Undeclared US War on Russia- World War III Is Here!

originally posted by: TacoLoco75
Stop it. We are not defending democracy. You should have stopped at special interests. That’s all this is. Ukraine is not a democracy. It’s a piggy bank for US politicians and there family. a reply to: darkbake

It's a country -- with thousands of people.

Being invaded by a Bully who thinks he can do whatever he wants.

Once the Bully gets what he wants -- who's next?

a reply to: Josua88

We should not be involved, aside from humanitarian aid, as this has just too much potential to turn nuclear.

a reply to: rickymouse

Yup I stocked up as soon as this cluster hump kicked off.

a reply to: Annee

We can feel bad for the people there without funneling almost $1 Billion dollars to the most corrupt country in Europe.
A country that harbors state sanctioned Nazis.

All while we're in the midst of the worst economic period of our country in modern history.

a reply to: Josua88

> Undeclared

> confidently says it's here

I've heard that one many times.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Annee

We can feel bad for the people there without funneling almost $1 Billion dollars to the most corrupt country in Europe.
A country that harbors state sanctioned Nazis.

All while we're in the midst of the worst economic period of our country in modern history.

And who has decided it is the most corrupt country in Europe?

The USA has Nazis. Probably every area in Europe has some group with Nazi ideology.

To my knowledge - in following this -- there were no Nazis as described by Russia.

And NO!!!! You do not let the Bully have free reign even if it costs $1 billion.

a reply to: Annee

And NO!!!! You do not let the Bully have free reign even if it costs $1 billion.

A well thought out opinion....clearly......

No way this could ever backfire......ever....

They should’ve just let Ukraine join NATO in the first place. It would’ve at the least saved all us tax payers a lot of money, even if you aren’t concerned of the innocent causalities of this whole bs war.

Russia never would’ve had the balls to invade Ukraine in the first place, if the west had of just put boots on the ground when it became clear that an attempted invasion was inevitable.

originally posted by: darkbake

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: darkbake
We have had proxy wars with Russia before and never went to war with them. The U.S. needs to stand up for the West's interests and protect Democracy. Although I realize Republicans left the Democracy train a long time ago and would rather have a dictatorship.

Just replace the word "Republicans" with "Democrats" and I'm with you all the way!

You are saying we have common ground? You are against Russia as well?

Absolutely! I hope Russia fails, but frankly, I also hope Russia can make amends and get back into the swing of things. Not that I am in favor of more oligarch super yachts and the abject corruption that goes along with it, but the average Russian citizen wasn't doing too badly before this unfortunate invasion. This has set back Russia a couple of decades. I also have this sneaking suspicion that we are all being hoodwinked here by some folks with an agenda, but I doubt rounding up the usual suspects will shed any real light on thee subject.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Annee

And NO!!!! You do not let the Bully have free reign even if it costs $1 billion.

A well thought out opinion....clearly......

No way this could ever backfire......ever....

Well then it will backfire on all the other countries who felt the need to stop the bully Putin.

a reply to: Annee

Just the taxpayers Annie.

Just the taxpayers.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Thats a massive discussion and argument.

Suffice to say, Ukraine was never going to join NATO based off many things.

However that didnt stop the west from holding it over their heads and in Russias nose.

Dude

Read the Budapest memorandum

The USA has an obligation to defend Ukraine internationally recognised for a very long time now

WWIII starts when China attempts to invade Ukraine

That’s already set in stone

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Annee

Just the taxpayers Annie.

Just the taxpayers.

We are a global world.

Countries are not isolated entities anymore.

I'm an atheist paying taxes for school voucher for religious education. Let's cancel that.

a reply to: Annee

Delflect and pivot?

Na.

If countries arent isolated then why the hubub pver the Ukraine border......?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Annee

Delflect and pivot?

You were the one who first complained about spending taxpayers' money.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Annee

If countries arent isolated then why the hubub pver the Ukraine border......?

Commerce is not defined by borders.

WW3 has been here for longer than the Ukraine Invasion.

WW3 is a war of technology, of resources, of information.

Look at the deals countries are making with 3rd world countries that a resource rich (rare earth minerals, oil, gas etc) that don't have the ability to harvest it themselves (China's Belt and Road Initiative is an example here)

The blatant theft of IP and technology from companies. Foreign backed companies "investing" into up and coming tech firms, only to mine the servers or all the data, siphon it back to their governments, while crippling that company (hytera aquiring Norsat)

Proxy conflicts. Funneling resources into a 3rd party to wage your war of ideology against your enemy, while maintaining an arms length from direct conflict.

We won't see a direct engagement between world super powers in WW3, we will see the supply of material and training to 3rd parties who will engage in that conflict, while the big 3 (West, Russia, China) do all the technological cloak and dagger fighting.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Annee

If countries arent isolated then why the hubub pver the Ukraine border......?

Commerce is not defined by borders.

False.

Thus sanctions, embargos, tariffs etc.

originally posted by: BalderAsir
WW3 has been here for longer than the Ukraine Invasion.

WW3 is a war of technology, of resources, of information.

Look at the deals countries are making with 3rd world countries that a resource rich (rare earth minerals, oil, gas etc) that don't have the ability to harvest it themselves (China's Belt and Road Initiative is an example here)

The blatant theft of IP and technology from companies. Foreign backed companies "investing" into up and coming tech firms, only to mine the servers or all the data, siphon it back to their governments, while crippling that company (hytera aquiring Norsat)

Proxy conflicts. Funneling resources into a 3rd party to wage your war of ideology against your enemy, while maintaining an arms length from direct conflict.

We won't see a direct engagement between world super powers in WW3, we will see the supply of material and training to 3rd parties who will engage in that conflict, while the big 3 (West, Russia, China) do all the technological cloak and dagger fighting.

Excellent!

Too bad Putin chose archaic empire rebuilding.