Juval Aviv Warns of Possible Terrorist Attacks in U.S. Cities Within 90 Days.

Originally posted by dgtempe
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Well, they dont really know in Cuba whats really happening here- chances are they do and dont beleive it. Maybe they think its Castro propaganda and continue coming although, i havent heard of any Cubans rowing themselves silly lately to "touch" land here- maybe i'm wrong.

Oh you are wrong. I have posted news on the breaking news section on Cubans reaching U.S. shores and showing the rowboats many of them have to use. Two cousins of mine came from Cuba some months back.

My grandmother still comes to visit once every 2-3 years when we can get enough money to send for her. Yes, the Cuban government allow really old people to leave, they have to ask for permission, because the Cuban government knows most if not all of those old Cubans will return because they still have family in Cuba. My grandmother has always told us she will not leave Cuban until everyone from our family is out of Cuba. When she comes she is thin and frail, when she leaves she is in much better health and leaves with clothese and some necessities for our family in Cuba.

Originally posted by dgtempe
I may not have been there to see a lot but i sure had family left behind who suffered enormously and i know all about it.

I don't mean to be condescending, but I really don't think you do. Some of the statements you have made in the past make me believe you don't know of much which has been happening in Cuba. Castro blames everything that happens in Cuba on the U.S., and in these forums you can see many people, most of them from the left, doing the same, blaming the U.S. and "Capitalism" for all the wrongs in the world and calling for "changing from Capitalism and supplanting the system"...

Originally posted by dgtempe
Oh, and by the standards of those times, i was born to a priviledged family who had everything- but remember, the lord giveth and Castro tooketh away everything we had.
I dont get your point.

My point is that you can't see the similarities between much of what the left and even democrats and some others keep asking for, and the promises and programs implemented by castro after the revolution.

Originally posted by dgtempe
I'm always with you as far as Castro's atrocities, this subject i am speaking of has to do with 90% of Cubans HERE who think Bush is the hottest thing since apple pie.
THAT my friend, is being nearsighted, at the very least!!!

Not really, they just know that Democrats and some other groups are leaning way too close to what they left behind, and what so many Cubans and others had to pay their lives with trying to leave.

Kerry and any other Democrat would have just taken us a step closer to a real dictatorship. Are you forgetting the "100 day plan" which Kerry had in store if he would have been president? I excerpted it directly from a couple of Kerry's website as well as other news media who covered this.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Kerry wanted to install a system similar to that in Cuba...where citizens starting from the very young to the very old would be paying for their education with a "national service plan" in which everyone including kids would be working for the government.

Of course after Kerry's 100 day plan was linked to the Communist/socialist programs of dictatorships like that of Cuba or the old U.S.S.R. all of the links to Kerry's website and some other Democrat websties which outlined this plan were removed...

Clinton wanted to, and stills wants alongside with his wife to take all weapons from American civilians, and Clinton has been caught as claiming "only the military and the police should have weapons".

The Clintons have also recieved campaign contributions from Communist chinese who work for the Chinese government, and let's not forget the scandals mostly during the Clinton administration when classified informaiton was being stolen like there was no tomorrow by the Chinese.

You were talking about JFK before, saying he was a good Democrat. In a way yes he was a lot better than most other Democrat presidents, but he did go back on his promise of helping Cubans fight against castro's regime.

You also forget that was a time when it was patriotic to want to help other countries which are/were opressed by dictatorships.... now it is publicized by many of the press as "trying to expand an imperialistic empire" or some other BS.


I guess you have to leave Calle 8 to develop some sense of loss of freedom, and beleive the boogeyman is at every corner.

Open your eyes, Muaddib. Not everything in this country is rose colored. I love this country and dont want to see it go to hell, but you love this country and dont see ANYTHING WRONG untill......I dont know what its going to take for you to wake up and smell the tyranny.

Originally posted by dgtempe
You associate Democrats with COMMUNISM and that is totally wrong. We've had many Democratic presidents and we've never had Communism here, not since i've been around.

So why the blind spot?

Habla!

It is not wrong. Trying to take weapons from all American citizens except the military and police...wanting to install a "socialist system similar to that of Cuba where even children would have to work for the government to pay for their education"...

