Putin's first address to nation since invasion has been 'delayed'

could only find these two for infighting of rusisian troops and PMC.

here is one Kenzo posted for Something happening in Kherson thread,

Kadyrovites Outbreak War Against Wagnerites In Kherson

and here is one about Spetznaz Brigade and other PMC fight against other Spetznaz and PMC

Internal friction between elements of different Russian conventional forces, special forces, private military company (PMC) workers, and national guard elements may be increasing. An unconfirmed Twitter post, which cited sources within the 22nd Spetznaz Brigade, claimed that relations between Russian Spetznaz units are breaking down, as are relationships between Spetznaz units and PMC elements.[36] The post claims that a conflict between groups from two Spetznaz brigades and a PMC unit turned into an armed fight when one Spetznaz unit sided with the PMC unit instead of the other Spetznaz unit.[37] The Russian military leadership is leveraging PMC elements such as the Wagner Group and Spetznaz as key maneuver elements, and internal firefights between these factions could erode the mutual confidence necessary for troops to cooperate effectively in combat.

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, August 25

as i said if these rumors are true, which i kinda think they might be, it doesn't say a whole lot for russia's military or their, hell you can't even really call the PMC's their just a bunch of thugs that are doing it for the killing and stealing.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

saw this in the comments on the OP sky link, looks like it will be tomorrow at 9 am Moscow time.

Putin's first address to nation since Ukraine invasion to take place tomorrow morning - reports As followers of our live coverage this evening will know, Vladimir Putin was tonight due to deliver his first address to the nation since he ordered the invasion of Ukraine. Although the reasons for the postponement remain unclear, reports later began to emerged that the speech would not take place this evening. Russian media outlet Baza is now suggesting the address will take place at 9am Moscow time tomorrow - which would be 7am UK time. Other Kremlin pool reporters are also offering indications the president will speak in the morning - although as with all things Kremlin-related, uncertainty will remain until we see Mr Putin on our screens. We will, of course, be bringing you live coverage of the address as soon as it does happen.

a reply to: BernnieJGato


Thank you!

That's around 4.5 hours from now.

a reply to: CptGreenTea

The special operation status means that Russia is fighting with one arm tied behind its back. If it goes to full war status with a general mobilization. The enemy's friends are now targets. Going back to the days of the Soviet Union might not be on the cards for a lot of Russians. So it could be a dangerous move considering the general feeling about getting involved in Ukraine. Putin might get taken out. He seems to have WEF connections. If he does get taken out I doubt whether the Generals will pussy foot around with any Minsk agreement. If it is assumed that the Motherland is under threat you can guarantee a big clean-up with everybody behind it.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

#Putin's speech is expected from 9:00 to 10:00 Moscow time on September 21

NEXTA twitter


That` 7:00 to 8:00 in London time i think...

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originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

#Putin's speech is expected from 9:00 to 10:00 Moscow time on September 21

NEXTA twitter


That` 7:00 to 8:00 in London time i think...

That matches my understanding.

People in Russian dont want to end up as Cargo 200 .

A huge jump in Google requests for "retirement from the army" and "how to leave Russia"

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

#Putin's speech is expected from 9:00 to 10:00 Moscow time on September 21

NEXTA twitter


That` 7:00 to 8:00 in London time i think...

Hmm... think ill keep the TV set to Aljazerra tonight (gmt +12 for us), they should have either live or near live broadcast of it hopefully as long as ruZZIa broadcasts that sort of thing in a way other networks can get a hold of it quickly.

Will be an interesting watch, hopefully just the incoherent throat fartings of a mad man.

a reply to: Raggedyman

What makes you think that the eu hasn't been making contingencies for a future without russia?
What makes you think the eu hasn't been making those plans for years?
What makes you think that the eu isn't using russias invasion as an excuse to do something they already wanted to do?
What makes you think that the eu wont let its poor citizens suffer if cutting dependence on russia is good for their rich elites?

"Putin announced partial mobilization in Russia"


That`s from Russian news agency TASS , but lets wait and see ...



Putin announced partial mobilization in Russia

Special military operation change to partial mobilization .


But Vlad ??? i thought there was no war ? So why the mobilization ?


Putin announces partial mobilization for Russian citizens

putin apparently said that NATO is attacking russia with 'nuclear blackmail'.

Then said that he is 'not bluffing about the use of nuclear weapons'.



Has anyone ever heard of NATO 'blackmailing' russia with nukes?

Does he mean our promise to respond if russia nukes anyone?



Anyone still think putin is sane?

a reply to: Kenzo

From what some ruZZian speakers have said, his speech was just wall to wall delusional BS.

Oh and he's threatening nukes... truly this time, honestly, this time its for realz... yeah yeah putler, your track record for truth telling is in the negative numbers currently.

Now to find a copy I can read myself...

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

Has anyone ever heard of NATO 'blackmailing' russia with nukes?

Does he mean our promise to respond if russia nukes anyone?

'You made me pull the trigger of the gun i was pointing at you, so that the gun i think you'd shoot me with if you could cant be used on me' -putler probably

Aljazeera live translation as it was being broadcast. A bit choppy, but hey im sure its not to easy to translate live (so might be a little inaccurate in places) lol.




edit:- was a prerecorded speech, he cant even do it live lol.

A slightly better smoother translation.

a reply to: Kenzo

"Putin announced partial mobilization in Russia"

I'm guessing he had to fight hard for that concession which is why his announcement was delayed , a partial mobilization rather than the general mobilization he wanted says to me Putin doesn't have the power he had at the start of his "special operation" and the Kremlin are growing weary of this calamity.

a reply to: gortex

Their gonna make a land grab with what they currently hold, with referendums (lol yeah as if they can be trusted) for joining ruZZia and annex the areas... then if Ukraine attacks or continues to fight in them they can lay full claim that ruZZian land is being attacked, and use whatever they consider suitable retaliation in response.

Some think that due to his words it could be construed that any western weapon used against 'ruZZian' people or land would allow them full justification to respond how ever they see fit towards said countries the weapons came from.

Utter insanity... as people say, 'go ahead, # around and find out'

a reply to: gortex


He sure wasn't selling his speech with the confidence of previous speeches.





I had the same suspicion

I'm glad you posted it first, I thought I'd lost control of my CT side again...

a reply to: BigfootNZ

There gonna make a land grab with what they currently hold, with referendums (lol yeah as if they can be trusted) for joining ruZZia and annex the areas... then if Ukraine attacks or continues to fight in them they can lay full claim that ruZZian land is being attacked, and use whatever they consider suitable retaliation in response.

Holding referendums in areas being retaken by Ukrainian troops is indeed a desperate ploy but as the result of those elections won't be recognised by anyone other than Russia it will be little more than an exercise in futility.