Spike Protein Detox .

a reply to: thedeadtruth

Sorry but that is just one big fat lie. ( I am a Mortician, I am literally in the perfect position to know )

Interesting well I'm a 'Chemical Biological Specialist with a triple PHD in Virology, Pharmacology and Chemical Biology ' I'm also an assistant Directer at the CDC and I sit on the board at NIH I'm personal friends with Anthony Fauci.

In TRUTH I'm none of those things but it's super easy to play pretend on the internet , What I really am is a Paramedic or at least I was before the " Pandemic " .

I'm not calling you a liar perhaps you are a Mortician and perhaps not , either way I've seen many many videos of Morticians making claims that are directly opposite of yours .

, so 100s of million of people dropping dead soon after taking a vaccine would have been impossible to hide.

No mate not 100's of millions just dropping dead BUT the vaccine did kill people and it killed a lot more than we will ever no because of simple misinformation.

I mean the list of outright lies told by anti-vaxxers during the Pandemic far outweigh what they accuse the drug companies of. ( and most of the accusations of "lies" told by the drug companies were in fact just highly uneducated and ignorant adults not understanding basic high school science subjects.

Sure there was plenty of Anti-Vaxxer hyperbole I don't deny it . That being said the Hyperbole from the media and literally everyone else pushing the vaccine was waaaaaaaaay worse than anything pushed by anti-vaxxers and yet you completely ignore this ?

A designer Virus leaked from a lab either advertently or inadvertently who knows but what we do know is every treatment for this Virus that was not the Vaccine was demonized and called poison .

Think about it mate , If the MSM had not stirred so much chaos concerning Covid-19 would we have even known there was a virus to worry about ? Would we have needed a Vaccine ? Would We have needed to flat-line the American Economy for no apparent reason ?

originally posted by: thedeadtruth
a reply to: Itherael

You think a scare scammeranti-vaxxer actually cares about peoples health.

So far all my dealings with those types of people is their ego, and refusing to acknowledge all the big predictions ( which were in fact well worn scare scam lies by well known con-artists) are their #1 and only concern.

Yes, even if it kills people.

So Anthony Fauci had our best interest at heart ?

and Dr.Robert Malone and everyone else like him who spoke up were just Con-Artist ?

Right

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Your immune system will attack and destroy foreign stuff like the spike protein. That's what it does.

And the cell that it is expressed by......does that not also get destroyed?

Yep, that's why a lot of people have aortic dissections after your immune system chews a hole through your aorta while trying to destroy this spike protein producing cells.

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

Where do these new 'spike protein producing cells' come from?

twitter.com...


I know you won't read it, and keep repeating the same pharma propaganda over and over again from 2020.

Ive seen you disappear when you have been proven wrong only to return months later with the same nonsense.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Notice not one star....... even LordAhriman didn't give him a star

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Your immune system will attack and destroy foreign stuff like the spike protein. That's what it does.

And the cell that it is expressed by......does that not also get destroyed?

Yep, that's why a lot of people have aortic dissections after your immune system chews a hole through your aorta while trying to destroy this spike protein producing cells.

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

Where do these new 'spike protein producing cells' come from?

twitter.com...

I know you won't read it, and keep repeating the same pharma propaganda over and over again from 2020.

Ive seen you disappear when you have been proven wrong only to return months later with the same nonsense.

The tweet mixes up details of the different components of the vaccines.

The mRNA is different than the spike protein, and this is also different to the lipid encapsulation. They are three separate things.

The lipid encapsulation allows the mRNA to enter the cells. The lipid protects the mRNA from chemical breakdown until it encounters the wall of a cell, where is adheres and weakens the barrier, allowing the mRNA to enter the cytoplasm.

The mRNA enters the cells and generates the spike protein in the ribosomes of the cell, and is consumed in the process of transcription, where it produces the spike protein. The mRNA itself does not replicate and each individual strand of mRNA only codes for a single spike protein. Typically, the mRNA is consumed in less than 48 hours (as is mentioned in the second article linked in the tweet, where they encoded the indicator luciferase in mRNA and delivered it in a similar lipid to the vaccine).