People from the left claiming, like Democrat Senator Barbara Boxer, that Communism even in Cuba was dead, and even what you have seen in these forums some people claiming "we can learn from the Communist system of Cuba about the healthcare system, and some other programs" should tell you differently.

The fact that the left is sprouting the same propaganda which Communist dictatorships have been srpouting for ages about "We have to supplant Capitalism and stop the Imperialistic regime of the U.S.", and the fact that you get many from the left even in this site also siding in such propaganda and wanting to blame every problem in the world on the U.S. should be telling you differently....

How many people in here have even cheered for Chavez even after i ahve been saying since 2004 he is a Communist, many of you claiming he isn't until in his 2007 speech he finally said he is a Communist?... and still you get many members in these forums claim the U.S. is a dictatorship and that Chavez is fighting for his people....

Not to mention the fact that most of the left claim the U.S. is controlling the world, or trying to and is trying to expand its "empire" yet when it is shown that people like Cahvez and others the left keep cheering up for want a "Global revolution similar to that of Cuba and Venezuela"....

I am pretty sure i am leaving some things out..

[edit on 4-8-2007 by Muaddib]

Well, we DO have a number of people here who sympathize with Fidel and if they only knew the hell he caused and is causing, they wouldnt be saying that.
But to compare the left with Commie sympathizers is not right.

This country is going to hell rapidly and its that far rabid right who wants to step all over the US constitution and do things their way. Its chaos, and getting worse. More than 80% want impeachment for both Bush and Cheney- that ought to tell you something.

We need a change! And we need a change now and i say impeach the hijos de pura NOW.

Far left and far right- we need to be somewhere in the middle like we have been before.

We need peace, man, dude. Before we blow ourselves up to kingdom come. I got living to do, and my guess is so do you.

I do think we are on the eve of destruction.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Well, we DO have a number of people here who sympathize with Fidel and if they only knew the hell he caused and is causing, they wouldnt be saying that.
But to compare the left with Commie sympathizers is not right.

I never said all democrats or everyone in the left is a Commie, but yes it is true that many of the programs/ideas the left have in mind are very similar to that of Communist countries.

You just have to take a look at some of the things that the left has been doing since around the 60s.

The protests against the Vietnam war were strengthtened by iconic images which "supposedly showed the U.S. was aiding injustices, as in the case of the NLF officer who was executed in front of journalists. Since the media even back then decided to leave the truth out, it seemed that it was an injustice. What the journalists edited out of their film was the ditch in which 30+ bodies of South Vietnamese people, many who were police officers and families of the police officers who were bound and executed by the NLF....

Like that iconic image there were several other images used to give more strength to the opposition of the war...through lies, or exagerations....

Then you had people like Jane Fonda, who was filmed laughing, posing, and joking with North Vietnamese troops, and she would define American soldiers as "baby killers"...but would say nothing of the injustices done by the North Vietnamese against the South Vietnamese who didn't want to be subjected to Communism....

There are many other examples, but then it would make this thread too big, and i really don't have the time nor the inclination to be looking at everything the left has been doing since then.

Anyways, nowadays you get people like Alex Jones asking Chavez to help him find the truth about 9/11... You get people like Moore going to Communist Cuba and performing a stunt, which is nothing more than a lie, claiming the healthcare in a Communist dictatorship is better than the healthcare in the U.S.

Not only that, you can even see in these forums that many from the left side with dictators like castro and people like Chavez, who is also a Communist, and these people claim we can learn from the systems of those countries.

Then you get the people from the left who make up lies claiming the U.S. is responsible for deaths which were caused by for example "Communist regimes", and those same people and others make any and every claim to try to bash and blame the U.S. for everything that happens in the world.

Not to mention the fact that the left has even picked up the motto said by Communist dictators to "destroy Capitalism and supplant it with a socialist system"...

And you ask me why I say that the left is leaning way too close to Communist ideals?

WEll, i don't know... i guess they haven't sided with Communists, bashed and blamed everything that happens in the world, including the deaths caused by Communism on the U.S., they haven't cheered Communist dictators and claimed "we can learn from such dictatorships", and they haven't asked for help from Communist dictators such as castro and Chavez....or have they?....

