Solar System Travelling to An Area Much Hotter and Denser Which Could Explain Climate Change.

I find this very intersting. Makes me wonder why we haven't been to any other planets since the 50s moon landing. It seems space exploration has largely ground to a halt. The ISS seems to be the 'ceiling' of things. I wonder if this interstellar cloud might be a concern for their engines and computer guidance somehow?

originally posted by: SortingHat
I find this very intersting. Makes me wonder why we haven't been to any other planets since the 50s moon landing. It seems space exploration has largely ground to a halt. The ISS seems to be the 'ceiling' of things. I wonder if this interstellar cloud might be a concern for their engines and computer guidance somehow?

There was no 50s moon landing but the cold war and the space race played a major role in the later race to the moon landings. Once the space race was over, the impetus for spending such large amounts of money on the space program lost its luster, and had nothing to do with interstellar clouds.

The subsequent colapse of the soviet union ended the space race further removing the motivation for such cold war spending.

Astronauts explain why nobody has visited the moon in more than 45 years

Astronauts often say the reasons humans haven't returned to the lunar surface are budgetary and political hurdles, not scientific or technical challenges.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

It's a private sector thing now which will actually (when feasible) progress at a faster pace than being under government control or public control. They just have to find a use for it (space) besides tourism.

www.spaceportamerica.com...

a reply to: Elvicious1

My backyard...the shade just keeps coming!

Some good info here, thanks!

However, it is not that the solar system is travelling through some unusual region. Instead, it is that some unusual energies are travelling through space and hitting us. From out point of view it looks the same, the effects and results are the same too. Only the mechanism is different.

Similar to what we observe in the Solar System with the Interplanetary Magnetic Sheet (also read a brief description www.plasma-universe.com...), our galaxy has a similar dynamic structure. The period of the galactic current sheet is on much longer time scales though and affects the whole milky way.

The effect is the same and results in the observed changes in our solar system and neighboring star systems.

The ignorance on display here is outstanding.

ATS went from the motto "Deny Ignorance!" to now embracing all sorts of alt right ignorance and disinformation.

There is absolutely no disputing man's activity causing climate change. Anyone who deny's this reality is embracing ignorance!

a reply to: jrod

The Sun and it's environment are 1 million times stronger than anything Mankind can do here on one planet 🤣

a reply to: xuenchen

Yes, which means that their effects should be observable on other planets. Even the moon, which has an extremely thin atmosphere too. But the effects are only noticeable on Earth, which rules out other influences.

Mercury and Venus aren't experiencing this, neither is Mars.

originally posted by: GeosAlien

Now you state that the universe in total is heating up, and that may lead to catastrophic outcome within a period even as short as 80 some years... Did I read that correctly...?? This part seems to me unproven, as in that case we should have proof that the same warming is happening in our solar systems in our milky way, or in our galaxies, isn't it?

Best wishes//GeosAlien

good news for all of us. If this is indeed the case, there isn't a thing anyone can do about it. So live life to the fullest, enjoy every day, and tell your grandkids to charge up those credit cards when it gets really hot.

originally posted by: jrod
The ignorance on display here is outstanding.

ATS went from the motto "Deny Ignorance!" to now embracing all sorts of alt right ignorance and disinformation.

There is absolutely no disputing man's activity causing climate change. Anyone who deny's this reality is embracing ignorance!

this is rich. OP lays out large amounts of data and research, links to explain most of it, but Sammich boy says nope, and that is the end of it. Just for giggles, explain WITH PROOF why the OP is wrong. And not just because Algore gives you a chub.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: xuenchen

Yes, which means that their effects should be observable on other planets. Even the moon, which has an extremely thin atmosphere too. But the effects are only noticeable on Earth, which rules out other influences.

Mercury and Venus aren't experiencing this, neither is Mars.

www.nasa.gov...

newspunch.com...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: xuenchen

Yes, which means that their effects should be observable on other planets. Even the moon, which has an extremely thin atmosphere too. But the effects are only noticeable on Earth, which rules out other influences.

Mercury and Venus aren't experiencing this, neither is Mars.

it is being observable 😎

especially ones with little or no atmosphere to hold anything in 😎

originally posted by: jrod
There is absolutely no disputing man's activity causing climate change. Anyone who deny's this reality is embracing ignorance!

Interesting point of view. Especially because there is plenty of dispute. Unless you a priori disqualify any dispute as fake; then, of course, you can always say that there is no dispute because you ruled any dispute as fake and disqualify it.

However, if you do real science (study the data, create a model with falsifiable results, test these results against observed, real data ... iterate) you see that there are many, many disputes on the manmade climate change paradigm.

