Do you like breathing and drinking Silver Iodide?

The proof begins at the local level in the Colorado Rockies.

This affects everyone, because it is in the water,
and there are programs all over the country.
It is, in my opinion the primary reason for chemtrails.

The Weather Modification Program exists to issue and monitor cloud seeding and other weather modification activities in Colorado. The program is statutorily authorized in Article 20, sections § 36-20-101 through 127. House Bill 06-1313 expands the Weather Modification Program to provide stategrants to water providers to assist in funding ground-based wintertime operational cloud seeding programs. The bill also changed state authorities to accept contributions from other entities that benefit from cloud seeding. Colorado water users developed many new cloud seeding programs in response to the drought that started in the early 2000s. It is anticipated that interest in funding long-term wintertime cloud seeding programs will continue to grow as competition for water supplies increase.
Source

Then, a deep dig, reveals an approved application for seeding and dates, methods, etc.

WESTERN WEATHER CONSULTANTS
APPLICATION FOR A CONTINUOUS WINTER
CLOUD
SEEDING PROJECT FOR THE DENVER
WATER DEPARTMENT PROGRAM

...

DATES OF PROPOSED PROJECT: 11/1/2007 through 4/15/08 and for the next nine winter seasons

...

The expected duration of operations is November 1 through – March 31st each year for a continuous program. Adequate safeguards are in place to limit weather modification operations to the realm of natural
variability including but not limited to: severe conditions monitoring, snowpack thresholds, and avalanche danger.

The CWCB coordinates regularly with permitted projects to ensure that operations are being conducted judiciously
to minimize danger to the land, health, safety, people, property and the environment on behalf of the citizens of Colorado.

...

CLOUD SEEDING IMPACTS?
WATER, SEDIMENT AND TISSUE
STUDIES

•Since the monitored levels are low, usually below the
detection limit in the target watershed, it is unlikely that
continued cloud seeding operations would result in any
significant increase in silver concentrations in the target
watersheds.
• •Silver concentrations were below regulatory standards.
Therefore, continued operations should not result in any
significant chronic effect to sensitive aquatic organisms.
• •There is little to suggest the silver from cloud seeding
gets into the system and bio-accumulates in organisms

..

the Basin States enlist either the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation (Reclamation)
and/or the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration as the lead federal
agency in the development of a coordinated
national research program, and that
this program should piggy-back research
onto existing and proposed operational
programs like
Reclamation's Weather Damage Modification Program;

Much more to read Gov. pdf

Ok, so now the Federal Government steps in to allow this because airspace is regulated by the FAA.

Washington, D.C. – The U.S. Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee today approved S. 517, the Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Act of 2005 by voice vote. The bill is sponsored by Committee Member Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas)

The Committee also adopted a substitute, also offered by Senator Hutchison, by voice vote. The substitute establishes the short title of the bill as the “Weather Modification Research and Development Policy Authorization Act of 2005” and states that the bill’s purpose is to develop a comprehensive national weather modification research policy.

U.S. Senate Committee

They form a committee to allow this, bypassing the American Public scrutiny.

Finally, I will show you with 2 pictures I took over my head yesterday.





[edit on 18-11-2007 by stompk]

Good, I see this info is hitting home.

The injection of LC materials into supercooled clouds causes
strong evaporative cooling reaching −90 as shown in
Fukuta (1988) and the subsequent generation of approximately
1013 ice particles per gram of LC materials by homogeneous
nucleation. The number of artificially formed
ice particles keeps approximately constant after the injection
of LC materials during the ascent of an artificially formed
thermal
Source

The name of the pdf is ERAD 2002. Isn't that lovely? Oh, by the way,
LC stands for Liquid Carbon Dioxide.


[edit on 18-11-2007 by stompk]

And in anticipation to someone saying silver iodide is not harmful

VIII
SPECIAL PROTECTION INFORMATION
Respiratory Protection (Specify Type):
Ventilation: Process enclosure, local exhaust, or general dilution ventilation system.
Respirator: High Levels - High efficiency particulate respirator with a full facepiece. Supplied air respirator with a full facepiece,
helmet or hood. Self-contained breathing apparatus with a full facepiece. Firefighting- Self contained breathing apparatus with a full
facepiece, operated in pressure demand or other positive pressure mode.
Protective Gloves: Are not required but recommended.
Eye Protection: Employee must wear splash-proof or dust-resistant safety goggles to prevent eye contact with this substance.
Clothing: Protective clothing not required. Avoid repeated or prolonged contact with this substance.
Other Protective Equipment: Lab coat and apron

Source

Can I just see a few pictures of the factories, transportation equipment, aircrafts, systems etc to inject millions of 55 gallon drums of chemicals into our air?

