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House passes Assault weapon ban

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posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies



Black guns matter.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 08:50 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

intermediate cartridge, with select fire. This is an old argument, try not to be a fudd.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: cmdrkeenkid
a reply to: AaarghZombies



Black guns matter.


OK, first of all, it's a .223. Which is about 2 steps above a BB gun.

Secondly, even I can see that some of those are classic hunting rifles with a low capacity internal magazines, and others are tactical rifles capable of taking accessories such as high capacity external magazine, suppressors, and in the case of the last one, a bump stock and a forward pistol grip.

You can trick some of them out to be covered by the new bill. Out of the box, they're just deer rifle.

(Yeah, my bad, they all can take external magazines).


edit on 30-7-2022 by AaarghZombies because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

They are all the same platform, all taking removable magazines, just the mini14s on the left dont have mags inserted in the picture.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: SonOfThor
a reply to: AaarghZombies

They are all the same platform, all taking removable magazines, just the mini14s on the left dont have mags inserted in the picture.


I'll take your word for it on the magazines.

Funny that, how the classic rifles don't have the mags in, but the ones that "look" like military ones do. I suspect that whoever posted the original image probably left them out deliberately for people like me who don't buy Ruger.

I'm standing by the rest of my comment. The tactical versions might technically be "the same platform" but they can be tricked out with things like suppressors, muzzle break, forward pistol grips and bump stock, which would significantly boost their lethality when shooting in a closed area.

Plus, they're still .223.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: cmdrkeenkid
a reply to: AaarghZombies



Black guns matter.


Update the image to show that the first 4 rifles all can take external magazines. I suspect that the mags were left out deliberately to make them look less scary than the others.

Now post a bigger version so that we can zoom in and take a proper look



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: cmdrkeenkid
a reply to: AaarghZombies



Black guns matter.


OK, first of all, it's a .223. Which is about 2 steps above a BB gun.



I stopped reading right there.

You are out of your depths on this topic.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

A .223 is 2 steps above a BB gun? That's news to me. I didn't know there were .22 caliber BB guns that can push a BB at 3,100 feet per second. But realistically, this bill shouldn't make it through the Senate, but it probably will, because none of them care about the Constitution. The question is how they plan to enforce it considering there are more gun owners than there are of them. It's almost a guarantee that this would die at SCOTUS, but how long will it take to make it in front of the courts?
edit on 30-7-2022 by deadlysyn because: Autocorrect



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 11:02 AM
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Gotta love the vague language used so it's much easier to take a mile when they ask for an inch..

What exactly is high capacity?
What is an assault weapon?

Right up there with fair share and common sense...👎



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: AaarghZombies

Not only was the modern .223 cartridge designed with military requirements at mind, it was the initial cartridge used for the M16A1. There are a couple of key differences between the modern .223 civilian round and the modern 5.56 chambering of M4 carbines and other weapons, however, they are so minor that there is a .223 Wylde chambering that will allow you to use both in the same tool. Even without, you can fire a .223 in an M4 carbine chambered for 5.56 without many issues.

The main defining characteristic between the two rounds is the chamber pressure. The lower chamber pressure of a .223 actually makes it more accurate, thereby making it the round of choice for competition over the 5.56. Either round in the chamber of a well-maintained tool, in the hands of a competent shooter, will get the job done.

A BB is not in any way close to a .223 in terms of penetration, accuracy, or range. That is a verifiable FACT.

You can post your drivel here as much as you want, but you are fooling no-one. Which, I can only conclude, makes your job meaningless.

