UK PM Rishi Sunak announces shift on climate policies delaying switch to electric cars by 5 years

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U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak on Wednesday said his government would take a new approach to meeting its emissions targets as he announced a delay on the ban on the sale of new gasoline and diesel cars.

The ban will move from 2030 to 2035, in a shift that was criticized earlier in the day as causing uncertainty for the automotive industry as it readies for the electric vehicle transition

Sunak said people needed more time to make the transition away from gas boilers and that households in some areas would get a delay on existing targets for the ban on new fossil fuel boilers. He also announced a 50% increase in cash grants under the government's boiler upgrade program.

"I believe deeply that when you ask most people about climate change they want to do the right thing, they're even prepared to make sacrifices, but it cannot be right for Westminster to impose such costs on working people, especially those who are already struggling to make ends meet," he said Wednesday. He also denied watering down targets despite the pushing back of key timelines.

When realism takes over the green agenda then the latter becomes a thing of the past. After Sweden ditching its targets for 100% renewable energy supply making plans for much more realistic, reliable and efficient sources of power (nuclear being a major source of energy in Sweden), the UK seems to be having the same thoughts just as every country with sane energy policies that have delivered several blows to the ridiculous green agenda.

It is good news to hear U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak does understand some of the practicalities of today's world. Even if some new battery technology turned up tomorrow to make the electric car more feasible, there will still be a demand for oil and gas for another 100 years with all the infrastructure built around it.

originally posted by: kwakakev
It is good news to hear U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak does understand some of the practicalities of today's world. Even if some new battery technology turned up tomorrow to make the electric car more feasible, there will still be a demand for oil and gas for another 100 years with all the infrastructure built around it.

Obviously!

You can't rely on unreliable, inefficient, and expensive sources of energy, generally speaking.

originally posted by: kwakakev
It is good news to hear U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak does understand some of the practicalities of today's world. Even if some new battery technology turned up tomorrow to make the electric car more feasible, there will still be a demand for oil and gas for another 100 years with all the infrastructure built around it.

The new policies in switching to electric cars may not happen for years to come due to the lack of infrastructure and the cost of having unrealistic and very expensive green targets.

Ditching all the green energy targets it's the best option and the most realistic.

Hey poor person, go and purchase a water heat pump for £15,000. Whilst you're at it, pick up a £70,000 electric vehicle, that'll end up on fire.

Then, we're going to tax you at a quarter of your earnings, inflate a other 15% off your savings and put energy and food costs up by 45%. PH and your savings will be capped, or we'll tax that at a higher rate. And don't you leave an inheritance for your spawn, because we're DEFFO' going to tax that too, sincerely yours, your billionair leader.

meaningless distraction from the way westminster is using the corporates it owns to police the country and force changwe the country without mandate as it'll use those corporates to make the date what it wants..

Kicking the silly can down the road is still not a solution.
I'd love to know what these multi-national oil suppliers like BP/Shell/ Murco etc have to say about all this.
As my dear father used to say, way back in the '70's, (he was well placed at Shell prior to then), they all have new technologies locked away in safe's.....
Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: angelchemuel
Kicking the silly can down the road is still not a solution.
I'd love to know what these multi-national oil suppliers like BP/Shell/ Murco etc have to say about all this.
As my dear father used to say, way back in the '70's, (he was well placed at Shell prior to then), they all have new technologies locked away in safe's.....
Rainbows
Jane

as we saw with covid and see with brand and farage the gov uses the corporates it controls to deliver change not through law but by pressure, they pretend everyone is free as they continue to debank, demonetise and smeer non conforming citizens. we saw it in covid where tesco was pushed to place tampons, pads, painkillers, books and children's items on the non essential list that people were forbidden to buy except from gov approved retailers.

a gov that does that will make sure petrol cars are unavailable and unrepairable, it'll make sure you are cold and hungry to get obedience there is a name for this kind of governance by corporate rather than law..

originally posted by: kwakakev
It is good news to hear U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak does understand some of the practicalities of today's world. Even if some new battery technology turned up tomorrow to make the electric car more feasible, there will still be a demand for oil and gas for another 100 years with all the infrastructure built around it.

there is no infrastructure to replace the base load with intermittent power nor is their the infrastructure to deliver that to the general public, no evs or 15 min cities are possible thus what will happen in mass sections of the uk, aka the poor will be without power, heating or cooking facilities while the other is toasty warm with all the food..

what they've created is the very worst of outcomes one that'll only lead to the worst kinds of authoritarian gov policies to control the poor, cold, hungry masses..

a reply to: kwakakev

It’s more likely this is because Rishi Sunak’s family has a big stake in a oil and gas that he recently gave the green light for 100 new drilling licenses including one previously untapped source.

I bet this ends up backfiring on him, there’s no real pushback on the “green” agenda, not common sense or sound policy, agenda 2030 is in full swing, even if Sunak thinks he can delay to 2035.

a reply to: AlienBorg

The world is still inundated with "the land of make-believe" unfortunately, but slowly we are seeing some rationality return as people realize they are dealing with lunatics who have no real plan, just a bunch of short sighted nonsense they'd like to "try out" at the expense of our very lives and livelihoods.

