Senator Paul Blocks $40B for Ukraine: 'We Cannot Save Ukraine by Dooming the U.S. Economy'

He is not wrong here at all, we can't and we shouldn't and this is but one reason we shouldn't send 40 Billion dollars to Ukraine.

Sending that much aid into an area without American oversight is just asking for it to be embezzled by those in power to do so.

Just like the warlords in Mogadishu took all the aid for themselves and hoarded it, corrupt societies do corrupt things. I don't blame Ukraine it has to be a little corrupt to survive in Eastern Europe, but it doesn't mean the US needs to finance it. ITS CRAZY

Sen. Rand Paul Blocks $40B for Ukraine: 'We Cannot Save Ukraine by Dooming the U.S. Economy

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"My oath of office is to the U.S. Constitution, not to any foreign nation," Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said in a speech on the Senate floor Thursday, as some of his fellow Republicans urged immediate passage of a bill -- this one totaling $40 billion -- to fund U.S. assistance for the situation in Ukraine.

"We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the U.S. economy," Paul said, noting that inflation in the United States is now running at a forty-year high. "Inflation doesn't just come out of nowhere. It comes from deficit spending," he said.

Paul said the $60 billion far exceeds what the U.S. pays for cancer research, building roads and bridges, and even for some federal agencies. And he noted that other NATO allies are stepping up their Ukraine support, so the U.S. doesn't always need to be "the policeman that saves the world, particularly when it is on borrowed money."

In subsequent tweets, Paul said that while he sympathizes with Ukrainians, the $40 billion bill is "frankly a slap in the face to millions of taxpayers who are struggling to buy gas, groceries, and find baby formula."

a reply to: putnam6

Good on Paul.

He's one of my favorite partisan politicians even though he's got a touch too bootlick for my taste from time to time.

If there's an audio clip of a politician suddenly deciding to say something super based though, a good chance its him. I wish he was his father, but he's better than the rest.

Again, we need America first policies.

$40 Billion could go a long way to helping our inner cities and the problems they face, closing our borders, and fixing all kinds of other messed up issues here in the US.

As Tupac said, "We got money for wars, but can't feed the poor" Sure that $40 billion could help that baby formula shortage... but hey, we can find a way to get some to the border for illegal immigrants.

Ukraine will get the money.

I have NO doubt.

Rand had a chance to vote on money for bridges and roads.

He said NO.

So what exactly do you guys want except of course to bitch.

Excellent. And Rand is only the second-best Paul. But even the second-best Paul is still the best Senator in my lifetime. That really says something...

a reply to: MiddleInsite

So what exactly do you guys want except of course to bitch.

After the wars in the Middle East and COVID... I'm leaning to as little spending as possible. But if we do have to spend, it better be here.

Good for him!
We need more politicians like him to fight against the fake administration that stole the last elections.

Ukraine will probably get its next blackmail installment but this is really angering the people!

The fake administration is deliberately trying to destroy the USA and drag us in to a world war.
There master plan is so sophomoric.

They forgot that the purpose of the government is to serve the people, not dictate to the people.

The government is “for the people, by the people and of the people”!

Now is a good time to bring back that old slogan, “ power to the people “.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Rand had a chance to vote on money for bridges and roads.

He said NO.

So what exactly do you guys want except of course to bitch.

Sure, show me a clean bill that was brought for a vote that funded roads and bridges.

He didn't vote no to bridges and roads, just like SCOTUS isn't banning abortion you disingenuous troll.

a reply to: putnam6

...as some of his fellow Republicans urged immediate passage of a bill...

This should read "most of his fellow republicans". Our senate is infected with the same disease our congress is...

REPUBLICRATS!

It is highly likely the bill will pass. To quote George Carlin, "They don't give a f@ck about you."

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Rand had a chance to vote on money for bridges and roads.

He said NO.

So what exactly do you guys want except of course to bitch.

Yea that's what it is. Boy, you got everybody pegged correctly today, Scooter

It is inherently imbecilic and moronic to send 40 billion anything to corrupt countries and expect it to actually get where it needs to be, without large segments being embezzled and drained off.

www.cato.org...

The notion that Ukraine was such an appealing democratic model in Eastern Europe that the country’s mere existence terrified Putin may be a comforting myth to U.S. politicians and pundits, but it is a myth. Ukraine is far from being a democratic-capitalist model and an irresistible magnet for Russia’s groaning masses. The reality is murkier and troubling: Ukraine has long been one of the more corrupt countries in the international system. In its annual report published in January 2022, Transparency International ranked Ukraine 123rd of the 180 countries it examined, with a score of 32 on a one to 100 point scale. By comparison, notoriously corrupt Russia ranked just modestly lower, 139th, with a score of 29.

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10 Facts About Corruption in Ukraine
Corruption: According to Transparency International (TI), as of 2018, Ukraine ranked 120 out of 182 countries in TI’s Corruptions Perception Index, making it the second most corrupt country in all of Europe. A survey from Freedom House also indicated that the level of corruption in Ukraine had only slightly alleviated since the fall of the particularly corrupt Yanukovych presidency in 2014.