Anyways, the problem as i see it is that most people who are from the left have never seen or experienced what really happens in Communist regimes, and many of those people cheer Communist regimes like that of Cuba, as if it was the most wonderful system, and castro or even Chavez as saviors of the world.

I am certain there are some who realize there is a connection, and that's exactly what some in the left want.

Conspiracies are not only confined to "The U.S. government is behind every evil in the world"... There are quite a few people from the left that don't have anything good in mind for the American people, or for the world for that matter.

Originally posted by dgtempe
This country is going to hell rapidly and its that far rabid right who wants to step all over the US constitution and do things their way. Its chaos, and getting worse. More than 80% want impeachment for both Bush and Cheney- that ought to tell you something.

DG, you sound like "you want things to go your way"....

Anyways, the time when America was at it's greatest was when "conservative ideas" were cherished by all, including the media.

The time when Americans were proud of anwsering the call to help other countries , even if it meant going to war.

Now-a-days the liberal media shows only the bad, but not the good. During WWI and WWII there were factories built just to supply for the war, which OMG RICH PEOPLE OWNED, AND THEY MADE PROFITS BECAUSE OF WARS!!!! of course it also gave jobs to thousands of Americans...

BTW, tell us who was it that gave more rights to criminals than to the law abiding citizen?...

Who wants to take away the weapons from all law abiding citizens?...

Originally posted by dgtempe
We need a change! And we need a change now and i say impeach the hijos de pura

NOW.

Impeach them for what exactly?.... Some other members and i have shown dozens of comments from pretty much every leader in the world and pretty much everyone, including Democrats and others from the left, all who believed Saddam had WMD before the war...and some like former President Clinton still thought there were WMD even after the invasion and when people were doubting anything was to be found. But now for some strange reason everyone wants to blame the current U.S. administration for something the whole world believed in.....

Is it because you have to fill out a form if you and a group of people want to demonstrate against or in favour of whatever you want to demonstrate about?.... Has it ever crossed your mind what would happen if for example KKK members were able to freely demonstrate in black neighborhoods?.... Hey that's freedom of speech right?....but then again a bloodbath would ensue.... Hence demonstrations need to be set up in a way that everyone can be safe.

If people have to fill out paperwork and have to be assigned specific areas where they can protest is simply to protect others.... The U.S. Constitution does not protect only the rights of some protesters.... it protects all of us...

Of course if it was up to, for example protesters who are against president Bush, they would form a line right in front of his car, they would throw stones and bottles, which they have done, and would even attack the president if they had the chance.... i guess some believe they have the right to do so....but they don't.

In any and every society there is a need for rules and laws...otherwise it would be anarchy.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Far left and far right- we need to be somewhere in the middle like we have been before.

When was there really a middle of the road DG?

You came to the U.S. in the early 60s, you were 8 years old. Back then things were differently in many ways. I can't speak/write about you in specific because I don't know exactly what experiences you had in the U.S. back in the 60s and 70s. But that was a time when the left started growing and getting more support, there was the anti-war movement which you grew up to experience and which could have swayed your opinion.

I can tell you about two friends of mine who are brothers and they are older than me, and one of them is older than you, who both also came from Cuba back in the early 60s. They told me things were so different back then that they had to even change their names to sound more American, because with Cuban names it was very difficult to get a job. Hence i would say that many of the older generations of Cubans who came to the U.S. back then had to make many changes to be able to be accepted here.

Originally posted by dgtempe
We need peace, man, dude. Before we blow ourselves up to kingdom come. I got living to do, and my guess is so do you.

I do think we are on the eve of destruction.

Well, peace is always good but peace is only a break in between wars. It has been this way since the dawn of manking and will continue to be this way until we are no longer walking on this Earth.

Whether you want to accept it or not, there are several nations in this world, and many of them don't have the same plans or have the wellbeing of the rest of the world, or even their own people in mind, and i am not talking about the U.S.

There are several countries/regimes which have plans to expand around the world. When the U.S.goes after a regime which was not only brutal but at the time seemed to have WMD, and could still exist buried somewhere in the desert of Iraq, the left wants to claim "the U.S. wants to dominate the world"....

You get Islamic radicals making terrorist attacks not only in the U.S. but several nations around the world and the left wants to claim it is all made up by the U.S. government....

