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Of Donkeys and Elephants

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posted on May, 28 2007 @ 06:40 PM
Of Donkeys and Elephants

(An example of Isisian Decryption Techniques and Underlying
Philosophical Principles and is designed for the student already
versed in some of the more technical aspects of the Craft and logic
patterns of the Illuminatus.)

In Gottfried Liebniz, the father of German Philosophy post
Renaissance, I find a hazy kinship. "Nothing is without its reason,
and every truth has its a priori proof drawn from the notion of its
terms, though it isnt always in our power to complete this
analysis." So says Liebniz. Was he hinting at the Veil?

In 1661, Liebniz would state, "With my eager efforts at this problem
I arrived of necessity at a consideration of astonishing import:
there must be, I thought, a kind of alphabet of human thoughts that
can be constructed, and that will discover and judge everything else
through the connection of its characters and the analysis of the
words composed of them."

I too thought this, long before I was introduced to Liebniz, and had
arrived at this concept through pure Occultic work, or what the
Philosopher might call "ontological" principles. It is no secret
that the Letters are a curse: they bind in a way that are almost
unfair to the unworldly. That MAN is 13/1/14 is Pi is mirrored in
the sounds CAN = 31/14.

If the Letters bind, then what are they who have no Letters? Free.
Could the Code of AFRICAN be an extended code of A FREE CAN(MAN), and
so the agents of the darker side who use this same code then set upon
them to "enslave them" to show that they are not "A FRI CAN" afterall?

And what of AMERICAN?

What exactly of Donkeys and Elephants? Are these not the very symbols
of the American republic? So what of Donkeys and Elephants?

Said Liebniz, in "De arte combinatoria", in 1666, "If we possessed
what I have in mind, we could reason in metaphysics and in morals
very much as we do in Geometry and Analytics, for the characters
would fix our thoughts, too vague and variable in these matters where
the imagination furnishes us no aid, except by means of characters.

"Thus man would have a new instrument which would increase the power
of mind far more than than optical instruments strengthen the eye,
and would surpass the microscope and telescope to the same degree
that reason is superior to sight.

"Our characteristic will reduce all questions to numbers, and offer a
kind of statics by which rational grounds can be weighed."

What we could term as "hyper-rationalism" could be fused
to "metaphysical principles" to change the whole construct of mankind
such that the Letters themselves can serve to increase the power of
the human intellect, and in the process, create a collective will or
conciousness that is able to ascertain and judge all phenomena
through a rational construct set against the Letters, which, and in
the process, shed light on what is purposely mystified. As
metaphysics pushes the envelope of what is concsiousness, what was
metaphysics becomes hyper-rationalism to be diffused as theories into
the body of the whole.

But what of Donkeys and Elephants?

In the study of any construct based on the Letters, there are at
minimum two primary distinctions: that which is practical, and that
which is theoretical. The goal of the Metaphysician dedicated to
this craft is to take what is "theoretical", and hence defined as
mystified, and so bring forward the construct such that the construct
becomes practical. Ideas, even those based on Absolute Truths, must
be explained such that they have value to the collective whole.

How do you shift the use the Letter B as a mass conscious raising
tool if the primary body of concsiousness is using it (the Letter B)
unconcsiously? Unconcsious usage is simply a recognition of
appearance without any consideration of what might or is contained
within any given construct. Said Kaestner in 1766, "Our whole idea of
nature is nothing more than a knowledge of appearances, which would
present us with a different face if we saw what was actually in

posted on May, 28 2007 @ 06:41 PM
Providing this esoteric wisdom is the value and purpose of
our craft, and ultimately the basis upon which a comprehensive
English Qaballa shall be founded.