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We won't send 40B to ukraine unless at LEAST ten high up government officials have friends of family working in ukraine as consultants to pocket 20B of it off the top.
But considering ukraine is one of the most corrupt nations out there when it comes to embezzling US tax dollars into the pockets of democrats, I have no doubt those people are already in place.

The whole world is helping ukraine right now- there is NO chance putin doesn't see the whole world is essentially at war with russia via ukraine right now. We keep tightening the noose but still buy their oil.

If Russia cuts off their oil exports even for a few weeks, the rest of the world would be screwed.

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originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Rand had a chance to vote on money for bridges and roads.

He said NO.

So what exactly do you guys want except of course to bitch.

I love how you just say what fits your narrative and leave out the rest " Bridges " and " Roads " how altruistic of our Government and the mean old Republican Rand Paul didn't vote for the bill.

But of course you leave out the part where the " Bridges and Roads " spending bill was packed with pork and bull# tax raises and god knows what else they tried to sneak in there . So yes he voted against the Bill , but don't act like it was for no reason.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Rand had a chance to vote on money for bridges and roads.

He said NO.

So what exactly do you guys want except of course to bitch.

It's all deficit spending, and if you'd bother to actually read andprocess, you'll see that that is where the biggest problem is. It's not even in the fact that the money is going to Ukraine; it's that the US DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE MONEY to send.

This "infrastructure" bills are political pork barrel b.s. When you have a bill that purports itself to be about fixing bridges but politicians tag tons of irrelevant pork barrel crap into it, it shouldn't be passed.

Giving money to politicians is like giving cash toa hard partying college student to pay off his enormous accumulated bar tab. You'd be an idiot to think that he'd actually use money to pay off his debt. Politicians are no different. Those is why I vote NO on any tax that comes up for a vote.

The bill was 2,700 pages long, with only a few days to review before voting. Only a portion of the bill directly impacted roads and bridges, with the amount to be spread out over five years, so it really wasn't all about improving infrastructure as the public was lead to believe.
Here's a portion of the bill that was past with the help of a whole lot of RINO's:

What's in the $1.2 Trillion Bipartisan Package
The 2,702-page Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act contains $550 billion in new spending. The $1.2 trillion figure comes from including additional funding normally allocated each year for highways and other infrastructure projects. The new spending includes:14

$110 billion for roads and bridges. In addition to construction and repair, the funding also helps pay for transportation research at universities, funding for Puerto Rico’s highways, and “congestion relief” in American cities.
$66 billion for railroads. Funding includes upgrades and maintenance of America’s passenger rail system and freight rail safety, but nothing for high-speed rail.
$65 billion for the power grid. The bill would fund updates to power lines and cables, as well as provide money to prevent hacking of the power grid. Clean energy funding is also included.
$65 billion for broadband. Includes funding to expand broadband in rural areas and in low-income communities. Approximately $14 billion of the total would help reduce Internet bills for low-income citizens.
$55 billion for water infrastructure. This funding includes $15 billion for lead pipe replacement, $10 billion for chemical cleanup, and money to provide clean drinking water in tribal communities.
$50+ billion for cybersecurity and climate change. This resilience funding will protect infrastructure from cybersecurity attacks and address flooding, wildfires, coastal erosion, and droughts along with other extreme weather events.
$39 billion for public transit. Funding here provides for upgrades to public transit systems nationwide. The allocation also includes money to create new bus routes and help make public transit more accessible to seniors and disabled Americans.
$25 billion for airports. This allocation provides funding for major upgrades and expansions at U.S. airports. Air traffic control towers and systems would receive $5 billion of the total for upgrades.
$21 billion for the environment. These monies would be used to clean up superfund and brownfield sites, abandoned mines, and old oil and gas wells.
$17 billion for ports. Half of the funds in this category would go to the Army Corps of Engineers for port infrastructure. Additional funds would go to the Coast Guard, ferry terminals, and reduction of truck emissions at ports.
$11 billion for safety. Appropriations here are to address highway, pedestrian, pipeline, and other safety areas with highway safety getting the bulk of the funding.
$8 billion for western water infrastructure. Ongoing drought conditions in the western half of the country will be addressed through investments in water treatment, storage, and reuse facilities.
$7.5 bill for electric vehicle charging stations. The Biden administration asked for this funding to build significantly more charging stations for electric vehicles across the nation.
$7.5 billion for electric school buses. With an emphasis on bus fleet replacement in low-income, rural, and tribal communities, this funding is expected to allow those communities to convert to zero-emission buses.

Details matter. At least, they should! Always read the fine print.
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a reply to: putnam6

It's theatre.

Hubris.

PAul knows it will pass next week but now the Sunday talk shows have a topic other than inflation, open borders, gas prices, or the feckless administration.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: putnam6

It's theatre.

Hubris.

PAul knows it will pass next week but now the Sunday talk shows have a topic other than inflation, open borders, gas prices, or the feckless administration.

Of course, it will pass, at least we atleast got somebody saying it's complete and utter BS till it does.

As far as Paul's motivations are you saying Paul's pandering to his base?

Because he is certainly entrenched there and is no need for the prop up.

Most likely he isn't likely to be running for President so who is the theater for?