Support the NWO

Originally posted by AcesInTheHole
sb2012, so you are pro-population control, is that where your going with this?

No, i just provided links i was asked to provide, or similar ones anyway. I am not for population control, except maybe for responsible parenting, not having 10 kids in poverty and giving people condoms in Africa, so they control AIDS a bit.

With technology this planet can be a home for a lot more people than today, some say even 70-200 billion, but i am not sure. Maybe with cities underwater.

They estimate global population won't go over 9 billion until 2050, but also depends how many we will kill in the meantime, since we are so good at that. wiki

Pentagon predicts same thing, it was on some video from military strategist Thomas P.M. Barnett and nobody objected his strategy. Even more, they are doing same thing he and others planned out, force 'rogue' nations to 'integrate'. Ah well... Nice to talk that way, but in reality it means war and killings.

[edit on 24-6-2007 by sb2012]

Originally posted by golddragnet

Originally posted by Vixion
To be honest with oyu my opinion is that alot of the NWO stuff is that, you have to get a job and live my the law, so basicly you arnt aloud to be a criminal who doesnt have a proper job, form what ive read, ive got nothing to worry about.

Is that a demonstration of the slave mentality, willing to submit to the control of others

www.youtube.com...

www.svpvril.com...

and what makes a world goverment so diferent from a coutrys goverment ? so what oyu got to hide from the NWO then ? nothing your just being fussy.

Originally posted by Vixion
and what makes a world goverment so diferent from a coutrys goverment ? so what oyu got to hide from the NWO then ? nothing your just being fussy.

When the governments are localised it is much easier for the people to exert at least some sort of control over them. For example, the people in a country in Europe can have some influence over their governments, especially on the run up to elections, obviously the people don't have anywhere near enough influence, but some nonetheless. Take the ID cards in UK for example, the people are able to refuse. However when the EU make it compulsory for everyone to have an ID card, it is going to be infinitely more difficult for the people of each nation to take a united stand against the leaders of the EU in Brussels.

If you are living in a country, take an asian or south american or african country as an example, and the decisions being made for them are made either in Europe or USA, then how are the people living in rural towns and villages going to make their voice heard by the powers that be living in a far off land. And supposing those laws passed are forcing through compulsory vaccinations or compulsory GM crops, well, how would you feel about those decisions being made in somewhere so distanced from you that you have absolutely no chance of letting them hear you voice your concerns about it. Each country should have their own government. Also when you have governments working only for their own people it creates healthier competition and also puts a certain pressure on each government to measure up to the next one. It isn't about hiding anything, but why should you have to answer to a government from a far off land. Supposing in the near future China becomes the strongest world power, do you want your political decisions made by a Chinese politicain. Take a close look at the politics in China, a one-world government will inevitably fall under the control of selfish evil megalomaniacs.

New type of government is needed, not communism or capitalism, but something better. Allowing others to make decisions for you is bad unless it's about global projects, for example Internet works better when it follows one standard, but i agree, local issues are local and regional government should intervene only when local needs help or broader cooperation.

Unity of the world is not the problem, only thing which we need to care about is who will be in charge and how can we make sure there would be no corrupted elites in charge.

Originally posted by sb2012
Hitler was a Nazi, influenced by some bankers, but still a racist and because you can't support united world when you are indwelt by prejudice he was unfit for the task. He glorified one race, mostly based on what Blavatsky wrote, which was misinterpreted. Master race meant spiritually aware and advanced race, nothing to do with blond hair and blue eyes. They surely were stupid.

About population reduction and slavery, as NWO is usually portrayed -- this is easier to achieve than current plans. You simply resort to biological attack or even nuclear one, reduce population and then enslave poor and confused people who would just think how to survive. So, if that would be true, it would be a reality already. Since 1960's we have enough weapons to 50x exterminate all the population.
[edit on 23-6-2007 by sb2012]

Hitler was backed by bankers and industries the treasonous Prescott Bush ring any bells- Also part of the NWO you want to be a part of.

The way NWO becomes powerful is through fear - they creat the wars / terrorist attacks - they make money on all these things -although its not about money anymore for them its about simple control of the masses.

Now the way they get control is by killing people in staged wars and conflicts. by terroizing the populace into submission.

Orion_



[edit on 24-6-2007 by Orion_grey]

Originally posted by sb2012
Hitler was a Nazi, influenced by some bankers, but still a racist and because you can't support united world when you are indwelt by prejudice he was unfit for the task. He glorified one race, mostly based on what Blavatsky wrote, which was misinterpreted. Master race meant spiritually aware and advanced race, nothing to do with blond hair and blue eyes. They surely were stupid.

