Texas Supreme Court rules against father seeking to prevent 'chemical castration' of his son

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: quintessentone

Read again in the headline.
The boy believes his a girl because his mommy is feeding him that part.

I read the court documents and that's not true.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
There's only one side to this story.

Chemical castration of a child is wrong and should be illegal.

It only requires one parent to consent, and that parent does. Perhaps the father should have considered their incompatible politics a bit more before impregnating a woman he wasn't ready to build a family with.

Seriously?

That's your take on this?

SMH.

Any permanent change of the body to a child that is not an actual medical necessity (child will die without the procedure) should be child abuse under the law.

If they are not old enough (responsible enough) to vote, buy a beer or gun then they have no business allowing anyone to go through this till they are old/responsible enough to make that choice for themselves.

There are limits to what is a parent is allowed to do. They can’t abuse their kids, must provide food and shelter. I mean I could go one for a bit explaining all the things a government doesn’t allow a parent to do to their child. a reply to: TzarChasm

Too many times one parent uses the child(ren) to hurt the other parent. Those types of parents love themselves more than they love their child(ren).

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originally posted by: imitator

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Where is the wife, the child's medical professional, and his child's side of the story?

a reply to: quintessentone

The mother is the one pushing this chemical castration of his not..
That itself should be child abuse..

a reply to: quintessentone

I don't give links to child abusers in the medical profession.


Obviously, you didn't watch the video...

You posted 4 minutes later... the video is over 40 minutes long.

Go watch it... maybe you'll learn a thing or two.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: quintessentone

The mother is the one pushing this chemical castration of his not..
That itself should be child abuse..

The mother is not pushing for anything yet because James, the son, is too young to decide and he sometimes wants to identify as a boy and other times as a girl. Everyone here should look at different sources so as to get the truth. The child, James, has his own independent lawyer (Dunlop). What this case is really about is two different ways each parent feels is the correct way to parent this child.

In this case, the court also appointed an amicus attorney, Stacy Dunlop, to represent the best interests of the child from a more neutral perspective.

For his part, Dunlop has taken a somewhat atypical ground that James is simply “gender fluid,” and that he should continue to be treated as both a boy and a girl depending on how he feels.

Janicek and Hayes have also made a point to emphasize that the mother is not seeking a medical transition, including puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones — a treatment that Younger is concerned will be given in the near future.

Dr. Benjamin Albritton was one of the first witnesses to speak. Being paid to testify by the mother, Albritton was the custody evaluator who spent over half a year writing a report that diagnosed James with gender dysphoria and recommended Georgulas’ approach of “affirmation” and initiating a social transition.

Albritton said that James expressed anxiety about “having to be a boy” when around his father and that he prefers his mother’s home because she lets him “be whatever he wants to be.”

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originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: nugget1

You must be confused i dislike the govt, politics of US.

You must think your country is far superior, since you're only obsessed with the US swamp. Lucky you to live in such a pristine country!

originally posted by: TzarChasm

It only requires one parent to consent, and that parent does.

I know that's the law, and therefore legally this judgment is the "correct" one, BUT it's a crappy law and its statutory precedence doesn't make it morally right. Children and teenagers do not have the knowledge, experience or good judgment to make such a decision. And no one has the right to make such a decision for them.

Perhaps the father should have considered their incompatible politics a bit more before impregnating a woman he wasn't ready to build a family with.

He probably should have. But I think it has just as much to do with inadequate and ineffective conflict management skills -- like a lot of couples who cannot even find a happy medium on trivial matters. Throw something like this at them, and they're clueless and helpless. And, too often, ego and pride get in the way of finding a reasonable middle ground.

Speaking for myself, this never would have been an issue between my husband and I, because we agreed that if one of us said "no" then the answer was no. Period. Even if we divorced. Whether it was playing football or getting a tattoo or medical sex change... Because we agreed that one parent has no more rights than the other parent, and therefore one parent cannot overrule the other parent. So we would have to find other answers and solutions.

This is a very slippery slope with lots of room for abuse.

a reply to: quintessentone

He's a seven year old boy.

What did you know about life when you were seven years of age?

a reply to: quintessentone

“be whatever he wants to be.”

A 7 year old getting to do whatever he wants... gee I wonder which one he will claim to prefer.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: vNex92

This headline is misleading I think.
The real issue started in 2021 when the mother was granted full custody.
I would like to know the reasoning of the judges decision.

The family court system is broken for sure.

You're correct - the title's misleading and the case started in 2019

First, the kids aren't going to be chemically castrated (I've followed this case a bit.) ONE son (not both) wants to be known as a girl named "Luna." At 5 years old, the mom (a pediatrician) is letting him try out the role. No pressure. Kids occasionally go through something like this for a bit (some really have gender disphoria and seek treatment - after their teen years.)