But don't come with any climate models. ALL of the current climate models fail to even correctly model the past. Those climate models prove only one thing and that is that they are all incorrect.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

Yes, which means that their effects should be observable on other planets. Even the moon, which has an extremely thin atmosphere too. But the effects are only noticeable on Earth, which rules out other influences.

Mercury and Venus aren't experiencing this, neither is Mars.

Incorrect. All outer planets have experienced drastic atmospheric changes that go far beyond the expected. There have been massive changes on Pluto, Neptune, Uranus:

astronomy.com...
www.livescience.com...
eos.org...

Then there are also direct observations that the solar wind heats up planetary atmospheres. Example Jupiter, but the same mechanism works at the other planets with atmospheres and magnetic fields: solarsystem.nasa.gov...

This is consistent with a relative motion that transverses the solar system, slowly but steadily building up.

a reply to: Torlin

Those climate models prove only one thing and that is that they are all incorrect.

LMAO.

That's what happens when Science becomes $cience.

Cheers

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: xuenchen

Yes, which means that their effects should be observable on other planets. Even the moon, which has an extremely thin atmosphere too. But the effects are only noticeable on Earth, which rules out other influences.

Mercury and Venus aren't experiencing this, neither is Mars.

What are you talking about? i showed articles which affirm dramatic climate change in the form of warming has been going on in most, if not all, planets in the Solar System. Our moon has also experienced such increased warming which is twice that predicted by current theory.

Mars has been experiencing warming as well, alongside other geological changes, just like on Earth.

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A new study based on the observation made by ISRO‘s MOM and NASA’s MAVEN suggests that Mars is losing its atmosphere to outer space at a faster rate. This loss rate, however, is altered by the changes in the upper atmospheric temperature.
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Scientists at the National Atmospheric Research Laboratory, Gadanki, analyzed these measurements and found that Mars’s upper atmosphere is undergoing warming and expansion. As the dust storm slowly engulfs Mars over a month, scientists observed that Mars thermosphere’s neutral densities increased significantly.
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Mars losing its atmosphere at a faster rate

The same thing is happening to Pluto. What's more, on Mars there are giant underwater volcanoes, that like on Earth, have been warming and melting a hidden lake under the ice.

Underground volcanoes on Mars ‘are warming a hidden lake under the ice’

Ironically, underwater volcanoes have been also warming and melting Glaciers in Antarctica.

Underwater volcanoes, not climate change, reason behind melting of West Antarctic Ice Sheet

But the unscientific crowd in ATS, the same ones that ignore and dismiss human biology, the same ones that claim "math is racist so it shouldn't be taught to students", the same crowd that is indoctrinating children to be sexual objects, are the very same people ignoring and dismissing these scientific facts.

Earth is not the only planet in the Solar System undergoing warming. Even moons with an atmosphere have been experiencing warming.

Stop with the conspiracy theories. Although lots of interests do conspire to make it harder to install solar faster, the reality is we don’t have enough solar pv manufacturing to really make a difference.

a reply to: jrod

A bit of an emotional response there, have you ever asked yourself why all the funding for 'climate' derives from one family?

How about why everything leads back to 'the bank for international settlements' (and Chatham House).

"The heart of the issue (for those who need it elaborated) is this: the future of $90 trillion of energy infrastructure investments and the $1 trillion green bond market and the multi-trillion dollar carbon trading market and the $391 billion (and growing) climate finance industry hangs in the balance.

Of course it does. What else explains the convergence of interest in the organizations, structures and mechanisms for global governance that the magical global thermostat narrative affords?

It’s why Enron and Goldman Sachs pioneered the emissions trading swindles (that–surprise, surprise!–are a complete and total fraud from top to bottom).

It’s why General Electric, DuPont, Johnson & Johnson, Pepsi, Siemens, AIG and a host of other Fortune 500/CFR companies joined BP, ConocoPhillips, GM and a host of other oiligarch companies as founding members of the US Climate Action Partnership whose “Blueprint for Legislative Action” became the backbone of the Wall Street-backed Waxman-Markey bill of 2009.

It’s why the Rockefellers and Rothschilds are at the forefront of the climate hysteria.

It’s why over 400 global institutional investors worth over $25 trillion have decided to cash in on the bonanza with their “Investment Platform for Climate Actions.”

Heck, it’s why EDF, Engie, Air France, Renault, BNP Paribas and a host of other oiligarch companies footed 20% of the bill for the Paris conference itself (and why the French government bent over backwards to point out their “green” credentials).

Take just one structural element of the climate swindle: the Green Climate Fund. Never heard of it? Hardly surprising. It’s just the facility through which the UN is expected to be clearing $100 billion in climate funding per year by the end of the decade.


That’s right: $100 billion per year. Every year."


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