I wonder if this culture revolution will go hot?

Hell, anything is possible at this point..

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: kwakakev

It’s more likely this is because Rishi Sunak’s family has a big stake in a new oil rig that he recently gave the green light to construct.

I bet this ends up backfiring on him, there’s no real pushback on the “green” agenda, not common sense or sound policy, agenda 2030 is in full swing.

nah its all because they have minimal hope of surviving the next election, losing is what the cons want to happen as we saw with May trying to throw the election, so its electoral oblivion they are fighting against, for them the dream outcome is to be hm opposition with 100/90 seats the worst is oblivion with less than 80 seats and the punishment outcomes is a May or Cameron style non victory.

but at the current pace of liberalism dying at least 50% are politically homeless in the uk, and listening to the con undertones huge chunks of their rank and file want the party dead, as long as the party survives it'll get funding kill the party and cons election war chests go elsewhere that is what the rank and file are after a new party they've been struggling for sice 2010..

listening to those same undertones it was easy to predict brexit and predict what would happen when so many became £3 socialists to get corbyn elected labour leader. corbyn only came close because he had the con rank and file behind him..

what the legacy parties don't want is the electoral oblivion that they will face, its why starmer had to pivot to saying Women are adult human females, he had to if he wanted to keep his party alive as did sunak.. reverse ferreting the green agenda is what they'll all have to do to remain electable and a chance of surviving what's coming..

It makes sense, at the dawn of the age of electric vehicles, for a nation to have a controllable source of great power in operation.

Nuclear power plants. I think everyone should have a couple.



a reply to: AlienBorg

a reply to: AlienBorg

Finally some common sense.

With the reality that electricity will be the way that society can and will be able to be controlled by the powers that be. Smart meters can be remotely switched on and off.

Have a look on YouTube for Guy Martins project to build an electric car. He had to travel almost the length of the uk in an electric car, charging stations were out of order. He got bad charge anxiety.

The cost was about a hundred quod more than if he did the same trip in a diesel.

These are major issues, that will not be solved.

It’s clearly all for control.

Interesting about the boiler statement. We have a hydronic gas boiler, it’s 93 percent efficient, condensing type.

Electric boilers are not as efficient, and the ist of electricity is always increasing.

Plus in Victoria straya, new houses can no longer have gas appliances.

Control control, there is no Kaos!!

If anybody can figure out a way to use pyrolysis on end of life tyres and use the restored components to make new tyres the need for oil would be greatly relieved.

The calculation is one tyre per person per year reaches the end of it’s working life.

That’s per human on the plant.



a reply to: kwakakev

originally posted by: Dalamax
It makes sense, at the dawn of the age of electric vehicles, for a nation to have a controllable source of great power in operation.

Nuclear power plants. I think everyone should have a couple.

a reply to: AlienBorg

the uks needs more than a couple labour should have been building new ones in the 90s strike that thatcher should have in the 80s then labour in the 90s and now the cons, the uks baseload is 30 years out of sync. even now the gov rejects modular reactors that work for unknown american ones it has no idea if they'll work or not..

so as it stands net zero is zero chance an ev rollout will ever happen and zero chance the 15 min cities can work.. at this rate the political upheaval from this litterny of errors will force the uk to follow china and reopen the pits and build many new coal power stations as a stop gap until a new range of small modular rex=actors can come online.

its a f*ck up of such epic proportions it fits in the bracket of expecting prayers to god to come true. if you wish hard enough.

We've hit the point where the requirements to provide the improvement needed are so expensive that you suddenly find a lack of political will as who wants to pay lord knows how much to rip up the streets so we can lay fatter cables when there's a station down the road that can do it already.

a reply to: Maxatoria

Exactly and its been an issue since the 80s the only path the west has left itself is either cold or open the pits and ruah through new coal power stations.. if they choose cold then people will force the quick path back to sanity with coal..

to be honest i've no idea what any of them are thinking are we really at the end of life of this ideology is it really this bankrupt, i have to wonder if this is how the soviets felt looking at the looming fall..

Some of the lefty/greenies are beginning to realize there's a big cliff at the end of the road they're taking. Current and future projected electrical capacity is nowhere near the future load projected if their "Green" dreams are implemented.
Rolling blackouts and other nastiness is in their future. Electric cars that can't be charged off the mains. Blackouts in the winter. Electric bill twice the take home pay of most consumers. Etc. Etc.

originally posted by: ntech
Some of the lefty/greenies are beginning to realize there's a big cliff at the end of the road they're taking. Current and future projected electrical capacity is nowhere near the future load projected if their "Green" dreams are implemented.
Rolling blackouts and other nastiness is in their future. Electric cars that can't be charged off the mains. Blackouts in the winter. Electric bill twice the take home pay of most consumers. Etc. Etc.

Based ^