Hence there is a further need for refinement, that of the
intelligible, and that of sensible. It is not enough "to know your
ABC's": our sense of society mandates that it is morally expected
that all our kin have a right to read and better themselves. Yet the
sensible relies quite literally on the senses for its condition of
meaning, and as such, trending towards what is sensible is
contributing to "the Fall" in that no effort is made to effect the

We are not allowing our collective concsiousness to ascertain what is
intelligible simply for we have been too lazy and pompous to develop
the means towards a mass "religion" or "theology" predicated on "what
is intelligible" although its fount is Metaphysical. If we try once
to teach but once what is Metaphysical, and by inference,
Intelligible, and should we be skewered for the effort, we
proclaim, "they are not ready to hear what we have to offer", or some
wayward Elder will proclaim, "don't lay your treasure before
swines.", and all the while we retreat to our anterooms, secure in
our knowledge yet still surrounded by ignorance.

It takes great skill and courage to walk the path from the
Metaphysical, to the Hyper-rational, to the Intelligible, and
ultimately, to the Practical, yet all the while maintaining
an "open door" or "non initiate" policy.

Yet what of Donkeys and Elephants?

posted on May, 28 2007 @ 06:42 PM
One should not underestimate the power and skill of the forces that
make-up our Symbols, be it Letters or Donkeys and Elephants. In
Metaphysik (Halle, 1755-1759), III Part (1757) Oars 587-589, George
Frederick Meyer is quoted as saying in defense of Baumgarten, "Many
believe this faculty of knowledge generates only poetic and other
similar compositions. But a little reflection can convince us that
it extends much farther. For we compose or create whenever we put
together as a single concept parts of different imaginings and
representations of such seperated concepts from our clear sensations."

If one reflects further, one can hear the feint whispers of the
Hermetic Alchemical influences on such a statement wherein at its
most basic representation is the idea and action of fusing two
seperate compounds to make a third, and it should not be presumed
that the mixing of compounds is confined to material manipulations:

"...By what principles does human reason build such immense
edifices? Where does it find its foundations, and how can it derive
universal ideas and principles from particular sensations, to serve
as the sure foundation for structures so tall? - Philosophische
Versuche uber die menschliche Natur und ibre Entwickelung (2 volumes,
Liepzig, 1776)

Donkeys and Elephants present us with a unique opportunity to present
our craft in full view for we can show the value of our Letters, the
power of our ability to bring together seemingly disparate ideas, and
fuse them to a single idea which makes the whole greater than the sum
of the individual components. I.e., we build a "universal idea" that
serves as a foundation for the future that equally illuminates what
is clearly hidden in plain view.

posted on May, 28 2007 @ 06:51 PM
The Use of the Isisian Codes to Illuminate the Occult Symbolism of
the American Political System

It is impossible to perceive the subtleties of the American system
without an extensive and exhaustive study of the Isisian Mystery
Systems as they became enshrouded into Masonic, Rosicrucian,
Hermetic, and Kabballistic traditions. Everywhere, from the use of
the Pentagon to the Statue of Liberty are hidden symbols waiting to
be brought into the light, their very existence proof of a more a
more hidden reality subsurface to the American experiment.

So what, then, of Donkeys and Elephants? At the very basic of
representations, the Donkey represents "the Democrats", while the
Elephant represents "the Republicans". These are our "basic building
blocks", but to understand the Occultic nature of these symbols, you
must delve deeper into the philosophiess from which their hidden
meanings are derived

Essentially, as it is structured today, there are two "daemonic"
powers at work. To the Western Masses, these two are "sold" as "God"
and "Satan/Lucifer". This is a simplicity for the masses: it is not,
however, the way the more hidden Occultic forces percieve this: many
a Mason has come to realise soon that what is "god" is
really "satan", and what is "satan" is really "god".

But even these definitions are too simplistic for the complexity of
the issues at hand, so let us use the main "legend" to place "the
all" back into perspective.

There is "reality for the masses" and a parallel and powerful
Occult reality "for the Initiated", with a "hidden power" that
controls "the all". Unless you come to appreciate the hidden
reality, you can never appreciate the effort that has gone in to
create the "reality for the masses": at all times are two hidden
forces tugging and influencing the masses yet remaining hidden in
full view, and Donkeys and Elephants is just one way this is

Let us unwravel the Mystery of Donkeys and Elephants.

