Is Putin second Hitler ? Putin signed over 100 new Surveillance Acts

a reply to: Hecate666

i didn't say i knew you or your pop,

basicly what i said if he was he had a choice, and what hitler was doing was a open secret in germany. in other words if germans said they didn't know what was happening their lying and were willing to go along with it to survive which is just a cop out.

if he fought and pulled the trigger while actually aiming at a person with intent to kill them in support of hitlers and the nazi quest to rule the world, load up jews and other people of race, ethnicity, mental or perceived birth defects to send them to camps or experimental labs to be killed he was no better than the nazi leaders in charge. it was his choice, and if he could live with that to save his own life helping to kill innocent people that never harmed him or his he is no better than them no matter what you claim.

even evil or non caring people can seem to be well adjusted until you look underneath.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: Hecate666
basicly what i said if he was he had a choice, and what hitler was doing was a open secret in germany. in other words if germans said they didn't know what was happening their lying and were willing to go along with it to survive which is just a cop out.

Hah looke he really does know everything. What was it like being 16 in Germany in 1939, please tell us all about it! It's not often we get a chance to talk to someone that was actually there!

i would say hes doing whatever he can to recreate a new Russian empire, that he was never interested in anything the west wants and hes using our response to this war as an excuse to cast off Western influence and consolidate his power. to him sanctions mean nothing and only justifies his position. America is doing exactly what he needs to push his ambitions through.

a reply to: dollukka

Did you read today he's told everybody Ukraine has MUTANT soldiers made in secret labs, thats why its taking so long?

Someone needs to "assist" him in relocating...

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Heard about it. I wonder if whole russia is suffering of Stockholm syndrome, it is so stupid as it gets. There must be something added in drinking water in Russia

This time, however, the Kremlin’s new accusations against Kiev appear too absurd even for Putin’s propaganda machine. According to the Russians, in fact, many operations of the Muscovite army would not have obtained the desired results because, the Ukrainian troops would have been transformed into superhuman killing machines during “secret experiments” in Ukrainian biolabs run by the Americans.

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originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: Hecate666

not knocking your pop, but for me if you fight for something you know is wrong and well known to be happening your just as bad as those who are for it.
no one can force you to do something, it is always your choice, although your choices maybe be limited you can always find a way to avoid it, no matter how unpleasant it maybe.

if you don't you may find it very hard to live with yourself if you have any kind of conscience, there are many a solider that can testify to that.

I genuinely hate it when people post like this - no disrespect.

The times were very different. You either did what you were told or you would either die or be sent to a concentration camp and, likely, die.

You couldn’t just say no, I don’t fancy a stint in the Third Reich. You did what you were told and if you had a family you did what you had to do. Conscientious objection was not a thing.

Personally I feel for all who have fought in any wars on both sides. Winning doesn’t mean you are automatically right. It doesn’t confer the moral high ground. Although, in terms of WW2, moral superiority over an evil regime like the Nazi’s was far easier to achieve. There were good people in Germany, like everywhere else.

Has Putin signed more surveillance Acts Than Obama?
You all seem to have forgotten how bad obama was.
obama eve signed a act so the could do Any propaganda they like.

a reply to: andy06shake

What about the corporate dictatorship. You support that.. 1 million dead in Iraq mostly women and children...

a reply to: purplemer

What about the corporate dictatorship. You support that..

I think you may find i don't support anything of the sort.

1 million dead in Iraq mostly women and children...

I don't have a clue as to the numbers, rip to the poor sods.

a reply to: dollukka

Considering Vlads been around shirtless since his KBG days, seems he shoulda learned something. Apparently, Im wrong. So is he.

Seems way outta touch. Yep. Maybe your right. Heavy minerals, hard water...and they have LEAD still all over Mother Russia!

He is not the second Hitler, but he is in line with all the other dictators, a paranoid carbon copy West-Jealous.

a reply to: andy06shake
The thing about this is that you never know what propaganda the soldiers are being fed. That propaganda may have these soldiers believing that they are doing these actions for a righteous cause.

a reply to: andy06shake

Sorry my misunderstanding.. Happy days

:-))

a reply to: purplemer

No bother purplemer mistakes happen.

You have a nice day.

a reply to: Perfectweaponinc

The thing about this is that you never know what propaganda the soldiers are being fed.

What kind of propaganda could possibly justify the mass murder and execution of countless civilians???