What you fail to acknowledge is that the reason these bans are put in place is to take firearms out of the public's hands so they are a lesser threat to the government. Taking firearms away does not lower crime, therefore, these bans are only paying lip-service to the tragedy's that have taken place, false flag's or no, and only work to make the public more docile in the event of martial law or a post-Agenda 2030 world.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 11:33 AM
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Ah but, that's why the ambiguity of the law, the grey area. Just who decides what constitutes an assault weapon and what doesn't. One mans assault weapon is another mans hunting rifle, but the crunch is YOU don't get to decide, THEY do.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: andr3w68

The chamber pressure difference may also come down to differences in testing methods. The civilian .223 has been measured closer to the middle of the case while the military 5.56 was measured at the case mouth. From what I remember, different types of measuring tools were also used in both cases. I don't know if anyone has tested both rounds using the same method to compare differences, but they may be closer to the same for all we know. One other difference is the leade in the chamber, between the case mouth and the rifling. It's longer in 5.56 to compensate for the longer, heavier projectiles the military uses.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
OK, first of all, it's a .223. Which is about 2 steps above a BB gun.


Enough people already addressed the ignorance of that statement, but I thought it was funny enough to quote again. Thanks for the chuckle!

Here's a link to the image you requested in your other response.

files.abovetopsecret.com...

I didn't make the image, so I can't speak to why the mags were left out. However, that has also already been addressed.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: homerJ
Boohoo... Guess y'all have to become better shots then.... Haha. Love from Australia, where we don't have assault rifle's because who T F needs one when you can shoot well?


What's an assault rifle?



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies

An assault rifle is an actual Class of weapon


I do not understand this ban as they are already highly regulated.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: cmdrkeenkid
a reply to: AaarghZombies



Black guns matter.


OK, first of all, it's a .223. Which is about 2 steps above a BB gun.



You stopped reading because you realized that I know enough about guns to know that what was pictured were a bunch of low powered deer rifles, not military grade firearms. Even if the tactical model is made to look like something that the military use it's still only a pop gun.

A .223 can take out a deer at about 50 yards, 75 if you're a good shot, but that's about all it's good for. Even then you can't shoot through brush. It's not a weapon of war.

I stopped reading right there.

You are out of your depths on this topic.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: cmdrkeenkid

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
OK, first of all, it's a .223. Which is about 2 steps above a BB gun.


Enough people already addressed the ignorance of that statement, but I thought it was funny enough to quote again. Thanks for the chuckle!

Here's a link to the image you requested in your other response.

files.abovetopsecret.com...

I didn't make the image, so I can't speak to why the mags were left out. However, that has also already been addressed.


I'm tossing up whether or not I should humor you on this one, but the image is fundamentally dishonest.

It's low resolution so unless you already know what the platform is it's difficult to tell what features it has, and leaving the mags off only makes it worse, the image implies that the first few are bolt action rifles, and that the latter are semi automatic.

The fact of the matter is that none of these rifles would be substantially effected by an assault weapon law because they're not assault weapon. There deer gun, with some made up to imitate a military style.

You'd need to add after market parts to them for that, and only the last one can fit a bump stock without modification.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

An assault rifle is an actual Class of weapon


I do not understand this ban as they are already highly regulated.


But most of the parts that you need to convert a semi automatic rifle into an assault rifle aren't heavily regulated. At least not at a federal level.



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
I'm tossing up whether or not I should humor you on this one, but the image is fundamentally dishonest.


Cool story, bro. It presents something you can't move the goalposts for, is easy to understand, and contradicts your talking points. I get wanting to do your best ostrich and pretend it's gone away. Facts are hard.



It's low resolution...


Looks fine to me, both on mobile and desktop. PEBKAC error?



The fact of the matter is that none of these rifles would be substantially effected by an assault weapon law because they're not assault weapon. There deer gun, with some made up to imitate a military style.


So you then you certainly agree that an AR-15 pattern rifle with the exact same features is also a deer gun.



You'd need to add after market parts to them for that, and only the last one can fit a bump stock without modification.


Bump stocks are currently illegal, so that's a moot point.
edit on 7/30/2022 by cmdrkeenkid because: Fixing broken quote tags



posted on Jul, 30 2022 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies

But most of the parts that you need to convert a semi automatic rifle into an assault rifle aren't heavily regulated. At least not at a federal level.


But then they become an illegal weapon.



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