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The mod didn't say you were going to hell or that you were going to burn forever. YOU said that.
You're right about many things being mentioned as an abomination in the bible. I could go into a lot of detail about those items as I'm currently writing a book on the subject but I suspect you're not really interested. I suspect (don't KNOW) that you just wanted to take a stab at Christians, some of whom have females that wear jeans and some who eat lobster so that you could say, "I'm gay and you wear jeans, so if I'm going to hell for an abomination then so are you." Very mature.
Originally posted by icybreeze
reply to post by tep200377
ok...i agree with you all those things are facts. i still don't see why Kinglizard got pounced on for stating an opinion. thats all im saying.
Originally posted by jakyll
Do you not feel ashamed to quote that line?
Originally posted by jakyll
Millions have suffered and will continue to suffer because of that line and because of a faith that preaches love and spews out hate!
Originally posted by jakyll
There has been slow progression in the western world concerning the 2nd class citizenship of women,with no thanks to the Bible...
Originally posted by jakyll
As i've shown,there are other abominations,ones that billions have commited.Do you think God will forgive them??
Originally posted by jakyll
You might find the link below interesting.Its one of the books that the Church kept from the Bible.
Originally posted by jakyll
And when Jesus died,so did women's equality.
Originally posted by Rasputin13Meanwhile, there are other religions (Islam) that are STILL stoning homosexuals to death on a daily basis...
The background of Leviticus is important to understand. The people are being told not to act like the "pagans". This is also the format Paul uses in Romans. "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." These words occur solely in the Holiness Code of Leviticus, a ritual manual for Israel's priests. This prohibition of supposedly homosexual acts follows after the prohibition of the idolatrous sexuality of worshipping Molech, whose cult included male cult prostitutes and bestiality. Lev 18 is specifically designed to distinguish the Jews from the pagans who worshipped the multiple gods of fertility cults. It also is included with other Mosaic laws such as required killing kids who curse their parents, the death penalty for picking up sticks or doing other work on the Sabbath, and under the law, slave-beating was a protected legal right!
From a Jewish prospective, the commandments given at Sinai, including those of Leviticus (in Hebrew Jews simply name a book after the first word that appears - "V'yikra" - which means "then he spoke") were given to the Jewish people. Since they were only commanded to Jews, no one who is not Jewish need worry about obeying them. Judaism holds God taught basic laws to all humanity before Sinai (no murder, rape, etc), but that the more specific laws such as in Leviticus, apply only to Jews.
Lev 20:13 is giving the penalties for the Lev 18:22 "abomination" or in the Hebrew "toevah" Unlike what the English translation implies, toevah did not usually signify something intrinsically evil, but something ritually unclean for Jews. Eating pork, shellfish, lobster, eating meat 3 days old, trimming beards, etc is just as much an "abomination". It is used throughout the OT to designate those Jewish sins which involve ethnic contamination or idolatry. In many other OT verses it simply means idolatry. Lev 18 is specifically designed to distinguish the Jews from the pagans among whom they had been living. The prohibition of supposedly homosexual acts follows after the prohibition of idolatrous sexuality of worshipping Molech, whose cult included male cult prostitutes and bestiality.
Chapter 20 begins with a prohibition of sexual idolatry almost identical with this, and like 18, its manifest purpose is to elaborate a system of ritual "cleanliness" whereby the Jews will be distinguished from neighboring peoples. This was also the interpretation given by later Jewish commentaries such as those of Maimonides. Boswell also references much Jewish historic discussion about the non practice of the death penalty which is also mandated for violating the Sabbath, cursing one's parents and many infractions listed in the Talmud.
Originally posted by zysin5
Honestly Im getting to the point where I am hateful to christians becasue all my life all they are is hateful to me
Originally posted by OptionToChoose
the preacher's saying that God loves the sinner, He just hates the sin
the family's cutting ties because one has been found gay
the kids at school have a big problem with it; the folks at work whisper and point
it seems the word "hate" might begin to take on a new vibe
And likely, most of the above listing would be self-declared Christian, if asked.