France bans female muslim students from wearing abayas in state schools

Islam has regressed and many interpretations and/or branches and denominations of it are diametrically opposed to 'Western' values and thinking.

Islam is about 500-600 years younger than Christianity.
Islam today at times reminds me of Christianity of 500-600 years ago along with all its intolerances, injustices and shear barbarity.

Who knows where they will be in 500-600 years time?

Personally I still think Islamic extremism is the single, biggest threat this world faces.
Are we still allowed to say that?

a reply to: Freeborn

I fear marxists far more than Islamists.

originally posted by: Freeborn
Islam has regressed and many interpretations and/or branches and denominations of it are diametrically opposed to 'Western' values and thinking.

Islam is about 500-600 years younger than Christianity.
Islam today at times reminds me of Christianity of 500-600 years ago along with all its intolerances, injustices and shear barbarity.

Who knows where they will be in 500-600 years time?

Personally I still think Islamic extremism is the single, biggest threat this world faces.
Are we still allowed to ay that?

Excellent analogy!

Islam is what was Christianity centuries ago. But there is nothing to show Islam will evolve in the future. If anything it will be even more regressive.

originally posted by: Freeborn
Islam has regressed and many interpretations and/or branches and denominations of it are diametrically opposed to 'Western' values and thinking.

Islam is about 500-600 years younger than Christianity.
Islam today at times reminds me of Christianity of 500-600 years ago along with all its intolerances, injustices and shear barbarity.

Who knows where they will be in 500-600 years time?

Personally I still think Islamic extremism is the single, biggest threat this world faces.
Are we still allowed to ay that?

Western society is falling before your very eyes and you refuse to acknowledge it. Your globalist puppet governments forcing CBDC's, social credit systems and depopulation are the biggest threat.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Freeborn
Islam has regressed and many interpretations and/or branches and denominations of it are diametrically opposed to 'Western' values and thinking.

Islam is about 500-600 years younger than Christianity.
Islam today at times reminds me of Christianity of 500-600 years ago along with all its intolerances, injustices and shear barbarity.

Who knows where they will be in 500-600 years time?

Personally I still think Islamic extremism is the single, biggest threat this world faces.
Are we still allowed to ay that?

Excellent analogy!

Islam is what was Christianity centuries ago. But there is nothing to show Islam will evolve in the future. If anything it will be even more regressive.

All you're saying is the religion hasn't changed and Muslims are firm in their beliefs as should be. You are praising it more than you think. Fastest growing religion in the world and there's nothing you or anyone can do about it. I have also witnessed more people becoming Christian of late. Why do you reckon that is? Perhaps because the lefties have destroyed modern society by enforcing their luciferian agenda? Everyone wants to play God. Truth is, everyone is insignificant.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

I fear marxists far more than Islamists.

Is there such a thing as a real and genuine Marxist nowadays?

The vast majority of those who get labelled Marxists nowadays bear little if any resemblance to traditional Marxists and I very much doubt could quote anything from Engels and Marx's Communist Manifesto or any other Marxist thinkers theorising.

So called Cultural Marxism does indeed pose a huge threat at many levels - including support of the Islamic apologist narrative - but please don't mistake it for genuine Marxism.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: AlienBorg

Why? My background is Applied Maths - it's impossible to deny the massive role the Islamic Academies ad Scholars played in the fields as mathematicians and scientists travelled from all over the world to study there and escape persecution in Europe at the time. Maths and science were heavilly revered in Islam and mosques were built to worship geometry.

Without the concept of 0, mathematical notation or Arabic numerals we'd be stuch with Roman numerals which are very inneficient, without advanced algebra of abstract maths most scientific fields couldnt be developed- Fibonacci travelled there to study and brought the works of Al-Khwarizm to Europe in the Liber Abbaci.

You can give credit to some Islamic scholars, that's fine. You cannot credit Islam in my view. This is a terrible and backward political ideology. In the early stages of the religion progress was made but Islam isn't judged on what some scholars and movements of thought achieved at that time. I am not doubting the role of the Arabs and other Islamic Scholars in Mathematics, Science, Engineering, philosophy. But Islam as a whole failed...

