Eschatology - End Times Myths

End times myths are relevant now, Johns Mysterious Revelation speaks of four horseman in order of Pestilence, War, Famine, and death, for sure those first two horseman codes are clear after the fact, how can we deny them, Famine next would surely seal it, the world would have to take notice if a world wide famine happens next eh... dandandan!

I perked my ears up to John Rev. as soon as i noticed it was a white horse, golden crown, with syringes and needles to spread a virus, i was like, ok well thats a bit obvious... surely not eh, hmmm

but lets not be biased lets look to see if there are any more myths that can fit into this crazy world at the moment, so i done some wiki research and found these snippets that are also relevant and interesting

en.wikipedia.org...

The Midrash comments:

Six eons for going in and coming out, for war and peace. The seventh eon is entirely Shabbat and rest for life everlasting.[5]

The Zohar explains:

The redemption of Israel will come about through the mystic force of the letter "Vav" [which has the numerical value of six], namely, in the sixth millennium. ... Happy are those who will be left alive at the end of the sixth millennium to enter the Shabbat, which is the seventh millennium; for that is a day set apart for the Holy One on which to effect the union of new souls with old souls in the world (Zohar, Vayera 119a).

Biblical chronology indicates that God completed the creation of the world close to 6,000 years ago. This age is reflected in the chronology developed in a midrash, Seder Olam, but a literalist reading of the Book of Genesis is rare in Judaism.

close to 6000 years ago it says, how close? 2030 or 33 are certainly dates to be considered, for one, some Masons add 1000 to the given date so that would make an end times of 3033 according to a Masonic calendar, Also the age of Jesus death was 33, so the year 33 looks a possible date for me, but if thats the case, would that mean seven years tribultion would have to begin within that time frame, 2023 seems like a good fit but that means that would end in 2030 then could the years between 2030 and 2033 be the three years of darkness? according to God?

does that fit, i dont know im just playing around and picking what fits but i have only used two end times myths and they seem to fit here in this world of high strangeness, now considering Wikipedia has a page of creation myths list with hundreds of different ones, its harder to find a list of end times myths, of which i only really know a few

but heres what wiki has to say about Eschatology...

Eschatology (/ˌɛskəˈtɒlədʒi/ (listen); from Ancient Greek ἔσχατος (éskhatos) 'last', and -logy) concerns expectations of the end of the present age, human history, or of the world itself.[1] The end of the world or end times[2] is predicted by several world religions (both Abrahamic and non-Abrahamic), which teach that negative world events will reach a climax. Belief that the end of the world is imminent is known as apocalypticism, and over time has been held both by members of mainstream religions and by doomsday cults. In the context of mysticism, the term refers metaphorically to the end of ordinary reality and to reunion with the divine. Various religions treat eschatology as a future event prophesied in sacred texts or in folklore.

The Abrahamic religions maintain a linear cosmology, with end-time scenarios containing themes of transformation and redemption. In later Judaism, the term "end of days" makes reference to the Messianic Age and includes an in-gathering of the exiled Jewish diaspora, the coming of the Messiah, the resurrection of the righteous, and the world to come. Some forms of Christianity depict the end time as a period of tribulation that precedes the second coming of Christ, who will face the rise of the Antichrist along with his power structure and false prophets, and usher in the Kingdom of God. In Islam, the Day of Judgment is preceded by the appearance of the Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl, and followed by the descending of ʿĪsā (Jesus), which shall triumph over the false Messiah or Antichrist; his defeat will lead to a sequence of events that will end with the sun rising from the west and the beginning of the Qiyāmah (Judgment Day).

really my aim with this thread is to see if there are more End Myth prophecies that can be connected to whats happening in the world now, so if anyone has any others that are relevant to the thread, especially if they are outside the Abrahamic religions i would love to hear them, or if you can debunk, great

shoot away

a reply to: TempleTenSA

End times myths are always relevant at the start or relative beginning of a new millennium.

As to prophecy well those are self-fulfilling down to the very nature of the beast in question.

You see "an individual's expectations about another person or entity eventually result in the other person or entity acting in ways that confirm the expectations."

There interesting from a sociological standpoint ile give you that.

As to other end times myths the Norse "Ragnarock" springs to mind.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TempleTenSA

As to other end times myths the Norse "Ragnarock" springs to mind.

