs that evolution (Dawkins). However, it is not inevitable that the results of that evolution would yield intelligence, much less intelligence equal or superior to ours. It is possible that we are unique (Pinker 1997: 150 ff.).
Dilemma
The greys have several ongoing problems:
1.The need to increase their number as quickly as possible.
2.As their population increases, more support facilities are required and must be developed. This diverts needed resources from the effort of obtaining self sufficiency. Also as more excursions are required to obtain the suitable containers, the likelihood that their purpose will be discovered and coordinated native interdiction initiated increases. Also the sheer numbers required to continue the breeding operation mandates that they seek hosts in more densely populated areas.
3.As the local military capabilities become more sophisticated it becomes increasing difficult to maintain covert activities.
4.The master race may arrive and intervene at any time.
5.The governments that are aware of their presence may discover the true purpose of their activity and attempt active intervention.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
I have noticed here at ATS that there is a continuous debate as to whether aliens are good or evil.
The mainstream Christian perspective on this issue is that if alien are existant at all, they are "evil."
While some here at ATS, try to spiritualize the whole issue, I personally think it is a physical issue. I never have bought into the whole idea that aliens are angels or demons.
The mainstream Christian perspective on this issue is that if alien are existant at all, they are "evil."
Originally posted by interestedalways
For instance if *they* have developed a method to remove our geneology or DNA and place it in a safe location there would be a chance for this race of humans to restart somewhere else or even here when the earth was ready to sustain us again.
Originally posted by igor_ats
[Fear. They fear that Aliens might expose them and cast doubt to their religion.
Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
The mainstream Christian perspective on this issue is that if alien are existant at all, they are "evil."
Hmm why do you say that?
In recent years the Vatican has started to admit the existence of extraterrestrials (Monsignor Balducci etc) and they haven't said anything about them being "evil".
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
However, mainstream "Christians," particularly evangelicals, don't view Catholicism as a form of Christianity. I know, it's ridiculous but they don't.
Most or the Christians I have encountered seem to infer to me that if aliens exist, they'd be "evil."
I have noticed here at ATS that there is a continuous debate as to whether aliens are good or evil.
There realy should be an asterisk by the Christian assumption. Most Christians would say, "If there are aliens, they are certainly evil." Really, now? Based on what? Simple. The arrogance of man..
The atheist assumption that aliens would somehow "disprove" God or eradicate religion is so preposterous, I won't even address it.
Our little blue marble has only existed in the universe for about 4.5 billion years. That's not even a blip on the cosmic radar screen.
I suspect that part of their interest in our anatomy stems from our reproductive organs. Now, either these creatures have "evolved" to a state where they no longer have such a system, or there is some sort of genetic defect that is rendering them incapable of having off-spring. Either situation would be plausible reason for them to take active interest in out physical anatomy.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Originally posted by igor_ats
[Fear. They fear that Aliens might expose them and cast doubt to their religion.
Cast doubt on the religion or their interpretation of the religion? You see, I personally think it's more the latter than the former, that's just my take on the issue.
Originally posted by Scramjet76
I don't believe in good and evil and I don't quite understand why so many ATSers do? Everyone has heard the saying "one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist." It's pretty easy to see that the world is built around individual perspectives. The closest you get to "pure" good or evil is in cartoons and movies (aka fiction).
A good theory many UFOlogists have tossed around. The main argument:
If they are so advanced, why do they need us to reproduce at all? I'm still pondering that myself speaker...
So, for example, killing 6 million people in a genocide isn't "Evil", it's "just a matter of perspective"?
I think those kind of abductions are more likely sophisticated psychological-warfare operations (Fear The Evil Aliens!) than real genetic experiments.
Originally posted by Scramjet76
I think those kind of abductions are more likely sophisticated psychological-warfare operations (Fear The Evil Aliens!) than real genetic experiments.
I think you might be right. The question is why do they need to deceive us at all? What are they hiding?