That propaganda may have these soldiers believing that they are doing these actions for a righteous cause.

You might want to look at what took place where the likes of Operation Barbarossa is concerned or the siege of Stalingrad Perfectweaponinc before coming away with statements like that, because there was nothing righteous about the Nazi cause.

en.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=The%20German%20armies%20eventually%20captured,the%20Slavic%20population%20through%20starvat ion.
www.britannica.com...

In a certain topic of similar content, I translated the law On control over the activities of persons under foreign influence - www.abovetopsecret.com...

After that, everyone fled the topic because it turned out that there was nothing to discuss and there was nothing to shed crocodile tears about.

Therefore, I decided in this thread to translate the law that is mentioned in it.

publication.pravo.gov.ru...

On the Russian Movement of Children and Youth

The law was adopted by the State Duma on July 6, 2022

The law was approved by the Federation Council on July 8, 2022

Chapter 1. Basic Provisions
Article 1 Subject of regulation of this Federal Law
This Federal Law defines the legal status, goals, organizational and property bases for the activities of the Russian movement of children and youth (hereinafter referred to as the Movement).

Article 2 Legal status of the Movement
1. The movement is a voluntary, self-governing all-Russian public and state movement, pursuing the following goals:
1) promoting the implementation of state policy in the interests of children and youth;
2) assistance in the upbringing of children, their professional orientation, organization of leisure for children and youth;
3) creation of equal opportunities for the comprehensive development and self-realization of children and youth;
4) preparing children and youth for a full life in society, including the formation of their worldview based on traditional Russian spiritual and moral values, the traditions of the peoples of the Russian Federation, the achievements of Russian and world culture, as well as the development of their socially significant and creative activity, high moral qualities , love and respect for the Fatherland, diligence, legal culture, respect for the environment, a sense of personal responsibility for one's own destiny and the fate of the Fatherland to present and future generations, and other socially useful goals.
2. The legal status, goals, organizational and property bases of the Movement, including the procedure for reorganization and liquidation of the Movement, are determined by this Federal Law, other federal laws, other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation and the charter of the Movement.
3. The founding document of the Movement is its charter. In the manner prescribed by the Charter of the Movement, internal documents of the Movement, binding on all participants in the Movement, may be adopted. The Charter and internal documents of the Movement must comply with this Federal Law and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation.
4. The Movement has the right to participate in the creation of other non-profit organizations if their goals correspond to the goals specified in part 1 of this article.
5. The property of the Movement belongs to it by right of ownership. The movement is responsible for its obligations with all its property. The Russian Federation or members of the Movement are not liable for the obligations of the Movement, and the Movement is not liable for the obligations of the Russian Federation or members of the Movement.
6. The provisions of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation and the Federal Law of May 19, 1995 N 82-FZ "On Public Associations" apply to the activities of the Movement, taking into account the specifics provided for by this Federal Law.

Article 3 Basic principles of the Movement
The Movement is guided in its activities by the following basic principles:
1) voluntary participation in the Movement;
2) equality of rights of participants in the Movement;
3) taking into account the individual characteristics of the participants in the Movement;
4) continuity and systematic activity of the Movement;
5) the continuity of the activities of the Movement in relation to the participants of the Movement of different ages;
6) transparency of the Movement's activities.

Article 4 Legal capacity of the Movement
1. In order to achieve the goals of its activities, the Movement, in the manner prescribed by the charter of the Movement, has the right to:
1) organize and hold competitions, forums and other events for the participants of the Movement and other citizens, implement the projects of the Movement;
2) to finance the activities of the regional branches of the Movement, the collective participants of the Movement, as well as other organizations, if their goals correspond to the goals specified in Part 1 of Article 2 of this Federal Law, to monitor the efficiency of the use of funds provided to the regional branches of the Movement, the collective participants of the Movement and other organizations;
3) cooperate with international public organizations if their goals correspond to the goals specified in Part 1 of Article 2 of this Federal Law;
4) carry out, in accordance with the legislation on education, the implementation of additional professional programs - advanced training programs, professional retraining programs for specialists implementing the program of educational work of the Movement and programs of other work of the Movement with children and youth;
5) in order to implement this Federal Law, create their own information systems;
6) develop and approve internal documents of the Movement;
7) create branches and terminate their activities, open and close representative offices of the Movement, including those abroad;
8) have the symbols of the Movement (anthem, emblems, flags, pennants and other symbols);
9) engage in other activities in accordance with this Federal Law, other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation and the charter of the Movement.
2. The Movement has the right to carry out entrepreneurial activity, if it is provided for by its charter, only in so far as it serves the achievement of the goals specified in Part 1 of Article 2 of this Federal Law, and corresponds to these goals. The profit received as a result of the entrepreneurial activities of the Movement can be used exclusively to achieve the goals specified in Part 1 of Article 2 of this Federal Law.
3. In order to involve members of the Movement in discussing the issues of managing the Movement and the program activities of the Movement, in accordance with the charter of the Movement, the Movement may create working, expert and other advisory bodies (councils, commissions, groups) consisting of members of the Movement, including minors, and other invited persons.