First and foremost one must come to understand that the various
factions and systems of the modern day "Occult" are descendents of a
set of "higher powers" that uses human agents for its actions in the
material. These higher powers are correctly "higher powers" as
defined within the very early stages of various Initiatory Systems,
although these various Initiatory Systems often utilize incorrectly
the Hebraic concept of "a higher power", singular, which is perhaps
their greatest flaw and weakness equally. Regardless, as designed in
English, the archetypes have been built around thhe Egyptian pantheon
and then altered, Occulted, to fit Hebraic sentimentalities.

To simplify the whole, and indeed nothing is actually so simple when
discussing these matters, numerous archetypes have been built through
both time and space and interjected into the material. As described
by Plutarch in Isis and Osiris while discussing these matters, "That
these accounts do not, in the least, resemble the sort of loose
fictions and frivolous fabrications which the poets and writers of
prose evolve from themselves, after the manner of spiders,
interweaving and extending their un-established first thoughts, but
that these contain narrations of certain puzzling events you yourself
(Clea) will understand. Just as the rainbow, according to the
account of the mathematicians, is a reflection of the Sun, and owes
it many hues to the withdrawal of our gaze from the Sun and our
fixing it on the cloud, so the somewhat fanciful accounts here are
but reflections of some true tale."

To truly grasp Donkeys and Elephants, you must truly grasp the nature
of these reflections and how these reflections are recorded into
mythology and legend.

posted on May, 28 2007 @ 06:52 PM
Donkeys and Elephants implies two different factions and so clearly
we are dealing with two different factions. Yet the method of
Occultation is to imply a single faction, or a rather simplistic yet
complex belief in a pattern called YHVH. This is, of
course, "Jewish", but in truth is really English (Isisian), and
herein is where the confusion takes root.

As stated in Plutarch's Isis and Osiris at the opening of Chapter
20, "These are nearly all the important details of the legend, with
the omission of the most infamous of tales, such as that about the
dismemberment of Horus and the decapitation of Isis." These
statements are "reflections of some true tale" that Plutarch adds are
filled with melancholy. Pragmatically, this statement by Plutarch is
nothing less than a political statement veiled in a "religious
allegory": the heads, or leaders, of the "priestcrafts" of Isis and
Horus, as had happened to that of Osiris an Aeon or so before, had
been exterminated.

The fount, or head, had been exterminated, yet remained functioning
due to the quality of the infrastructure that had been put into
place: the knowledge and the philosophy, however, was clearly in
retreat and was being pressed on all fronts. The war of the "gods"
had become a "human affair". As chronicled by those doing the
beheading, the Rabbinical priestcrafts and their related Occult
systems in Jeremiah 65:11, "But you men who are leaving Jehovah ,
those forgetting my holy mountain, those setting in order a table for
the God of Good Luck, and those filling up mixed wine for the God of
Destiny. And I will destine you men to sword and YOU and all of YOU
will bow down to be slaughtered, for the reason that I called and you
did not listen, and YOU kept doing what was bad in my eyes, and the
thing in which I took no delight YOU shose."

The priestcrafts of Osiris, the God of Good Luck, and Horus, the God
of Destiny (Horus), was being viciously torn asunder by a terrorist
mentality that accepted no other contenders no matter the reasons
why, for the purpose of the terrorists was (and remains) to destroy
the previous knowledge of "a particular system" absolutely and use it
for their own purposes and remold it for a new class of "human", what
today we could term "the Illuminati". Clearly "something" existed
that was quite powerful and for which there was to be
teoretically "no trace", as chronicled in Isaiah 65:16-
17, "...because the former distresses will actually be forgotten and
because they will actually be conealed fgrom my eyes. For here I am
creating a new heavens and a new earth and the former things will not
be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart. But
exult, YOU people, and be joyful forever in what I am creating."