Dad, when he saw "Luna" went absolutely bonkers, chopped of the kid's hair, dressed him in "manly clothes" and by the time he went back to mom, he was very upset and didn't want to go back to dad.

Dad starts saying she's going to chemically castrate the kid (which is bonkers because NOBODY gives them hormones (for the opposite sex) until they're nearly 20. They'll get puberty delaying hormones if appropriate. He's on the warpath, though, insisting that his son is going to be mutilated and (insert emotional, over the top statements.)

The kid's seven now and has been living as Luna for a bit. The kid really doesn't want to go back to dad.

Texas Supreme Court heard his arguments (which don't match with treatment plans or anything) and ruled he had no standing.


Now... I know that he's not going to be surgically castrated/operated on until he's an adult because of what's happening in my family. My youngest granddaughter said she wants to change genders. We are NOT sure of the source of her decision (she's twelve), but we've allowed her a name change at home, gender neutral/boy's clothing, engineering toys (she's a geek, like most of the rest of the family) and to experiment at home and in safe environments to see if this is what she wants. She's getting counseling with professionals who have experience. She's seeing doctors who have experience with transgender kids.

Nobody's giving her hormones or shots or anything. Chest binders, yes, but that's because she asked for them.

When she's a legal adult she'll make a decision and no one in the family is going to have conniption fits over it. And if, once she's an adult, she wants to take a final step and be chemically altered or even surgically altered, that's okay. I'll help her (or him) pay for it.

And I'm sure I've horrified about half the folks here. However, I have transgender friends (both sexes) and an "adopted daughter" who transitioned male and has detransitioned to female now. I have a good understanding of what goes on in the process.



...and I'm sure I've probably horrified several dozen people here. The thing about being an anthropologist is that you also study how cultures express genders (and run into (and even meet) oddities like villages where everyone's child is declared to be a "boy" until a certain age (all of them dress like boys and are treated that way) until they decide at puberty what they'll be. Or societies like Native American societies where "two spirit" people (a spectrum of genders) are usually shamans and healers because they know the view of both genders.

a reply to: TzarChasm

In a video posted to the dad’s website, James is asked, "You’re a boy right?" Heavy reported. "No, I’m a girl." "Who told you you’re a girl?" "Mommy."

And when the CHILD grows up and realizes Mommies are sometimes wrong......?
Never thought of that , did you ?

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: quintessentone

He's a seven year old boy.

What did you know about life when you were seven years of age?

Well I would never lump all children as having the same gifts and/or wherewithall into that generalization. How I view this is that the father is putting his (fear-based bias?) emotions and needs first, then the child's needs last - plain and simple. Who knows James may grow out of it, or remain gender fluid, who knows?, but if he doesn't or does, then both parents will need to adapt to the reality, whether they like it or not.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: quintessentone

“be whatever he wants to be.”

A 7 year old getting to do whatever he wants... gee I wonder which one he will claim to prefer.

We are not experts in these matters, the mother took him to a doctor, the doctor recommended him to a specialized counsellor, the counsellor gave both parents recommendations of how to handle it.

The mother, a doctor, is following what she perceives to be expert advice to put the child's needs first and I am sure the child is continuing counselling so everyone can monitor this situation. The father seems to only want to bully the child into doing what he feels the child should do and, to me, that is poor parenting.

The judge ruled in the favor of the counsellor's advice (that the mother was following) of how to proceed, which puts the child's wellbeing first, as well the child tells everyone that the father causes him stress from the intimidation and forcing the child to do what the father wants him to do without care for what the child is feeling and experiencing and that is selfish and self-serving for whatever reason.

originally posted by: quintessentone

Well I would never lump all children as having the same gifts and/or wherewithall into that generalization. How I view this is that the father is putting his (fear-based bias?) emotions and needs first, then the child's needs last - plain and simple. Who knows James may grow out of it, or remain gender fluid, who knows?, but if he doesn't or does, then both parents will need to adapt to the reality, whether they like it or not.

Well said.

a reply to: quintessentone

I am not an expert and dont claim to be one, but I have raised 2 girls and now a little boy, all kids have phases and when they get a great deal of positive reinforcement during a particular phase it tends to extend their time in that phase.

Eventually they come through said phase, and there have been a lot of following the "experts" stories out there where people detransition later in life and came to regret the parents and adults in their lives didnt act like an authority figure when it came to permanent life altering choices.

Maybe its a legitimate diagnosis, but the problem is gender affirming care always ends with a transition, and we are coming to understand that in many cases that transition ends in the child being unable to reproduce.