The spike protein on its own has no function in the cell, and is ejected from the cell as part of normal biological clean-up. The spike protein of itself does not replicate. In a virus, the spike protein would replicate when the virus replicates, but without the rest of the virus, there is no mechanism to produce more of the spike protein. So, the number of spike proteins produced are limited to the number of mRNA coding fragments in the vaccine dose administered.

Outside the cell, the spike protein is identified as 'foreign' by the immune system which generates antibody markers specific to it. These antibodies bind to, and flag the spike protein for destruction by other parts of the immune system. The process of developing antibodies and then destroying all the spike proteins can take up to two weeks (as is mentioned in the first article linked from the tweet). Once the process of producing antibodies is established, the attack upon the spike protein is very rapid. Usually, even large amounts of spike proteins (such as those in an established viral infection) would be dispensed with in days.

The lipids that protected and carried the mRNA into the cells can last a long time in the body, dependent upon the cell type it is stuck to (in much the same way as other fats last a while). The lipids do not replicate and the minute amounts in each dose means that they essentially just sit there for a while (months?) but are otherwise inert biologically.

Neither of the articles linked from the tweet disagree with anything I have previously posted in this thread. They do disagree with the text of the tweet itself.

a reply to: chr0naut

Here is a study that found that:

SARS-CoV-2 spike mRNA vaccine sequences circulate in blood up to 28 days after COVID-19 vaccination
First published 17 January 2023

To our knowledge, our study is the first to detect Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccine sequences in blood after vaccination, and therefore provides new knowledge regarding the timeframe in which the mRNA can be detected.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Notice not one star....... even LordAhriman didn't give him a star

Yes, I feel so incredibly unpopular. But in my defense, that particular post was repeating what I had posted previously, which did get a few stars.

'Cause it's all about popularity.

Perhaps you aren't eating enough feces. I mean, 10 billion flies can't be wrong, can they?

a reply to: chr0naut

Was that particular post really a repeat of what you had posted previously?

Your previous post didn't mention that all traces were gone in days......

Your immune system will attack and destroy foreign stuff like the spike protein. That's what it does.

But this one did:

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

Where do these new 'spike protein producing cells' come from?

The two posts are are hardly the same.

a reply to: chr0naut

Yes, I feel so incredibly unpopular.

Don't take it personally........it's not about you.

It was what you posted that was not popular.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: chr0naut

Here is a study that found that:

SARS-CoV-2 spike mRNA vaccine sequences circulate in blood up to 28 days after COVID-19 vaccination
First published 17 January 2023

To our knowledge, our study is the first to detect Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccine sequences in blood after vaccination, and therefore provides new knowledge regarding the timeframe in which the mRNA can be detected.

Definitely an interesting study, and note that the authors speculate that the reason for the persistence of the mRNA traces was that they are still encapsulated in their lipid (LNP) coating (paragraph 4 under the title "Discussion").

... but perhaps there may be a reason for what was observed, due to all subjects of the study having hepatitis?

Oh, look:

Different kinetics for the hepatic uptake of lipid nanoparticles between the apolipoprotein E/low density lipoprotein receptor and the N-acetyl-d-galactosamine/asialoglycoprotein receptor pathway

Take special note of the section headed: "LNPs that are taken up by the different cellular uptake pathways show different blood half-lives".

As the liver is predominant in clearing the blood of wastes, a slowness in affinity for LNP binding in the liver would specifically mean that those LNP's remain in the blood stream for longer, and this would probably be more notable in those of impaired liver function (i.e: those with hepatitis).

a reply to: chr0naut

Was SARS-CoV-2 spike mRNA vaccine sequences found to be circulating in the blood up to 28 days after COVID-19 vaccination in the study?

Has any study been done since to check if it occurs on regular people?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: chr0naut

Was SARS-CoV-2 spike mRNA vaccine sequences found to be circulating in the blood up to 28 days after COVID-19 vaccination in the study?

Has any study been done since to check if it occurs on regular people?