What was being created was abject ignorance, for in destruction of
the previous knowledge, by necessity, what would remain would be
complete darkness. The Deluge was setting in.

Jerusalem was the prize. It was the Dreidle point, the axis, from
which all manner of deceptions would be promulgatged and terrors and
wars waged. In Donkeys and Elephants, we have the aggregation of
those souls who seek after the God of Terror and exult in it, but
what are Donkey's and Elephants?

The answer lies in metaphysical reasoning, religious insanities, and
pragmatic historical analysis from an Occultic perception resulting
in a tale of intrigue that is on the face preposterous and
impossible. Yet with the former things forgotten, we are left to
analyse the traces left behind by they who were exterminated in
service of Jehovah/Set/Typhon, for we know that not all sought after
terror and sought to implant everywhere the "god of Good Luck",
inspite of the insurmountable odds. To their credit, they succeeded
beyond their wildest hopes and aspirations.

posted on May, 30 2007 @ 08:02 PM
Looks and sounds like a straight copy and paste.

If not, good work, if so, please follow ATS guidelines.

posted on May, 30 2007 @ 10:23 PM

Looks and sounds like a straight copy and paste.

Correct. It is a very old article of mine I never completed. It was designed to explain the symbolism behind "Donkeys" and "Elephants" as symbols to the American political system, and before I could finish, all the symbols net-wide that clearly showed the Elephant part of the system became swept from the Internet.

I thought to myself, "hmmm, now isn't that a coincidence" and ceased with the article...

posted on May, 31 2007 @ 05:20 AM

all the symbols net-wide that clearly showed the Elephant part of the system became swept from the Internet.


Something not right about you at all..

posted on May, 31 2007 @ 07:52 AM
Freud once famously said that "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar", meaning that at many times people attribute meanings to things that really aren't there. I believe this may fall under such a category. The Republican elephant and Democratic donkey were both invented by cartoonist Thomas Nast in 1870 for his newspaper comic strip, and afterwards became nationally adopted by both parties, partially out of a sense of humor.

I will concede that some political symbolism, however, does contain occult elements even if they are not overtly "occultic". The swastika used by the Nazi Party of Germany is the most obvious example. As an ancient solar symbol, it sometimes produces a semi-hypnotic effect, especially among non-initiates.

Another lesser example is the hammer and sickle used by the international Communist Parties. This symbol, unlike the swastika, does not have an occult origin, and was meant to simply symbolize solidarity between worker and peasant. Nevertheless, it produces a similar effect on the subconsciousness that the swastika does.

posted on May, 31 2007 @ 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Rockpuck

all the symbols net-wide that clearly showed the Elephant part of the system became swept from the Internet.


Something not right about you at all..

I concur. I think we are all being taken for a ride.

posted on Jun, 2 2007 @ 02:03 PM

I concur. I think we are all being taken for a ride.

On a personal level, I am getting a kick out of you. It seems that everything one says and does that is "truthful" to you is seen as 'lies and deception" with the caveat that the messenger must be "what"?

Are you just a total reject and completely clueless or what?

Do you even KNOW WHAT THE AUM TRI-GLYPH looks like?

And IF YOU KNOW...can you do a GOOGLE SEARCH on the GLYPH and post the link here?


You are appearing as classically clueless as the screaming Christian on the street corner. And that, my dear friends and audience, is no joke.

I challenge any of you to go find the AUM Tri-Glyph on the www in a Google Search.


Then remind this chattering genius to explain why such a glyph has been totally swept from the net...and mind you, the "net" is a really really vast and varied place.

posted on Jun, 2 2007 @ 02:12 PM
Well, I did find this which you are most likely familiar with.

[edit on 2-6-2007 by interestedalways]

posted on Jun, 2 2007 @ 02:23 PM

Something not right about you at all..