On the Russian Movement of Children and Youth

Article 5 Implementation of the main activities of the Movement
1. To ensure the achievement of the goals of its activities, the Movement implements the program of educational work of the Movement, programs of other work of the Movement with children and youth (hereinafter also - the work programs of the Movement).
2. The program of educational work of the Movement, methodological and other materials related to this program are developed by the federal executive body responsible for the development and implementation of state policy and legal regulation in the field of general education, together with the Board of the Movement on the basis of an exemplary working program of education and in accordance with the national security strategy of the Russian Federation, as well as the strategy for the development of education in the Russian Federation approved by the Government of the Russian Federation and approved by the Supervisory Board of the Movement.
3. Programs of other work of the Movement with children and youth, methodological and other materials related to these programs are developed by the Board of the Movement together with the interested federal executive bodies, the issues of conducting which are affected by the corresponding program, and are approved by the Coordinating Council of the Movement. These programs, prior to their implementation, are subject to submission to the federal executive body that performs the functions of providing public services and managing state property in the field of state youth policy, to determine their compliance with the legislation of the Russian Federation, as well as to the federal executive body that performs the functions of developing and the implementation of state policy and legal regulation in the field of general education, and other interested federal executive authorities, the issues of conducting which are affected by the corresponding program.
4. Scientific, educational organizations, as well as non-profit organizations, the goals of which correspond to the goals specified in Part 1 of Article 2 of this Federal Law, may be involved in the development and implementation of the work programs of the Movement, as well as methodological and other materials related to these programs. Foreign agents, persons who, in accordance with Article 15 of the Federal Law of January 12, 1996 N 7-FZ "On non-profit organizations" cannot be founders (participants, members) of non-profit organizations, foreign organizations included in the list of foreign and international non-governmental organizations , whose activities are recognized as undesirable on the territory of the Russian Federation, cannot be involved in the development and implementation of the Movement's work programs, as well as methodological and other materials related to these programs.
5. The Movement implements the projects of the Movement, organizes and holds competitions, forums and other events for members of the Movement and other citizens, taking into account their age characteristics in the manner prescribed by the internal documents of the Movement.
6. The Movement, in order to ensure its activities, including interaction between the participants of the Movement, creates an automated information system of the Movement. The procedure for the functioning of this system, including the requirements for technological, software, linguistic, legal and organizational means to ensure its use, the procedure for including information in it and the composition of the information included in it, the conditions and procedure for providing access to information contained in such a system, is determined by internal documents Movements in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation.

Article 6 Support of the Movement by public authorities
1. Public authorities in accordance with this Federal Law, other federal laws, decrees of the President of the Russian Federation and decrees of the Government of the Russian Federation provide support and assistance to the Movement.
2. The Government of the Russian Federation:
1) approves the procedure for granting subsidies to the Movement from the federal budget and the procedure for transferring federally owned property to the Movement as a property contribution from the Russian Federation;
2) approves the procedure for exercising the powers of representatives of federal executive bodies in the bodies of the Movement;
3) coordinates the activities of federal executive authorities and executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation to support the Movement and assist it, including in matters of professional orientation of student participants.
3. The federal executive body, which performs the functions of developing and implementing state policy and legal regulation in the field of general education, exercises the following powers:
1) coordination of the activities of the Movement in organizations engaged in educational activities for the implementation of basic general education programs, educational programs of secondary vocational education, in organizations for the recreation of children and their rehabilitation;
2) participation within their competence in the activities of the bodies of the Movement in accordance with this Federal Law and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation;
3) providing assistance to the Movement on the implementation of the program of educational work of the Movement in organizations engaged in educational activities for the implementation of basic general education programs, educational programs of secondary vocational education, and ensuring the interaction of the Movement with federal executive authorities and executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation on these issues;
4) conducting an examination of additional professional programs - advanced training programs, professional retraining programs for specialists implementing the work programs of the Movement, determining, together with the federal executive body that performs the functions of providing public services and managing state property in the field of state youth policy, the procedure for such an examination , as well as providing, together with this federal executive body, assistance to the Movement in the training of these specialists;
5) sending to the highest executive bodies of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation the program of educational work of the Movement and methodological and other materials related to this program, as well as methodological support for the executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local governments on the activities of the Movement, including on the implementation of the program educational work of the Movement;
6) other powers in accordance with this Federal Law and other federal laws.
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a reply to: turretless