About population reduction and slavery, as NWO is usually portrayed -- this is easier to achieve than current plans. You simply resort to biological attack or even nuclear one, reduce population and then enslave poor and confused people who would just think how to survive. So, if that would be true, it would be a reality already. Since 1960's we have enough weapons to 50x exterminate all the population.

[edit on 23-6-2007 by sb2012]

Hitler was backed by bankers and industries the treasonous Prescott Bush ring any bells- Also part of the NWO you want to be a part of.

The way NWO becomes powerful is through fear - they creat the wars / terrorist attacks - they make money on all these things -although its not about money anymore for them its about simple control of the masses.

Now the way they get control is by killing people in staged wars and conflicts. by terroizing the populace into submission.

Orion_

(delet above post please)

[edit on 24-6-2007 by Orion_grey]

Yes, i want united world but not run by greedy leeches, so if some group spreads fear and forces you to do things you don't want and which don't help society, you should never support them.

[edit on 24-6-2007 by sb2012]

Originally posted by Leyla

Originally posted by sb2012
Support the NWO. Why not after all? Every advanced civilization unites globally and starts to cooperate instead of using bits from holy books as an excuse to go into the war. Just look at all the wars today and in the past and you will see most of them are based on theocratic ideas from religion and rarely for other reasons.

Wow no thank you. Remember when how people said how Aids came about? That is came from a monkey in Africa? Or somthing to that effect. And why is Aids still rampant? It has not been wiped out yet.. Perhaps this is the population control people speak of. So far 25 million people died of AIDS.

en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 6/24/2007 by Leyla]

There are almost 7 billion people on this earth and the population is still rising. AIDS must be a VERY, VERy ineffective population control if it even is one.

Question, for other people. IF this depopulization is true. Why is the population still sky rocketing? I could claim the common flue is manmade depopulation virus even though fatalities are rare.

Perhaps the overall concept of a new world order will be for the greater benefit to mankind

What will be brutal and remove a large proportion of the global population will be the war (that perhaps we are already in the beginning stages of) that the new global society will arise from...think about it, we are already part-way there...and here on the ATS board is a prime example, members from all corners of the world virtually linked in our social group, we have conversations amongst ourselves as if we were sat in a club-house in the real world and without a second thought that there can be many thousands of miles between each person

All forms of mass social change throughout history...from the US war of independance/civil war that gave rise to the United States today, the English civil war that gave us the current British parliamentary system separate from the Crown, to the Russian and Chinese revolutions that gave birth to the Communist system of governance...many tens of millions died in the bloody birth of the nations we live in today with the rights and freedoms that we are granted.

We as a global society are headed for a chaotic fall into the abyss even without a helping hand from an 'unseen elite'...there always will be an elite-group that govern and maintain any social system, regardless of philosophy...whether it be altruistic or dictatorial will be another matter (and dependant on your viewpoint)

Global society needs to come together as a cohesive directed whole for us to advance in any meaningful way. Even the idealised 'world-as-one' as depicted in Star-Trek was born from the remnants of a massed global conflict, and it will be the next one coming that will make mankind realise that we have almost rendered our own species extinct, and from that point, work together...billions of us...to advance beyond all previous known capability

Yes, most probably it will happen that way. What i don't get into my thick head is, why do we need all this violence and slaughter all the time for even small changes in society? Or why elite is acting like leeches drinking our blood even after they grab more wealth they can spend in 100 lifetimes? Makes me wonder.

On a positive note, maybe this global conflict will destroy most of the elite too.

Population control would help prevent many of the tragedies in today's world, like war, famine, disease, etc. I'm all for it, also...I don't see why people associate the NWO and globalization as one thing. Globalization is going to happen and it would be very efficient in the way resources are handled across the world. The idea of a 'new world order' has been twisted with rumors, myths and preconcieved notions which are far from reality. Globalization would benefit humans greatly.

Originally posted by sb2012
Hitler was a Nazi, influenced by some bankers, but still a racist and because you can't support united world when you are indwelt by prejudice he was unfit for the task. He glorified one race, mostly based on what Blavatsky wrote, which was misinterpreted. Master race meant spiritually aware and advanced race, nothing to do with blond hair and blue eyes. They surely were stupid.

About population reduction and slavery, as NWO is usually portrayed -- this is easier to achieve than current plans. You simply resort to biological attack or even nuclear one, reduce population and then enslave poor and confused people who would just think how to survive. So, if that would be true, it would be a reality already. Since 1960's we have enough weapons to 50x exterminate all the population.

[edit on 23-6-2007 by sb2012]

I agree the new world order is a great thing. Everyone would stop fighting and finally peace. The NWO would be great.