Well this does fit, very good, thanks
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Someday – whenever the Norns, those inscrutable spinners of fate, decree it – there shall come a Great Winter (Old Norse fimbulvetr, sometimes Anglicized as “Fimbulwinter”) unlike any other the world has yet seen. The biting winds will blow snows from all directions, and the warmth of the sun will fail, plunging the earth into unprecedented cold. This winter shall last for the length of three normal winters, with no summers in between. Mankind will become so desperate for food and other necessities of life that all laws and morals will fall away, leaving only the bare struggle for survival.

3 years of darkness? Famine? Winter is Coming?

The chain that has been holding back the monstrous wolf Fenrir will snap, and the beast will run free. Jormungand, the mighty serpent who dwells at the bottom of the ocean and encircles the land, will rise from the depths, spilling the seas over all the earth as he makes landfall.


Loki breaks free (Ernst H. Walther, 1897)
These convulsions will shake the ship Naglfar (“Nail Ship”[2]) free from its moorings. This ship, which is made from the fingernails and toenails of dead men and women, will sail easily over the flooded earth. Its crew will be an army of giants, the forces of chaos and destruction. And its captain will be none other than Loki, the traitor to the gods, who will have broken free of the chains in which the gods have bound him.

sure seems like Johns Rev had some plagiarism maybe, and giants? is that the Nephilim? Is Loki the Anti Christ, Floods and holy sees?

blowing the Gjallarhorn to announce the arrival of the moment the gods have feared.

Destiny!

Some say that that is the end of the tale – and of all tales, for that matter. But others hold that a new world, green and beautiful, will arise out of the waters. Vidar and a few other gods – Vali, Baldur, Hodr, and Thor’s sons Modi and Magni – will survive the downfall of the old world, and will live joyously in the new one.

awww a happy ending, well for the elect that is...

Thanks Andy i never realised there were so many common themes with Ragnorok End Prophecy and The Bible

a reply to: TempleTenSA

It's all rinse and repeat TempleTenSA.

Take for instance how many organised religious practice have tales of a great flood or deluge.

"What has been will be again, and what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1:9.

Christianity and the other Abrahamic religions are a rehash of what came before which is why they incorporate so many Pagan traditions into their own ideology.

It's not really about Son worship per-say, but Sun worship, well that and blood.

Actually I make the case that the end of the Apocalypse and the start of the 1000 year reign of the saints is April 3 2033 or the 2000th annivsary of the death of Jesus Christ here.

a reply to: andy06shake

Sun worship indeed, the seed in the sky.

cheers

a reply to: TempleTenSA

One of around 200 billion trillion seeds or there about.

If that does not add some perspective I'm not sure what does.

Certainly a humbling thought.

a reply to: andy06shake

and yet only one begotten sun makes it into the egg, microcosm

a reply to: TempleTenSA

Well what came first would seem to be the obvious conundrum there, the Chicken or the Egg?

Our problem being(we have a few of those to contend with really. LoL), and where the arrow of time is concerned, well its rather linear perspective from up here in the macro verse.

a reply to: andy06shake

Ive just noticed you have Nephilim as your tag, i dont know much about them, do you like that Myth?

actually this crazy person said they still walked the earth to me, but he also said that we were all Jesus in the flesh

quack

a reply to: TempleTenSA

I suppose it could be said i was a little fascinated with subject back pre millennium and early 2000s.

Same with "the watchers" "Rephaim" and "Igigi".

I've read a lot of interesting stuff about them, don't know how much veracity was contained within said information all the same.

I was right in to ancient alien and conspiracy stuff in a big way back then, taken a lot more with a pinch of salt these days.

a reply to: TempleTenSA

I will just note this down here

apparently there are four elements, with a fifth element being ether, or Chi, or Electromagnetism, etc there have been many names for the not so certain fifth element, but if there were to be a new world would it evolve through six elements and could i relate these 6 elements to this part of the Ragnarok myth

Some say that that is the end of the tale – and of all tales, for that matter. But others hold that a new world, green and beautiful, will arise out of the waters. Vidar and a few other gods – Vali, Baldur, Hodr, and Thor’s sons Modi and Magni – will survive the downfall of the old world, and will live joyously in the new one.

If Vidar, is Earth Vali is Air, Baldur is light/fire and Hodr is Darkeness,
wrath and mighty

There could be a hint of the new age in there, can see bits just now

a reply to: ntech
what do you think the Lamb is in the Bible?