reeducation camps / ie work prisons. just because you put lipstick on a pig doesn't change the fact that it's a pig.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: turretless

reeducation camps / ie work prisons. just because you put lipstick on a pig doesn't change the fact that it's a pig.

You are sick of Western propaganda.

There is a cure!

To do this, you need to visit Russia personally!



I continue the translation of the 6th article.

On the Russian Movement of Children and Youth

4. The federal executive body exercising the functions of providing public services and managing state property in the field of state youth policy shall exercise the following powers:
1) coordination of the activities of the Movement, carried out outside the organizations for the recreation of children and their rehabilitation, organizations engaged in educational activities for the implementation of basic general education programs, educational programs of secondary vocational education, including in organizations that form the infrastructure of youth policy, organizations in the field of culture and sports, other organizations working with children and youth;
2) participation within their competence in the activities of the bodies of the Movement in accordance with this Federal Law and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation;
3) rendering assistance to the Movement on the implementation of programs of other work of the Movement with children and youth and ensuring the interaction of the Movement with federal executive authorities and executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation on these issues;
4) sending to the highest executive bodies of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation programs of other work of the Movement with children and youth (with the exception of the program of educational work of the Movement) and methodological and other materials related to these programs, as well as methodological support for the executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local governments on the activities of the Movement, including on the implementation of programs of other work of the Movement with children and youth (with the exception of the program of educational work of the Movement);
5) rendering assistance to the Movement in the training of specialists participating in the work of the Movement;
6) conducting an examination of training programs for specialists participating in the implementation of other programs of work of the Movement with children and youth, determining the procedure for conducting such an examination;
7) other powers in accordance with this Federal Law and other federal laws.
5. The federal executive body in charge of the development and implementation of state policy and legal regulation in the field of culture, the federal executive body in charge of the development and implementation of state policy and legal regulation in the field of study, use, reproduction and protection of natural resources, the federal executive body responsible for the development and implementation of state policy and legal regulation in the field of healthcare, the federal executive body responsible for the development and implementation of state policy and legal regulation in the field of higher education, the federal the executive body exercising the functions of developing and implementing state policy and legal regulation in the field of physical culture and sports, the federal executive body that implements responsible for the development and implementation of state policy, legal regulation in the field of defense, the federal executive body in charge of the development and implementation of state policy and legal regulation in the field of internal affairs, the federal executive body in charge of public administration in the field of security of the Russian Federation, the federal executive body responsible for the development and implementation of state policy, legal regulation, as well as for supervision and control in the field of civil defense, protection of the population and territories from natural and man-made emergencies, the federal executive body, performing the functions of developing and implementing state policy and legal regulation in the field of tourism and tourism activities, and other federal executive authorities odic, logistical and other support and assistance to the Movement, participate in the education of student participants, their professional orientation, and the organization of their leisure.
6. The executive authorities of the subjects of the Russian Federation carry out:
1) development and implementation of measures to support the Movement (its regional branches);
2) providing support to the regional branches of the Movement, including in their interaction with state and municipal institutions and other organizations;
3) methodological support of local governments on issues of assistance to the Movement, its regional, local and primary branches;
4) support of the Movement in other forms in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation.
7. Under the highest official of the constituent entity of the Russian Federation, in the manner established by the regulatory legal acts of the constituent entity of the Russian Federation, taking into account the proposals of the Board of the Movement, a coordinating (advisory) body is created for interaction with the Movement, its regional, local and primary branches.
8. Local self-government bodies carry out:
1) development and implementation of measures to support the Movement;
2) providing support to primary and local branches of the Movement, including in their interaction with municipal institutions and other organizations;
3) support of the Movement in other forms in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation and municipal legal acts.