All we see are the actual chem trails and nothing of the huge industries that would be required to get all those chem trails in the air.

What kind of gets me with so many conspiracies is when you actually start to map out the infrastructure needed to accomplish these conspiracies and how many people would need to be involved it all starts to look really ridiculous.


Maybe this is why unemployment is below 5%

No, because they are in China.

And England

Alfa Aesar has longstanding experience in producing an extensive range of specialized
We have the capability of producing batch sizes up to 200Kg.
Bulk packing sizes are customized to customer’s requirements noting hazard restrictions.
Many silver compounds are photosensitive. All our specialized silver compounds are
silver compounds manufactured
in our Royston, England plant.
packaged in lightproof containers.
• A certificate of analysis is included with each product.
• Each silver product batch has;
1. Full metallic impurities measured by ICP-MS to ppm.
2. The silver content measured.
• A selection of silver compounds can be manufactured to high purity of 99.999%.
• Most other silver products are manufactured to 99.9% purity as standard.
• Cement and coloring agent in the glass industry
•
• Photographic film industry
• Seed clouds to produce rain
• Antiseptic properties
• Electrode in watch batteries
• Solar energy materials
• Fuel cells
•
Further details and prices for catalog quantities are available in the Alfa Aesar
Source

How much you wanna bet there is the term Royal attached to something in that pdf.

Weather modification is currently carried out in the USA by numerous private companies - who have little regard for the consequences of their activities (how effective they are is another matter)

You, I, of the bloke down the road, can all arrange for it for a price

www.weathermod.com...

www.weathermodification.org...

Do you want the Govt to look into the implications of their actions?

[edit on 18-11-2007 by Essan]

We are thinking more along the lines of a class action suit.

In other than trace amounts, certain metals are toxic to the human system. They tend to accumulate over time, causing adverse effects on health.
Metals such as mercury, aluminum, barium, silver, and lead are to be avoided.

The toxic effects of most metals can be traced to their ability to disrupt the function of essential biological molecules, such as proteins, enzymes and DNA. In some cases this involves displacing chemically related metal ions that are required for important biological functions such as cell growth, division and repair.

www.dartmouth.edu...


Ingesting metals found in 'cloud seeding' operations is obviously to be avoided.

In humans, accidental or intentional ingestion of large doses of silver nitrate has produced corrosive damage of the gastrointestinal tract, abdominal pain, diarrhea, vomiting, shock, convulsions, and death (U.S. EPA, 1985). Respiratory irritation was noted following acute inhalation exposure to silver or silver compounds. Silver nitrate solutions are highly irritating to the skin, mucous membranes, and eyes (Stokinger, 1981).

rais.ornl.gov...
The question is... How?
What controls are in place to ensure that public health is not adversly affected? Are they enforced?
These are questions I'd love to put to the good congressmen.
My guess is, they have no idea.

For example, certain enzymes contain a cysteine amino acid that contains a sulfur atom necessary for its function. Certain toxic metals have a high affinity for sulfur and will bind tightly to the essential cysteine, inhibiting the enzyme from functioning.

One metal may also substitute for another similar metal. For example, the toxic metal, cadmium, can substitute for the essential metal, zinc, in certain proteins that require zinc for their structure or function. This can lead to alterations in that protein that can have toxic consequences. In the same way, lead can substitute for calcium in bone, and in other sites where calcium is required.

www.dartmouth.edu...

Iatrogenic metal toxicity may occur with bismuth, gold, gallium, lithium, and aluminum species...

www.emedicine.com...

For those worried about the enviroment, worry about this.
Individual "sprayings" are bad. But it is the REPEATED "sprayings" that are the real problem, because the metals will accumulate over time.

Nice thread OP.
A star for you my man!

[edit on 18-11-2007 by Alexander the o.k.]

reply to post by Alexander the o.k.

Thanks for that most informative post!

It appears the entire West Coast is heavily involved as well as Texas.

