posted on Dec, 9 2005 @ 08:18 PM
simple but of course very complex I think as Lucid Lunacy said logiic and human consciousness will try and grasp what came first...well said...
However If we take one scientific principle as a basis that is well proven... that is a big bang from nothing sprangand created this universe....
Whatever caused that a Diety/God or ID (ID operating on the mechanical universalistic level i.e that because of finely and seemingly beyond
coincidence Mathemitical Constants in the universe, allows it initialy to exist in the first place!!!!
lol) from that nothing it expanded and we
know that in the expanded bit of everything we occupy (ie just our universe whats outside that?) that in this reality Time is inextricably linked to
the speed of light (just think black holes etc)... which is just energy/matter.
Einstien ie relativity makes it simple really. You need mass/energy in seperate locals of a universe/place/reality for time to exist.
Therefore using very very circular logic
before we(on the large scale we being this universe from incepton) existed, no matter,energy was present
as it initially sprang from nothing (even if that was a dreamtime of a God!) no matter/energy = no time.
Therefore there was nothing or maybe just a nothing in a cycle of nothings and then things!
Which could infer that that if no time existed god/creator couldnt until his work manifested in the actual universe as it....and ultimately us!!!
never deny the gods in yourselves?
However you could also infer from this that Time created god!
[edit on 9-12-2005 by MischeviousElf]