On the Russian Movement of Children and Youth

Chapter 2. Participation in the Movement
Article 7 Participation of citizens in the Movement
1. Participants of the Movement may be minors studying in educational programs of primary general, basic general, secondary general, secondary vocational education, higher education, and other persons determined by the charter of the Movement (participants-student), as well as adults who have education not below secondary general and (or) secondary vocational education and participating in the upbringing and organization of leisure of participants-student (participants-mentors).
2. Mentor participants cannot be persons who, in accordance with the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, are not allowed to teach, persons who, in accordance with Article 15 of the Federal Law of January 12, 1996 N 7-FZ "On Non-Profit Organizations" cannot be founders (participants, members) of non-profit organizations, foreign agents.
3. The procedure for admission to the Movement, as well as the grounds and procedure for exclusion from the Movement of the persons indicated in paragraph 1 of this article, are determined by the charter of the Movement.
4. Participants-mentors can perform the functions of counselors, volunteers in the Movement. Mentor participants can also be parents and other legal representatives of student participants. The procedure for performing the functions of a participant-mentor is determined by the internal documents of the Movement in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation.

Article 8 Participation in the Movement of legal entities
1. Public associations that have passed state registration in accordance with the procedure established by law, including all-Russian youth and children's public associations and other non-profit organizations (with the exception of political parties, religious organizations, territorial public self-governments), have the right to become participants in the Movement (collective participants in the Movement), if their goals correspond to the goals specified in Part 1 of Article 2 of this Federal Law.
2. Persons who, in accordance with Article 15 of the Federal Law of January 12, 1996 N 7-FZ "On Non-Commercial Organizations", cannot be founders (participants, members) of non-commercial organizations, foreign agents cannot be collective participants in the Movement.
3. The decision to admit the legal entities specified in Part 1 of this Article to the Movement or to exclude them from the Movement shall be made in the manner prescribed by the Charter of the Movement, taking into account the provisions of this Federal Law.

Article 9 Rights and obligations of participants-students, participants-mentors and collective participants of the Movement
1. Student participants have the right to equal conditions for comprehensive spiritual, moral, cultural, intellectual, professional, social, physical development and self-realization, to identify and develop their talents.
2. Participants-students and participants-mentors have the right to:
1) equal access to participation in the activities of the Movement;
2) elect and be elected to elective positions in the primary, local and regional branches of the Movement and bodies of the Movement in the manner prescribed by the charter of the Movement and internal documents of the Movement;
3) participate in the statutory activities of the Movement, including events held by the Movement;
4) use the symbols of the Movement in accordance with the charter of the Movement;
5) to exercise other rights provided for by the Charter of the Movement and internal documents of the Movement.
3. For active participation in the activities of the Movement and in the implementation of the work programs of the Movement, participants-students, participants-mentors in the manner determined by the internal documents of the Movement, and at the expense of the Movement's funds, have the right to master additional educational programs in organizations engaged in educational activities with which The Movement has concluded agreements on cooperation, for the provision of vouchers for the organization of children's recreation and their rehabilitation, and (or) for other forms of encouragement, determined by the internal documents of the Movement.
4. Collective participants of the Movement have the right to:
1) take part in the implementation of the work programs of the Movement;
2) take part in organizing and holding events for other participants in the Movement and other persons;
3) receive funding in the manner prescribed by the charter of the Movement and internal documents of the Movement;
4) finance the activities of the Movement and its regional branches in the manner prescribed by the legislation of the Russian Federation, as well as the charter of the Movement and internal documents of the Movement.
5. Members of the Movement are obliged to comply with the requirements of the Charter of the Movement and internal documents of the Movement, as well as contribute by their actions to the achievement of the goals of the Movement and its development.
6. Participant-mentors participate in the education of participant-students. The procedure for admission of participants-mentors to the educational work of the Movement is determined by the federal executive body, which performs the functions of developing and implementing state policy and legal regulation in the field of general education. The procedure for the activities of participants-mentors, including the procedure for their training, retraining and advanced training in the field of activity of the Movement, is determined by the internal documents of the Movement, adopted in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation and regulatory legal acts of the federal executive body that performs the functions of developing and implementing state policy and legal regulation in the field of general education.