OPTIMIZING CLOUD SEEDING FOR
WATER AND ENERGY IN CALIFORNIA

Cloud seeding is much less expensive than other water augmentation technologies and has large benefit‐to‐cost ratios. Therefore, seeding is an attractive option to help alleviate water supply problems. Population growth in California will cause water demands to regularly outstrip water supplies in the near future, especially during inevitable droughts.

There is evidence that the current period of atmospheric warming and/or air pollution may be decreasing natural snowfall and, therefore, fresh water supplies. Unless steps are taken, these situations will exacerbate conflicts and instigate litigation over those supplies
Source

Israel

Wyoming


and on and on.
Texas

Basically, it's a worldwide event and has been for a long time, with the US in the lead.

With large parts of the American West suffering from severe drought, even as a rising population drains water supplies, many communities have experimented with "cloud seeding," the introduction of artificial nuclei into clouds to spur precipitation. They are not alone. Over the past several decades, more than 40 countries have seeded their clouds. In China, cities bicker over the supposed theft of moisture by upwind neighbors. The king of Thailand owns a proprietary patent on a seeding technique. During the Vietnam War, the United States spent five years and $21.6 million seeding clouds over the Ho Chi Minh Trail in an inconclusive effort to muck up movements of heavy machinery. More recently, municipalities around the United States have used the technique to dissipate fog around airports or to minimize the size of hailstones.
The Modern Rain Dance by the New York Times

Originally posted by Alexander the o.k.

The question is... How?
What controls are in place to ensure that public health is not adversly affected? Are they enforced?
These are questions I'd love to put to the good congressmen.
My guess is, they have no idea.

That's why they want this bill to go through - so they can find out and mitigate any undesireable consequences.

Whether long term operations in Russia and China have any knock on effects elsewhere is another matter. I know that in Australia some folk are concerned about it.

Fortunately it doesn't happen in the UK - we get too much rain as it is


btw is there any evidence that a) the silver iodide used for seeding is dangerous and b) that it is occurring in drinking water in anything like dangerous levels? I agree it;s better there's none at all though.


PS of course, none of this has anything whatsoever to do with persistent contrails (aka chemtrails to the less informed) - which are a concern for very different climatic and environmental reasons

Could the government be sued for this?

Legal Remedies for "Cloud-Seeding" Activities: Nuisance or Trespass?
Duke Law Journal, Vol. 1960, No. 2 (Spring, 1960), pp. 305-309
doi:10.2307/1370980
Source

They landowner won the case, and the remedy was that they wouldn't seed above his land.

Like I said, much of the material is being manufactured in China, and of course they are using it.

-- is all that silver iodide floating around safe? If you make it rain in Iowa, will you cause a drought in Michigan? -- China is embracing it on a scale that far surpasses anything previously attempted. And not just to put snow on ski slopes. China sees weather modification as a key to solving its environmental issues: Artificial rain can water arid crops, fill depleted reservoirs, and halt desertification. And soon they will try to prove it in a very public way. In an audacious forecast, China is calling for sunny and fair skies at the start of its 2008 Olympic opening ceremonies. Guaranteed.

No. 95: Cloud Seeding

[edit on 18-11-2007 by stompk]

reply to post by Essan


Appreciate your input on this. Nice to be working towards a common goal. Human right to good health.

As alarm over global warming spreads, a radical idea is gaining momentum. Forget cuts in greenhouse-gas emissions, some scientists argue. Find a technological fix. Bounce sunlight back into space by pumping reflective nanoparticles into the atmosphere. Launch mirrors into orbit around the earth.

Source

“Mitigation is not happening and is not going to happen,” physicist Lowell Wood declared at the NASA conference. Wood, the star of the gathering, spent four decades at the University of California’s Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, where he served as one of the Pentagon’s chief weapon designers and threat analysts. (He reportedly enjoys the “Dr. Evil” nickname bestowed by his critics.) The time has come, he said, for “an intelligent elimination of undesired heat from the biosphere by technical ways and means,”

Wonder if he means humans as producers of undesired heat.



[edit on 18-11-2007 by stompk]

Jeez, just another attempt by humans to try and "fix" the problems we have created or have no real control over.

I am concerned about the chemicals that we end up ingesting due to these practices, but I am even more concerned that for some reason we think that we can fix the weather. Yes, you will get rain if you seed the clouds, but in turn those clouds will dump their moisture early so that other ares will not get the rain as mother nature intends.