There have been numerous studies regarding the persistence of mRNA and DNA, and specifically delivered inside an LNP encapsulation. The technology was known prior to availability of the COVID-19 vaccines. Pfizer and numerous others, like those in the second link in Virtuoso's linked tweet have used mRNA encoded to produce the indicator luciferase and LNP encapsulated, to show the persistence of mRNA in study participants. Studies which have suggested that in average people, the mRNA dissipated within 48 hours.

All mRNA consists of the same 4 bases and so chemically are quite similar. Therefore the luciferase test would be rationally a good indicator of the persistence of any other mRNA sequence.

Here is an earlier study looking at the persistence of mRNA: Messenger RNA regulation: to translate or to degrade

To some extent, it is unlikely that researchers would be proposing papers about things they believe to be implausible. So it isn't remiss of them to have not generated papers on such things (except to garner some ig-nobel fame, LOL).

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: chr0naut

Was that particular post really a repeat of what you had posted previously?

Your previous post didn't mention that all traces were gone in days......

Your immune system will attack and destroy foreign stuff like the spike protein. That's what it does.

But this one did:

How do you get a lot of 'spike protein generating cells' if they are gotten rid of by the immune system, protein and cell, in days?

Where do these new 'spike protein producing cells' come from?

The two posts are are hardly the same.

To my mind, I was expanding upon the theme of previous posts, to clarify the details of my argument. It would not have been rational to spam the thread by simply saying exactly the same thing, in exactly the same way.

a reply to: chr0naut

Your link is a study from 2008.....do you have any recent studies that have been done? Or any after this discovery:

This was first published 17 January 2023:

To our knowledge, our study is the first to detect Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccine sequences in blood after vaccination, and therefore provides new knowledge regarding the timeframe in which the mRNA can be detected.

It goes on to say:

 A future prospective study to establish the half‐life of mRNA vaccines in vaccine recipients could be performed using mRNA vaccine‐specific PCRs. These findings are interesting and should lead to further research into the design of LNPs and the half‐life of LNPs and mRNA vaccines.......

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: chr0naut

Your link is a study from 2008.....

As I wrote, it was an earlier study.

do you have any recent studies that have been done?

Yes, the Pfizer studies submitted to the FDA and the Australian study of the Pfizer vaccine, that was linked in the Tweet that was itself linked by Virtuoso.

Or any after this discovery:

This was first published 17 January 2023:

To our knowledge, our study is the first to detect Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 mRNA vaccine sequences in blood after vaccination, and therefore provides new knowledge regarding the timeframe in which the mRNA can be detected.

It goes on to say:

 A future prospective study to establish the half‐life of mRNA vaccines in vaccine recipients could be performed using mRNA vaccine‐specific PCRs. These findings are interesting and should lead to further research into the design of LNPs and the half‐life of LNPs and mRNA vaccines.......

No, I have not seen any other studies of the persistence of mRNA post vaccination and dated later than 17 January 2023.

Here's something you can answer. Is the persistence of mRNA that could lead to the creation of spike proteins, which in turn could lead to antibody creation, necessarily a bad thing? If so, why?

Also, do you think that the concentrations of the mRNA are increasing beyond that in the dose of each vaccine administered. If so, how?

Quercitin. Add that to the others.

originally posted by: wdkirk
Quercitin. Add that to the others.

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a reply to: chr0naut

Here is a more recent (than 2008) study:

"Vaccine mRNA Can Be Detected in Blood at 15 Days Post-Vaccination"
June 2022.

In conclusion, we showed that BNT162b2 vaccine mRNA remains in the systemic circulation of vaccinated individuals for at least 2 weeks, during which it likely retains its ability to induce S-protein expression in susceptible cells and tissues

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
I wanted to post a Spike Protein Detox on ATS I'm sure there are many many people who are interested in Getting the Vaccine out of their body but would never admit it

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K here goes .

1) Nattokinase 2000iu twice a day
2) Bromelain 500mg a day
3) Curcumin 500mg twice a day
4) NAC 600mg a day
5) Glutathione 500mg a day

Exactly how this works or how long is up for debate but I'm reading continue the supplementation for a few months

It's works according to your personal gullibility rating

Them snake oil salesmen never go away