Yeah. I tell the truth with brutal honesty...something apparently a few of you are not quite versed in or used to.

I will repeat the challenge to our clueless little ranting Mason...what is the AUM Tri-Glyph? How is it structured? Upon what archetype and letter is it founded? Describe the glyph in its entirety...

Such are the tests that are required for you or anyone else to be admitted into the Circle...which does not exist and yet is prevalent everywhere.

Let me set this up for the audience...

The Acroamatic Cipher - from Secret Teachings of All Ages (google search will get you there)

[color=redThe acroamatic cipher. The religious and philosophical writings of all nations abound with acroamatic cryptograms, that is, parables and allegories. The acroamatic is unique in that the document containing it may be translated or reprinted without affecting the cryptogram. Parables and allegories have been used since remote antiquity to present moral truths in an attractive and understandable manner. The acroamatic cryptogram is a pictorial cipher drawn in words and its symbolism must be so interpreted. The Old and New Testaments of the Jews, the writings of Plato and Aristotle, Homer's Odyssey and Iliad, Virgil's Æneid, The Metamorphosis of Apuleius, and Æsop's Fables are outstanding examples of acroamatic cryptography in which are concealed the deepest and most sublime truths of ancient mystical philosophy.

The acroamatic cipher is the most subtle of all, for the parable or allegory is susceptible of several interpretations. Bible students for centuries have been confronted by this difficultly. They are satisfied with the moral interpretation of the parable and forget that each parable and allegory is capable of seven interpretations, of which the seventh--the highest--is complete and all-inclusive, whereas the other six (and lesser) interpretations are fragmentary, revealing but part of the mystery.The creation myths of the world are acroamatic cryptograms, and the deities of the various pantheons are only cryptic characters which, if properly understood, become the constituents of a divine alphabet. The initiated few comprehend the true nature of this alphabet, but the uninitiated many worship the letters of it as gods.

Now let's play with an Acroamatic Cipher.

1) From Isis and Osiris

On the second of these days Arueris was born whom they call Apollo, and some call him also the elder Horus. On the third day Typhon was born, but not in due season or manner, but with a blow he broke through his mother's side and leapt forth. On the fourth day Isis was born in the regions that are ever moist;63 and on the fifth Nephthys, to whom they give the name of Finality64 and the name of Aphroditê, and some also the name of Victory.

What Letter or Glyph is being described? What "god" is this "glyph"? Place this god back into the proper Judeo-Fascist construct.

Jesus on the Cross from John 19:33-34

but when they came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, and at once there came out blood and water.

Now since "I" am "not right", and seem to say things not acceptable to some of you, perhaps instead of criticising everything you read, you can take a few months out of your life and try to figure out just these two glyphs as referenced above, come to understand the absurdities and truths, etc.

What is "not right" about "me" is that I can "see" things that you and many others cannot. What is "right" about me is that I do not treat people in a way that says they are "not worthy to learn" and freely share information regardless of initiations, etc.

But make no mistakes...nothing is as it appears.

[edit on 2-6-2007 by TheFetch]

posted on Jun, 2 2007 @ 02:35 PM

posted on 2-6-2007 at 12:12 PM
Well, I did find this which you are most likely familiar with.

Interestedalways - I am impressed. I had forgotten about that article. It was somewhat crude and undeveloped being early public attempts to bring some of this information forward. I am not sure that is the article that was written where the AUM Tri-Glyphs were removed from the Google search's, but it was definitely around that time.

To this day, that Glyph (and I have not bothered) has never been put back up. There used to be a total of 5 when the original article was released.

To RBWPR and others - the Barbelith article shows how long this concept has been in development for a mass public consumption point of view...and to say that the research has not been multiplied and vastly expanded would be naive.

In total, this concept has some 20,000 hours of research, astral working, etc., and the formulas are generally quite lucid once you start to get the hang of how the whole was put together.