I know what sheep are but what is the Lamb, thats one i cant quite get yet


any clues

myths.... and religions ------ both forms serve to preserve hidden (occult) knowledge

its my world view that the human collective memory preserved cyclical civilization-ending catastrophe in Myths and Religious 'prophecy'

there must be a kernal of truth-fact in the consensus scenario of world-wide destruction of humanity, with a small group excaping doom to repopulate the world for another period of time

-or else- thats the most & best Theme to twist around for being the King-of-all-people, in all time-lines...
Myth and Religion being the initial conduit to divvy out this knowledge of Spiritual/Super Natural Forces , always unseen


this 1948 cyclical edition of end-times Eschatology is identified as: Armegeddon...(there are several variations of equal status, in different cultures across the globe)


Me, i'm in the advanced technology Aliens camp, that we term Divine Entities with our superstitious/religions notions that Prophecy is to save religious Souls

I see prophecy more as a instruction clues to try to survive the cyclical cosmic event or ELE of ~2046 CE or sooner ?




where are the prophecy clues telling us we stand in the end-times events ?

2014 the 4 horsemen-of-the-Apocalypse era, "year-of-horse"& rider of white horse appears/future pandemic is set-up as Corona-covid-sars

2017 the wonder-in-heavens event/ Virgo constellation/Rev 12 prophecy seen
----- 7 year windows open for both 2014 & 2017 for prophetic events to happen 2014-2021 & 2017-2024 may see rise of GOG and start of WW3

so, the highlights above only reveal 3 particular 'Days' of the End Times the early birth pains consisting of 1260 'Days'~~~~
those days are followed by another 1260 'Days' of tribulation

so theres lots of prophecy to come and those events include the forming of the 10 entity Kingdom of the Beast in the remaining 1257~ 'days' before the tribulation 'days' even start.


many will scoff & hiss, saying Where is He ?
... seeing as how the eschatology theme commenced in 1948, added in 1967, completed in 2017 dec 6th with Trump recognizing Jerusalem
a time frame much longer than the 7 years of doom-gloom for the return of Jesus to be done

a reply to: TempleTenSA

Absolutely awesome thread.

The abrahamic three paint the same picture (with chronological or focal variance).

Jewish - Really dont focus on the antichrist as much as oppositional states. There's is restoration of israel and the chosen under a messianic figure who rights the wrongs and leads the world to peace.

But only after there is a final war against Gog and Magog, two states oppositional to god. They are are alligned with Satan at the end of the 6th millenium. 7th millenium being the messianic age following the defeat of the apostates. Which begins in 218 years. The current year is 5782.

Worth noting "year zero" is 3761 BCE. And morphology within Judaism incorporated a more christian dynamic by the time revelation was written.

Christian - Pretty much the same end as the Jewish one (1000 years of peace), only it focuses majorly on the rise of the antichrist and apostates before that. The sodomy that leads the formerly righteous to perversion. The corruption at the end of the 6th millenium with no specific dates given.

Islam - muslims do essentially the same story, only theres a prophet descended from mohammed who teams up with the Christian Second coming to return to earth and defeat the Al-Masih ad-Dajjal (muslim term for antichrist).

Hindu - Cyclical cosmology. But the end of this cycle is interesting. In Hindu cosmology we are in the final Aeon before it resets. This is the age ruled by Kali. Kali Yuga. Lasts 432,000 years. In this yuga the demon Kali tricks the world into a false narrative in opposition to 10th and final avatar of Vishnu. She will destroy the pillars of dharma and corrupt mankind. And then see above, only cyclical.

Worth noting: Kali Yuga ends in 428,899 CE.

Norse - Ragnarok was the fate of gods. That's what it means. Which also amounts to a great cataclysm that destroys all, including the gods. The world goes into permenant winter and stars dissappear from the sky. The wolves finally catch the sun and moon and game over.

Strangley, they can all almost line up. The hard part is finding the pre-christianized sources. But even pre-christianized ones line up. Lots of destruction forseen.

I agree partly with Theologian Michael Heiser (of Sitchin Is Wrong and Ancient Aliens Debunked noteriety) on that.