It's like the wildfires, by constantly suppressing the natural fires that clear underbrush in order to protect property, we turn the whole area into a tinderbox making it more likely to burn everything.

It's like introducing more a of certain animal into an area to get rid of "problem" animals. We artificially increase the numbers of a different species which then becomes the problem animal.

We keep upsetting the balance of nature to meet our own needs without regard to the rest of the world. The sad truth is that if we just let nature take over the earth could probably recover, but in doing so we would have to let go of "our" plots of land and houses if they become overun by animals or fire. We can't just stand back and let that happen so we have to try and fix every problem which in turn creates more problems...

Man, talk about a vicious cycle...

I actually have alot of digestions problems, that suddenly started a lil more then 4 yrs ago, this was about half a year after I was honorably discharged from the AF as a f-16 crew cheif.

But what flared up was severe acid reflux, G.e.r.d, Ibs, an my gal bladder had to be removed, all at the ripe age of 27, Im on one med a day to control the acid, but Im constantly creating it, even if I just eat rice, water, and plain diet foods.
and I gag pretty much everyday, from any number of things as if Im extra sensitive now,

and after 4 1/2 years of hospitals, docs, G.I specialists, 9 different meds, and 213,000.00 USD in medical bills, They cant stop me from gaging, and wretching everyday almost, if not straight out gettin sick,

I come from a military family, as well spent about 15 yrs from Aberdeen Proving ground ( under a mile ) and witnessed all their wonderious Weapon testing thru sound and touch lol, sometimes everyday they would fire into their balistics pit.

anywho, im gonna leave things there.

Trance

[edit on 18-11-2007 by Tranceopticalinclined]

reply to post by thebeard


This was going to be my next point. Well said. Let me paraphrase.
Human hubris knows no bounds. We think we can 'fix' the delicate balance of mother nature which has acheived this balance through billions of years.
The ego of scientists who 'think' they know the answer has resulted in more mishaps, human suffering, and complete boondogles than can be named here. (Superbugs, Hiv, gov. 'testing' on the populace, etc. etc.)
Yet here we go again, thinking and tinkering.
What will be outcome of weather modification?
Chemtrails?

Has anyone ever heard of the law of unintended consequences?

"The law of unintended consequences, often cited but rarely defined, is that actions of people—and especially of government—always have effects that are unanticipated or "unintended." Economists and other social scientists have heeded its power for centuries; for just as long, politicians and popular opinion have largely ignored it.
And :
"In the wake of the Exxon Valdez oil spill in 1989, many coastal states enacted laws placing unlimited liability on tanker operators. As a result the Royal Dutch/Shell group, one of the world's biggest oil companies, began hiring independent ships to deliver oil to the United States instead of using its own forty-six-tanker fleet. Oil specialists fretted that other reputable shippers would flee as well, rather than face such unquantifiable risk, leaving the field to fly-by-night tanker operators with leaky ships and iffy insurance. Thus, the probability of spills will increase and the likelihood of collecting damages will decrease as a consequence of the new laws."

www.econlib.org...

Egos gone amuck.
Others pay the price.
Leave us and Nature Alone. Or we may revolt. So will Mother Nature.
Nuff said.





[edit on 18-11-2007 by Alexander the o.k.]

Originally posted by stompk
No, because they are in China.

So Chinese aircraft are flying over US airspace dumping chem trails?

Or the Chinese are selling it to America so we can dump it in our air. If this is the case we would still need the fleet of ships, transportation system, and air craft delivery systems which I have seen nothing of this too. Oh and we would still need 1000s of people working towards this goal.

So what is it? In any case we need an infrastructure that was massive to do this. You might as well get around it all and say the aliens are doing it with technology beyond what we can comprehend as John Lear uses for most of his conspiracies…well at least he handles the logistics of it all.

Originally posted by Tranceopticalinclined
I come from a military family, as well spent about 15 yrs from Aberdeen Proving ground ( under a mile ) and witnessed all their wonderious Weapon testing thru sound and touch lol, sometimes everyday they would fire into their balistics pit.

You never know...back in the early 80s I would wash aircraft parts in very bad chemicals and sit all day as toxic hydraulic fluid dripped in my hair along with JP4. Things we learn as we go through life for back then it was not looked as being a bad thing. Today the guys wear full protective suits.

Do I like drinking "Silver Iodide"? It's a great energy drink and it tastes good.

Seriously, it's not a very toxic substance. Google it up.