Originally posted by Vekar
Where did you hear that from anyway?


I had the game since the year it came out. It should say it on their TA site, but it may be gone now because of SC.

Those NICE things you describe are merely its diguise, the real NWO crowd is faceless, and foments wars, sending out manipulators, like socialists and communists did and do. Its a criminal entity and I just feel your either one who gives up the fight too quickly, or just havent read between the lines. How can you merely forgive a group of people who have funded both sides of wars, call for 80% population reduction, have a slew of deadly mass destruction weaponry, and celebrate the death of a child at bohemian grove. On top of that they mock the public work slaves and shopping naives with high fructose drinks, bad fast food, and a nice little paycheck where you see they stole 80-500$ from for illegal taxes. So if you all concede to a NWO dictatorship, I will rather live on nuts and berries. or not live at all. Because its like hitler, only more manipulative and just as or way more annoying.

Originally posted by zlnetworks

Originally posted by sb2012
Hitler was a Nazi, influenced by some bankers, but still a racist and because you can't support united world when you are indwelt by prejudice he was unfit for the task. He glorified one race, mostly based on what Blavatsky wrote, which was misinterpreted. Master race meant spiritually aware and advanced race, nothing to do with blond hair and blue eyes. They surely were stupid.

About population reduction and slavery, as NWO is usually portrayed -- this is easier to achieve than current plans. You simply resort to biological attack or even nuclear one, reduce population and then enslave poor and confused people who would just think how to survive. So, if that would be true, it would be a reality already. Since 1960's we have enough weapons to 50x exterminate all the population.

[edit on 23-6-2007 by sb2012]

I agree the new world order is a great thing. Everyone would stop fighting and finally peace. The NWO would be great.

then why have noted NWO people said it out loud?

They were only joking..its ok you can laugh about it. No no, killing those poor urbanites and the acceptable losses of the economy slaves is ok, as long as the rich and powerful families of snooty sex depraved inbred losers get there stupid faced way..dont believe us when we warn you, its your fault, not ours. when you realize your hopes became quickly false hopes.

I sense disinfo agents in this thread

Seriously, do you think a man who plots to destroy the worlds population through manipulation and evil engineering really would want a free and equal world when it's all over?


Just doesn't make sense to me

Originally posted by wildcat
..do you think a man who plots to destroy the worlds population through manipulation and evil engineering really would want a free and equal world when it's all over?

That sounds more like reference to the anti-christ and book of Revelations...

A sizeable chunk of the population is quite likely to die even without the outbreak of mass mechanized global conflict...Gaia is starting weed-out the human population of the planet already to redress the balance of nature, deadly and untreatable antibiotic-resistant TB strains are appearing (as reported in the US and UK news in recent weeks) as well as other medication-resistant pathogens such as SARS etc. Human immune systems have become weaker by the generation with the dependancy on modern medical; and drug treatments and the phamacological arsenal at our disposal is getting more and more limited.

Added to this is humans beginning to fight to control basic resources for survival such as oil and water...that is where the wars will start (and have started)

Out of all this will arise a new social globalised order, a new empire, and we humans since the beginning of 'society' have always lived under rule of empire, subjugated by, or lead by one nation or another under many different philosophies.

At the start there will be social manipulation and imposition of harsh law as the new society establishes itself out of the chaos of anarchy, much as the current US empire was born out of the global-anarchy of WW2.

Every time an old social order recedes and a new system is born, there will always be bloodshed and a generation or two living under iron-rule, once that order of society is established and accepted, peace happens

Makes me wonder why is all this bloodshed required. Are Gods really that incompetent? I mean, people are easy to manipulate so you could manipulate them to accept new order or form of society without killing each other.

It's elements in power who want humanity to bleed, so they suck some more profit from it. But still where is God then? If he is not around to prevent that, it means we are free to kill the oppressors and rule as we see fit since nobody 'in heavens' really cares about humanity. Or we need to fear and pray for the best while others are raping our dignity? Hell no! Maybe Satan is really the only God here, as some believe.

[edit on 26-6-2007 by sb2012]

The N.W.O. is somthing that should have been thought ofand enforced upon society sooner... Of course all you people are going to try to destroy and rebel against the idea...i mean somthing has to make you people feel like you sand for somthing in life. FYI N.W.O. is the only hope for a future that will not consist of anything worse then what the world has become today... and its only completly visable to open eyes ...the world is "simply stated":GOING DOWN THE TUBES!!! wake up we need the N.W.O...........The N.W.O. is somthing that the world not only could use but its somthing that it needs if we want a future.