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China is developing an advanced version of the Chengdu Aircraft Industrial Corporation (CAC) J-10 multirole fighter aircraft, referred to as the Super-10, with a more powerful engine, thrust-vector control, stronger airframe and passive phased-array radar, according to Russian sources.
Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG (RSK-MiG) specialists, contracted to provide technical assistance to Chinese design houses, said the enhancement to the J-10 airframe is a logical step, since the fighter was initially intended to have the compact Pratt&Whitney PW1120 engine that powered the Israeli Lavi aircraft, which served as a basis for the J-10.
However, the imposition of US export restrictions forced the decision to install the 20 per cent heavier Russian AL-31FN engine, which requires a larger intake as it needs 40 per cent more air flow.
Janes.com (subscription required)
Production examples of China’s J-10 fighter will be powered by an increased thrust version of the AL-31FN engine with a 29,800lb (132kN) output and thrust-vectoring control.
Flight International.com
Will feature- Passive PAR, TVC, Strengthened Airframe, Russian help. The J-10 was originally designed to use the Zhemchug, a mechanically scanned slotted array by Phazotron, but some critical components were made impossible to copy.
The other Bureau, Tikhomirov, recently resumed a working relationship with the PLAAF, after having submitted an early prototype of their Pero in the late 90s but with no followup by the Chinese. They are now submitting a derivative of the Pero (is this the Panda?). The Pero was originally designed for use on the Su-30KN.
Recall the recent large order for engines in late 2005. Most observers assumed it was for more of the AL-31FN, but this is not so. It was for a new engine, the AL-31FN-M1. The M1 features an enlarged fan with inlet diameter of 924 mm instead of 902 mm, which improved thrust from 122.6kN to 132.4 kN. Also features a swivel nozzle developed by Salyut in conjunction with Zavod imeni Klimova. Similar to the KliVT used on the RD-33OVT of the Mig-29OVT- it's improved over the IAF's Su-30MKI in that it deflects in BOTH pitch and yaw, rather than pitch only.
Originally posted by chinawhite
The rest of the article mentions inproved thrust and life time engines. I never throught the J-10 would feature TVC but this is a good development.
I also heard that doing the cobra manuver can trick the radar on a AAM because the pulse-dropper radar works on speed or something like that
Originally posted by Daedalus3
Anyways, is the TVC J-10 a reality or are we hearing info about stuff which is yet to be finalised?
The RD-33 seems to be a tad underpowered for a jet of that size.
You heard that? hmm..
Originally posted by chinawhite
This was how i heard it.
Doppler radars work on speeds and to make them work, it filters out slower objects so the radar does not get cluttered, The Su-27 does a cobra and slows down under a certain speed and the radar mixes it up
AAM missiles are presumerly more sensitive
Chinese J-10s have always overcome their Flankers in their exercises adding more mystery to the already little known about aircraft.
Source
Originally posted by chinawhite
How does it look like a EF?