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Originally posted by chinawhite
You mean the panda or the plane?
Originally posted by NotheRaGe
OMG u just crossed the invisible but forbidden line. Dont contine these insults please...
Anyway I guess Pakistan is really troubled over whether to choose F-16s or J-10/FC-1. She's risking losing either China or US's Support. Politics are going to be heavily involved
Originally posted by jensy
Its ironic that the USA encouraged IAI to stop makign the Lavi so as to protect sales of F16. Now that it has lead to the J-10, the Lavi phoenix rises from the Ashes only to bite america in the behind. (incidently if the Lavi had gone ahead there is no chance that it would have been sold to a muslim country and would have protected sales of the F-16).
Their AF certainly has the brains to choose the better a/c and if they choose the J-10 over the F-16 blk 50 then thats a very big signal about the J-10's capabilities. Esp with all the US pressure.
Originally posted by Daedalus3
choose the J-10 over the F-16 blk 50 then thats a very big signal about the J-10's capabilities. Esp with all the US pressure.
Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf says he will postpone the purchase of F-16 fighter planes from the US.
He said Pakistan needed to focus on reconstruction in the wake of the quake that killed more than 70,000 people.
Pakistan had been expected to buy more than 50 planes at up to $40m each. Quake reconstruction is put at $5bn.
"I am going to postpone that... we want to bring maximum relief and reconstruction efforts," he said. Pakistan has long sought the jets but the US only approved the sale in March after years of sanctions concerning Islamabad's nuclear programme.
Originally posted by mikesingh
I mean the plane!!!
Originally posted by Stealth Spy
Originally posted by Daedalus3
choose the J-10 over the F-16 blk 50 then thats a very big signal about the J-10's capabilities. Esp with all the US pressure.
There is speculation about PAF buying J-10's for sure .... but where does it say it will be at the cost of F-16's ? This appears to be the posters imagination.
The PAF has been desperately trying to buy F-16's from the USA for the past decade but has been unsucessful in doing so. While the PAF has been desperately trying to get block 30 F-16's they have now suddenly been offered block 50's. To expect them to give up this opportuinity to buy F-16's ... ...some imagination
The only reason the F-16 deal has not been gaining momentum is because of the devastating earthquake in Pakistan.
[edit on 25-2-2006 by Stealth Spy]
Originally posted by iqonx
Originally posted by jensy
Its ironic that the USA encouraged IAI to stop makign the Lavi so as to protect sales of F16. Now that it has lead to the J-10, the Lavi phoenix rises from the Ashes only to bite america in the behind. (incidently if the Lavi had gone ahead there is no chance that it would have been sold to a muslim country and would have protected sales of the F-16).
united states actually funded the Lavi jet from what i understand i may be wrong but i thaught they paid over $1.3 billion dollars in devolpment costs and an billions of dollars worth of technology transfers of engine blueprints and actual engines, manufacturing machines, radar designs, source codes for fighter jets(f-16), engine managment electronics, fly by wire electroncs etc...
israel would have sold the Lavi technology to china anyway why do people act as if israel cares about america and protecting its technology we don't even know 1/10th of the technology transfers israel has carried out with china especially small sized portable technology such as portible GPS jammers and communication jammers etc... those types of transfers would be impossible to trace when you can just pack that technology in you briefcase and take it on a plane to china and gove it too them its almost impossible to know what they have given or what they will gove.
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by mikesingh
I mean the plane!!!
In another recent thread i could also have posted things about india, But i know its a senitive topic for you and i didn't
Daedalus3, Agree his a flamer?
And mike for your benifit here is a picture of its tight turn in chengdu.
[edit on 25-2-2006 by chinawhite]