If it failed why is it the fastest growing religion in the world?

originally posted by: sarahvital
a reply to: tanstaafl
and a cult..

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: CoyoteAngels

I fear marxists far more than Islamists.

Is there such a thing as a real and genuine Marxist nowadays?

The vast majority of those who get labelled Marxists nowadays bear little if any resemblance to traditional Marxists and I very much doubt could quote anything from Engels and Marx's Communist Manifesto or any other Marxist thinkers theorising.

So called Cultural Marxism does indeed pose a huge threat at many levels - including support of the Islamic apologist narrative - but please don't mistake it for genuine Marxism.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Socialism leads to communism. Western world is full of deluded socialists. People who want a piece of the pie they are undeserving of. These same socialists are trying to ban religion and liberate us from the natural order. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. You have it twisted.

a reply to: Freeborn

You know who I'm talking about. What is a good label we can all agree on? Liberal, leftist, marxist, commie, woke, what?

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

I know a hell of a lot of traditional, left-wing leaning people who despise this woke bollocks just as much as you and I do.

a reply to: AlienBorg

I have a photo of a donkey parallel parked along a walkway with automobiles and trucks. Some of the most crowded parts of the city are not wide enough for traffic at all.

500-600 years behind Christianity? Well, yeah, 3rd world is gonna 3rd world.

They are coming up fast and strong, in some Muslim countries. Who is to say which social order is better: the one where the drs will lie to you, and your teachers will lie to you and will mutliate you in sacrifice to a DEI god or the one that allows 4 wifes to be provided for by a man that can afford them, instead of the welfare check?

I had a good look in the American mirror while travelling. It's everybit as insane. But there is a sense of UNITY in Islamic countries. Nobody argues about politics and if men can be women.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: AlienBorg

Why? My background is Applied Maths - it's impossible to deny the massive role the Islamic Academies ad Scholars played in the fields as mathematicians and scientists travelled from all over the world to study there and escape persecution in Europe at the time. Maths and science were heavilly revered in Islam and mosques were built to worship geometry.

Without the concept of 0, mathematical notation or Arabic numerals we'd be stuch with Roman numerals which are very inneficient, without advanced algebra of abstract maths most scientific fields couldnt be developed- Fibonacci travelled there to study and brought the works of Al-Khwarizm to Europe in the Liber Abbaci.

You can give credit to some Islamic scholars, that's fine. You cannot credit Islam in my view. This is a terrible and backward political ideology. In the early stages of the religion progress was made but Islam isn't judged on what some scholars and movements of thought achieved at that time. I am not doubting the role of the Arabs and other Islamic Scholars in Mathematics, Science, Engineering, philosophy. But Islam as a whole failed...

Great post, I agree with all that.

Post 1950s corruptions of Islam like Qutbism and Wahabbism promoted by Saudi Arabia are the polar opposite to the original culture that caused the Golden Age and instead ban women and non-Muslims from education and banning the traditional practice of using science as a tool to question the Quran and Hadiths.

Thankfully the millitant interpretations of Islamare a very small minority but every step should be taken to stop them getting any foothold in the West.

a reply to: Freeborn

Like Reagan once said, when he switched parties and became a GOP GOAT. "I didn't leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left me".

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: AlienBorg

Why? My background is Applied Maths - it's impossible to deny the massive role the Islamic Academies ad Scholars played in the fields as mathematicians and scientists travelled from all over the world to study there and escape persecution in Europe at the time. Maths and science were heavilly revered in Islam and mosques were built to worship geometry.

Without the concept of 0, mathematical notation or Arabic numerals we'd be stuch with Roman numerals which are very inneficient, without advanced algebra of abstract maths most scientific fields couldnt be developed- Fibonacci travelled there to study and brought the works of Al-Khwarizm to Europe in the Liber Abbaci.

You can give credit to some Islamic scholars, that's fine. You cannot credit Islam in my view. This is a terrible and backward political ideology. In the early stages of the religion progress was made but Islam isn't judged on what some scholars and movements of thought achieved at that time. I am not doubting the role of the Arabs and other Islamic Scholars in Mathematics, Science, Engineering, philosophy. But Islam as a whole failed...

Great post, I agree with all that.