Why is it that the left turns a blind eye to what is really happening in the world, including the statements made by crazy lunatics such as the Iranian president who says the destruciton of Israel and even it's allies is near?....

Or even Chavez makes claims that the world needs to stop Capitalism and the U.S. if we want to survive, and Chavez wants to expand the "revolution" to be a global conflict.... or any of the other dictators/world leaders who make similar statements....

But i guess i must agree with the left and accept lies and claims that the U.S. is to blame for pretty much everything that happens everywhere in the world...

[edit on 7-8-2007 by Muaddib]

I had started this thread today and it was thrown into the trash bin, unfortunately there were some very wise replies. I did not know what to think when I received this as an email today from my brother so passed it over to ATS to analyzed by the information net-workers here. No offense to this thread, sorry.
My comment was and still is, the main problem for me is that if we keep a watchful eye on our Islamic neighbors we are considered as profilers. If we befriend them then we are being the stool pigeons of the radical Islamics that are pretending to be our friends and neighbors just to gain information to use against us. Either way they will still kill you if given a chance.

Originally posted by antar
I had started this thread today and it was thrown into the trash bin, unfortunately there were some very wise replies. I did not know what to think when I received this as an email today from my brother so passed it over to ATS to analyzed by the information net-workers here. No offense to this thread, sorry.

You started a thread similar to this one today, but I started this thread on July 30th, which is probably why your thread was put in the trash.

BTW, what information were you passed on through an email that you wanted to pass along?

Originally posted by antar
My comment was and still is, the main problem for me is that if we keep a watchful eye on our Islamic neighbors we are considered as profilers. If we befriend them then we are being the stool pigeons of the radical Islamics that are pretending to be our friends and neighbors just to gain information to use against us. Either way they will still kill you if given a chance.

Not all Muslim people are bad. Moderate Muslims have also been murdered by Islamic extremists.

[edit on 8-8-2007 by Muaddib]

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We tend to make jokes about people that try to warn of danger ahead. There are some crackpots but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Fore warned is to be forearmed. The Muslim people have pronounced war on Jews and Americans. To kill one is a ticket to Heaven to them. They are not joking but laugh at the stupidity of the people being so stupid thinking dqanger will be somewhere else. These people are greatly misinformed. If you are depending on TV controlled news media to keep you informed you have been greatly misinformed.

Well I'm sure its going to happen sometime. As Mossad was behind 9/11 to get its lapdog America to attack Iraq. Now the Israelis want the US to attack Iran. They are not strong enough to do it themselves but need the US. If Obama and co don't do what they are told then yes these false flag attacks will happen and Iran will be blamed. Whatch out for a cranking up of the anti Iran propaganda then you will know what is going to happen.

From 9/11 American and other lives have been sacrificed just for Israel and its cause. The perps in control in Israel will sacrifice anyone, even their own people to further their agenda. I just which those in the US and elswhere had the backbone to resist the Israelis.

reply to post by Muaddib

Juval Aviv's prediction email is STILL going around..I just recieved it today. I guess it can help to make us more aware and not passive about terrorists. It opens our eyes to watch out for bags left unattended, and just keeping an eye and an ear open to anything, even if it is something that seems like a terrorist website. I came across a site that displayed some really scary plans of some kind. It mentioned terrorism and certain details of coming into the U.S. from Canada. Mentioning different place, and overall it was kind of a scrambled type of site, where you must have needed a certain program to completely read the text. I forwarded the information onto Homeland Security. I beleive it's very important for ALL of us to fight terrorism and watch out for each other. Don't be afraid to REPORT something, even if it's a breifcase that was left on the subway. Call the police and get people away from it. I am against war just like so many of you, but what can you do when there are other countries raising kids to become human weapons? Children taught to run out to our soldiers asking for water or acting like they are hurt and need help, while they then pull the pin on a granade? Islamic extreamists are brainwashed from THEIR bible that God wants them to kill all that do not believe in their religious beliefs. The truth is there are terrorists all around the world, not just in Iraq. Keep your eyes open! We are a spoiled nation and can't imagine our lives being disrupted or having the problems of war on our own soil. We all think it won't happen here, or at least to our own family. It happened on 9/11 but that wasn't in my little town, not my little world. The threat of terrorism is real, it can happen anywhere.