The European Union Super State a Growing Problem EU Wants Pragmatic Federalism.

EU Politicians are calling for European Super State.

Macron and the Italian PM had both called for complete pragmatic federalism’, eastward expansion for EU. Macron had urged for a political community’ beyond EU.

While using "democratic states" as a scapegoat for power grab.

Macron urges creation of ‘European political community’ beyond EU

Italy PM urges ‘pragmatic federalism’, eastward expansion for EU

Speaking to the European Parliament in Strasbourg on Monday, Macron called his re-election last month a signal that the French had wanted more Europe.

A more Europe would mean a super state in other words EU federalism.
Not surprisingly the Italian Prime Minster had echoed Macron's statement at a speech.

Mario Draghi demanded for a further European Union enlargement eastwards.
What this is consolidating power.


Should Europe further expand upon this idea for some in Asia they could this see as a likely threat.
Even further driving Russia out of Europe and edging Russians closer to China.

Macron Says This Would Take Years?

The current social hierarchy, social issues. European Politicians arent seemingly interested in solving solutions for the problems which they had claimed they would had solved.

There are still migrants arriving into Europe, living costs also rising in Europe.

The European Politicians are more interested in creating an pragmatic federalism EU super state.

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a reply to: vNex92

It is prophesized. The EU will be a super state, a revived Roman Empire.

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The Revived Roman Empire is commonly associated with the fourth beast of Daniel chapter 7. This beast is described as “terrifying and frightening and very powerful” (Daniel 7:7). This ten-horned beast is a prophetic picture of the Roman Empire (verses 19–24), but, as Daniel watches, a little horn rises from the beast, with “eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully” (verse 8). This final horn is the Antichrist, who will somehow be connected with the Roman Empire. Since the Roman Empire has been defunct since the fifth century, we expect it to be “revived” in some way to fulfill the end-times’ prophecies.

The Revived Roman Empire has also been linked to the fifth and final kingdom mentioned in Daniel chapter 2 (Daniel 2:41—43). This passage concerns Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of an image made of various metals. The iron legs represent the Roman Empire, and the feet made “partly of iron and partly of baked clay” (Daniel 2:33) represent the final world empire. The fact that it shares the element iron with the fourth kingdom suggests a connection to Rome, and the ten toes could imply a ten-nation confederacy (matching the ten horns in Daniel 7:20) led collectively by a single powerful ruler.

Other commentators point to Revelation chapter 13, which describes a beast coming from the sea having ten horns and seven heads (Revelation 13:1). This depiction connects it to the fourth beast of Daniel 7, which also has ten horns. Revelation describes this government as “blasphemous” (verse 1) and tyrannical, requiring absolute submission in financial, spiritual, and political matters (verses 4–8). The global power this nation wields is given to it by Satan (verse 2). In this context, the symbols are more easily interpreted as references to a particular ruler and a particular political empire yet to come, rather than some figure of prior history.

a reply to: vNex92

You're aware they're not both arguing for the same progress of the EU?
Macron wants to create a second bloc kind of with countries not actually in the EU but in closer cooperation with it.
And Draghi talks about expansion with tighter military cooperation.
Those are kind of opposing positions.
The EU always has been a federalist body. And a super state.
But here you see a democratic process of elected officials discussing and at some point voting for what approach to take.

Macron Says This Would Take Years?

He says for Ukraine to join the EU would take years.
Again that's why he argues for a second bloc with lower entry restrictions.

Do you really not understand what you're reading? Or are you twisting it on purpose?

a reply to: vNex92

Russia have helped the people of EU want a strong united EU, and due to latest happenings a strong EU does not sound like a bad idea. There where many people that where against EU and NATO before Putins "special" mission.. now everyone is lining up to join.

a reply to: Spacespider
The way currently that the EU its issues with the immigration and social crisis.

The EU wont likely survive in the next few years.

Russia have helped the people of EU want a strong united EU

Which people would be that? you mean those same people responsible for the mess in Ukraine?

now everyone is lining up to join.

Now everyone is lining up to join a ship that would sink with its that the whole EU is ignoring and creating it even more?

As for this everyone you mean those countries like Finland and Sweden?

The same politicians of those countries were already considering of joining the EU before the Ukrainian conflict.

a reply to: Peeple

democratic process of elected officials

I am sure its all democratic process just like it was with Nicolas Sarkozy election.

a reply to: Spacespider

There where many people that where against EU

There is a difference between people and politicians that are in pockets with the US/NATO alignment. There are many Italians who are against the EU over the migration, economic issues.


That issue isn't going to go away.

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Does russia think it has a say in EU, NATO, and U.S. affairs too?

Who will russia invade next?

a reply to: vNex92

What is a democratic process? It means people who are put in a position to participate in political decision making either by career or by being an elected representative make suggestions and have discussions.

May I suggest you educated yourself at least a little before you say dumb things like that?
...every #ing time you post...

a reply to: vNex92

WTH?
You can't even tell the difference between NATO and EU?
...seriously

a reply to: vNex92

The EU / members of the EU have been pushing this from way back in the day so nothing new or surprising.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Peeple

democratic process of elected officials

I am sure its all democratic process just like it was with Nicolas Sarkozy election.

or like Putins elections.

a reply to: Xcathdra

In veiled dictatorship, government elect you!

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: vNex92

Russia have helped the people of EU want a strong united EU, and due to latest happenings a strong EU does not sound like a bad idea. There where many people that where against EU and NATO before Putins "special" mission.. now everyone is lining up to join.

Not all who support the eu policies live in the eu.

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Elon Musk, who is offering to buy Twitter, has given his support to a new European Union law aimed at protecting social media users from harmful content after he met with the bloc's single market chief.

a reply to: vNex92

I feel sad for you and the amount of time you spend making threads in which you attack every single aspect of our life in Europe.

Looks like some deep rooted hate

a reply to: vNex92

If I was Ursula von der Leyen or any one of the other EU 'leaders' I'd be telling both Macron and Draghi to shut the hell up.
Why say and/or propose anything regarding EU expansionism in any shape or form?

Putin is doing a far better job of promoting European unity than the EU ever will.
As long as he keeps up with his invasion of Ukraine and his belligerent war mongering he'll just force countries closer and closer to both the EU and NATO.