Post 1950s corruptions of Islam like Qutbism and Wahabbism promoted by Saudi Arabia are the polar opposite to the original culture that caused the Golden Age and instead ban women and non-Muslims from education and banning the traditional practice of using science as a tool to question the Quran and Hadiths.

Thankfully the millitant interpretations of Islamare a very small minority but every step should be taken to stop them getting any foothold in the West.

Like I said above you should be worried about the destruction of your constitution, the abolishment of gun and property ownership. Climate change lockdowns coming in 2024, C19 lockdowns and forced you know what...coming in December, the introduction of Central bank digital currency and the end of physical cash, the banning of farming and consumption of meat, banning of the internal combustion engine, introduction of social credit systems, end of independent journalism, your last bit of freedom of speech, the destruction of the family unit, flood of immigration, recent spike in racism, theft of your tax dollars, educational system and the normalization of P*edos etc etc. Stop worrying about Islam, your own gov is selling you out.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Revealed by who?
Created is the right word.

Revealed by Mohammud, the prophet, himself.

There's really nothing new in there. Mohammud didn't create monotheism. It's all just a reiteration of Old Testament monotheism stuff. Have you read Jeremiah? Daniel? Zacharia or Ezekiel? Polytheism was not looked on favorably by any of the Old Testament prophets. Monotheism was the global trend at the time, and Mohammud took his people there, and his family dynasty rode that wave and are still riding it from on top of the world. en.wikipedia.org...:House_of_Hashim

originally posted by: DeadSnow

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Freeborn
Islam has regressed and many interpretations and/or branches and denominations of it are diametrically opposed to 'Western' values and thinking.

Islam is about 500-600 years younger than Christianity.
Islam today at times reminds me of Christianity of 500-600 years ago along with all its intolerances, injustices and shear barbarity.

Who knows where they will be in 500-600 years time?

Personally I still think Islamic extremism is the single, biggest threat this world faces.
Are we still allowed to ay that?

Excellent analogy!

Islam is what was Christianity centuries ago. But there is nothing to show Islam will evolve in the future. If anything it will be even more regressive.

All you're saying is the religion hasn't changed and Muslims are firm in their beliefs as should be. You are praising it more than you think. Fastest growing religion in the world and there's nothing you or anyone can do about it. I have also witnessed more people becoming Christian of late. Why do you reckon that is? Perhaps because the lefties have destroyed modern society by enforcing their luciferian agenda? Everyone wants to play God. Truth is, everyone is insignificant.

They're usually base this argument (fastest growing religion) precisely on the claim their religion an scriptures haven't changed. But at the same time you should look into the demographics as Islamic countries and Muslims in general multiply faster than most if not all western countries. Even within non Muslim countries, the Muslims who live there tend to have more children.

a reply to: SwissMarked

Muhammed ripped off the bible. SO that will tell you a round about time that the Quran was written after the bible.
Now ARABS and people in those lands were not always muslim,and soem inventions were made by arabs before muhammed.
COfee,was from a MONK btw. Egyptians did astronomy.

a reply to: AlienBorg

its only fast growing because they pump out babies like no tomrrow.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: AlienBorg

Revealed by who?
Created is the right word.

Revealed by Mohammud, the prophet, himself.

There's really nothing new in there. Mohammud didn't create monotheism. It's all just a reiteration of Old Testament monotheism stuff. Have you read Jeremiah? Daniel? Zacharia or Ezekiel? Polytheism was not looked on favorably by any of the Old Testament prophets. Monotheism was the global trend at the time, and Mohammud took his people there, and his family dynasty rode that wave and are still riding it from on top of the world. en.wikipedia.org...:House_of_Hashim

It is claimed that is revealed? Because Mohammed couldn't reveal anything... Created or made up it's probably much better words to be used. Who revealed to Mohammed? God?

Islam is a new religion based upon the old testament but as I said it has many influences from Christianity, Judaism, local Arab traditions, the Persians, and zoroastrianism. With the old testament having appearing historically in the bonze age.

But Islam has remained very regressive and it's anachronistic and backward ideology with nothing in common compared to the Western societies. The only thing they seem to know well, is what is a man/woman, there are oy two genders, and you can never transition between genders. At least they know the basic but nevertheless important stuff...