Thanks for bring in the article...that was really a first attempt to explain the apperception of the conceptual. I do not consider I did a great job on that article, but at least the effort was made.

[edit on 2-6-2007 by TheFetch]

posted on Jun, 2 2007 @ 02:42 PM

I will concede that some political symbolism, however, does contain occult elements even if they are not overtly "occultic". The swastika used by the Nazi Party of Germany is the most obvious example. As an ancient solar symbol, it sometimes produces a semi-hypnotic effect, especially among non-initiates.

I would take this far further.

The F and the V share identical phonetics and are dimensional representation of the precise same phenomena. The clue is here...


[IMG][/I MG]


and here...

It took me a long time to completely figure out the F and the V and their relationship to the Dreidle.

[edit on 2-6-2007 by TheFetch]

posted on Jun, 3 2007 @ 10:12 AM
You are saying the Shrine at Mecca is JEWISH because you found a square Draidle.

What may I ask is your problem with Jews?

posted on Jun, 3 2007 @ 02:39 PM

You are saying the Shrine at Mecca is JEWISH because you found a square Draidle.

You raise many issues.


The wise Occultist comprehends the nature of the Symbol in play and is not fearful to put the symbol back into its rational construction and elevate the meaning for all to understand.

2) The idea of "what is "JEWISH"?

Failing an accurate and focused Occult understanding of the word results in delusional idiologies in and of themselves being brought forward that can rely on ignorance and paranoia's to manifest where none need. However, the Dreidle is an OCCULT SYMBOL used by "Jews" to celebrate their victory over others.

This "celebration of victory over others" has more hidden Occult overtones in regards to the Seth forces (worshippers of Jehovah/Typhon/Seth) who have fought over Millenia to overthrow and destry the Ancient Mystery Systems (of which Masonry at one time was one of the strongest and successful in preserving the inherent truths of these ancient Mystery Systems), and by inference, plunge humanity into gross ignorance and all the negative attributes that come when ignorance is allowed to rule over reason.

Two phrases can be elevated here to highlight the ongoing nature of this war, and the assault on the Mystery Schools.

From Isis and Osiris by Plutarch

These are nearly all the important points of the legend, with the omission of the most infamous of the tales, such as that about the dismemberment of Horus95 and the decapitation of Isis.
and from the Torah, or Bible, Isiah 65: 11 (Holman Christian Standard)

You have abandoned the LORD and forgotten my holy mountain. You have prepared a table for the god of good fortune and offered cups full of spiced wine to the goddess of destiny.

In the "god of Fortune" we have "Osiris" who would later become the "playing cards" and in the "goddess of destiny" we have Isis.

In the worshippers of the DRIED EL, or the "Jewish god", we have the forces who seek to destroy in order to supplant the Ancient Mysteries.

We, therefore, apply to Jehovah/Typhon/Seth that which beings droughts and famines, as it is referenced again in Plutarch's On Isis and Osiris

The insidious scheming and usurpation of Typhon, then, is the power of drought, which gains control and dissipates the moisture which is the source of the Nile and of its rising; and his coadjutor, the Queen of the Ethiopians,231 signifies allegorically the south winds from Ethiopia; for whenever these gain the upper hand over the northerly or Etesian winds232 which drive the clouds towards Ethiopia,

In this way do we refer to El as Osiris and to El as Jehovah, just as we refer to A as Osiris and to I as Jehovah, even as each have a value of "1".

Hence the DRIED EL, or the "dreidle" is a clue to the larger game in play, and so too the word JEW will cipher itself to JUD and to JUNE equally, showing that it is Osiris who is the "god of Darkness who brings light" while Jehovah/Typhon/Seth is the "god of Light that brings darkness".

Failing to absolutely and wholly understand the nature of the Construct enables you to be led along in an irrational fashion "defending this or that" and not understanding that what you defend are outer manifestations of a more Occulted reality.

posted on Jun, 4 2007 @ 11:12 AM

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