All stories come from a like narrative told for tens of thousands of years or built from common experiences in the distant past. Or common fears and assumptions as old our species. Events (like population bottlenecks and ice ages) and tendencies that spead the same types of stories across the planet. At very least a disposition to adopt the same types of stories and warnings against loss of virtue.

a reply to: St Udio


Ancient Aliens is almost a certainty for me, it's logical, but only if the universe is a mass of potential life, if that's the case, humans most certainly have been visited, put it this way, in a thousand years we will have mapped out the galaxy, easy, going by the rate of scientific discovery, and there must be lifeforms billion of years in front of us. so the observable universe would be colonized by now, that's a fact some science guy stated, Musk or someone... but that's going by the narrative that there even is a universe out there, and even that, who can be certain, then what! it doesn't bare thinking, what's the point, you could make your own idea of what is, but I'm babbling thoughts i cant even be arsed entertaining ha

a reply to: Degradation33

This is the age ruled by Kali. Who tricks the world into a false narrative in opposition to 10th and final avatar of Vishnu

Does it say that when the Sun, Moon, constellations Thisia and Jupiter are in conjunction, it will be the end of the world?
This is not such a rare event that happens every fifty years or so.

a reply to: Degradation33

Thanks, I think they may happen cyclically every 1000 years, our history of 500 years ago is largely unknown and what's known is likely mostly lies

im going to look at your thread more though tomorrow as its interesting stuff i didn't know, but tired now, so gona leave it for the night

cheers

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: TempleTenSA

Absolutely awesome thread.

The abrahamic three paint the same picture (with chronological or focal variance).

Jewish - Really dont focus on the antichrist as much as oppositional states. There's is restoration of israel and the chosen under a messianic figure who rights the wrongs and leads the world to peace.

But only after there is a final war against Gog and Magog, two states oppositional to god. They are are alligned with Satan at the end of the 6th millenium. 7th millenium being the messianic age following the defeat of the apostates. Which begins in 218 years. The current year is 5782.

Worth noting "year zero" is 3761 BCE. And morphology within Judaism incorporated a more christian dynamic by the time revelation was written.

Christian - Pretty much the same end as the Jewish one (1000 years of peace), only it focuses majorly on the rise of the antichrist and apostates before that. The sodomy that leads the formerly righteous to perversion. The corruption at the end of the 6th millenium with no specific dates given.

Islam - muslims do essentially the same story, only theres a prophet descended from mohammed who teams up with the Christian Second coming to return to earth and defeat the Al-Masih ad-Dajjal (muslim term for antichrist).

Hindu - Cyclical cosmology. But the end of this cycle is interesting. In Hindu cosmology we are in the final Aeon before it resets. This is the age ruled by Kali. Kali Yuga. Lasts 432,000 years. In this yuga the demon Kali tricks the world into a false narrative in opposition to 10th and final avatar of Vishnu. She will destroy the pillars of dharma and corrupt mankind. And then see above, only cyclical.

Worth noting: Kali Yuga ends in 428,899 CE.

Norse - Ragnarok was the fate of gods. That's what it means. Which also amounts to a great cataclysm that destroys all, including the gods. The world goes into permenant winter and stars dissappear from the sky. The wolves finally catch the sun and moon and game over.

Strangley, they can all almost line up. The hard part is finding the pre-christianized sources. But even pre-christianized ones line up. Lots of destruction forseen.

I agree partly with Theologian Michael Heiser (of Sitchin Is Wrong and Ancient Aliens Debunked noteriety) on that.

All stories come from a like narrative told for tens of thousands of years or built from common experiences in the distant past. Or common fears and assumptions as old our species. Events (like population bottlenecks and ice ages) and tendencies that spead the same types of stories across the planet. At very least a disposition to adopt the same types of stories and warnings against loss of virtue.

Depending on where you are standing the year is 5782 and the calendar changes in September normally , But further east before Peter the Great of Russia changed the date of celebration from September to January 1st and the year from 7207 to 1700 so without that correction the year is 7529 , confusing . And the Russians say the year 7529 was only since the last calendar reform wheels within wheels .

a reply to: stonerwilliam

 And the Russians say the year 7529 was only since the last calendar reform wheels within wheels .

The Russians have nothing to do with that calendar no matter what they say, it's not nice to steal something from someone else.

The calendar is from the Byzantine Empire, although there are various stories from when they took it.
One tower in the town of Smederevo has a written date of construction 6875 at that time, the Byzantine calendar was used in those areas.