Easter is a pagan holiday - whoever celebrates Easter is pagan and NOT Christian

Reading through each post on the pages here, I wonder how many opinions on Christianity are based on the teachings from false Christians like the prosperity preachers, the scammers and over-zealous religious freaks.

I don't belong to any popular religious label (like Christian) so it makes it a little harder to be categorized however the relationship I have with my Lord and Savior is all that matters to me. Hopefully you see through those false Christians and find His message.

How do you think the Roman Emperors where able co-opt Christianity with pagan beliefs that came from the state?

It's called interfaith, and it worked.
To this day these pagan ideologies are woven into the Christian fabric of beliefs and celebrations, the OP is not wrong.

And once again Christians are compromising on issues of morality when the state says "do this" or "this is ok and we are making a law to make it ok". Total acceptance to just get along, same thing happened with those Christians in Roman times they accepted ideologies to help to get along within society without any persecution. Of coarse there were some loyal ones and they got thrown to the lions and other beasts in the arena, enough to challenge anybody's faith.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: DaCook


Morality and Christian culture is the answer you are looking for.


Now if you want to accuse Christianity and NOT ISLAM, BUDDHISM, HINDUISM, ATHEISM, PAGANISM or any other form of so called Secular system then it becomes obvious that you only HATE Christianity.

So you want to ban Christianity because of some OTHER Cult's influence But NOT ISLAM, BUDDHISM, SIKHISM, HINDUISM or any form of New Age SATANIC LUCIFERIAN PAGANISM?.

Wake up.

Probably about as woke as my wallet will tolerate. Guess I missed the part where this thread was about other religions. Didn't see much brotherly love in that post either. Which cheek again? The other one or... The other one? Sounds about par for your typical loving Christians these days.

The problem is you probably can't believe almost a damn thing you read or see on the internet so I put my wallet where my mouth is and actually visited much of the globe except Africia. Lived in Germany and was able to see much of the major church's of Europe. Spent two years traveling much of Asia including India. Etc.

Got to admit," Other Peoples Money" can sure produce a whole lot of shock n awe. The La Sagrada Familia Basilica in Barcelona and the Vatican are pretty cool to visit as well as the Blue Mosque, Hagia Sophia in Istanbul. Even the Buddhist temples in Thailand and Xi'an China. Xi'an is the birthplace of Buddhism in China. India has some cool Hinduism festivals like the honor of Ganesha where they throw red chalk all over each other and take the God out to sea. There are 25 different religions in India alone. Shinto Temples in Japan. Certainly tried to be "woke." btw.......... I have all the pictures to prove it.

Discovering the real truth of what Christianity did in Mexico and South America was pure accident and really was not looking for it. Wow! The pure greed and brutality. One on those things: once you see it you can't forget.

Problem is all of them were created by man and almost all less violet than Christianity and Islam. Sure pretty much most have had their wars, nothing like Christians n Muslims. Jeez........ Shinto doesn't even have a god to worship n the Buddhists? Instead of killing you, they just set themselves on fire. How about Karma?

The pattern of brutality of Christianity and Islam take the cake from what I have seen. We visited Jordon and went to Petra. Just like the pyramids of the sun n moon, Machu Picu, Petra was kept secret from the "infidels." They knew it also would be destroyed by the Christians. They nuked everything in their path. Jeez, even the Muslins did not destroy the Catholic Church Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, they just stole it. Now it is a Mosque.

Actually, which "Brutal Christian Cult" are you referring to? You mean the Catholics?

Whomever was pope back then told the Spanish army to have fun. Screw a few Ho's, kill a few heathen savages n steal as much as you can as long as the Vatican gets its share. Naturally he covered their butts n told them it was OK. He would absolve the sins n take the heat from god. Cool deal if your on the right side.

We have another problem as I don't live in any of those countries. Good ol Red, White, n Blue!!!! TEXAS even. The white Christian evangelists are getting about as close to the Catholics but a bit sneakier. They are screwing up this country big time trying to impose their power by infiltrating the government and grabbing as much power as possible. Sheria law is bad! Wait till you see what the Christians have in mind for the USA.

The only good news is I am not the Lone Ranger in seeing what is going on. Christianity is slowing dying on the vine and even the younger Christian evangelists are leaving the church. The also see the writing.

Did anyone read or see what Trump did for an Easter address? Holy dog poop. Biden was having Easter Egg rolls while Trump was spreading hate. What has the USA become? What in the world are we thinking?

Wake up? Whoa Dudes n Dudetts....... We have a problem Houston.

Denny










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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: DaCook

You have right's?.

Why?.

Morality and Christian culture is the answer you are looking for.


Now if you want to accuse Christianity and NOT ISLAM, BUDDHISM, HINDUISM, ATHEISM, PAGANISM or any other form of so called Secular system then it becomes obvious that you only HATE Christianity.

Wake up.

Hate to break the news to ya home. Not believing there is a god, is not a religion. it is exactly as spelled, not believing in a god. There is no organization. Again, an example of what is taught in church that is killing this country. That "ATHIESTS" is your neighbor, their kids play with your kids. What does the bible say about neighbor? Love your neighbor.

Christianity is slowing sinking the boat.

Denny

a reply to: DeathSlayer
The pagans celebrate Halloween and Christians celebrate All Saints day. Do people really have to make a big deal of it ? Pagans know who they worship and do do Christians. What difference does it make what day it is? Do pagans own Easter Sunday or something ? I saw the same nonsense on fb today from evangelicals.
Truth is that very few of the masses really understand the true teachings of Christ. Anything that preaches that all we have to do is believe that someone died
for us is not the entire truth. Sacrifice is one thing but we all have to balance every hot and tittle (all our karma).
Christ came to show us the way, not to be an icon in some ivory Tower. We were told to give up false idols and that also means we are responsible for our own destiny according to universal laws.

a reply to: devilsadvocatetoday
I’m curious what “prosperity” preachers you are referring to? Napoleon Hill “Think and Grow Rich” is based on positive thinking and using visualization to magnetize what you need. Tithing is normal fir most churches based on Christ’s teaching. In Unveiled Mysteries and The Magic Presence, we are taught to use the power of our own God Presence within so long as you do no harm to others and you are doing according to cosmic principles.
I think that the biggest scam ever is the democrats getting taxpayers to pay for all the garbage programs and lobbyists who re elect them for personal gain and also the whine climate change garbage. We saw a news report from India exposing the child labor in Africa mining for cobalt for the electric cars being pushed on behalf of Climate Change.

a reply to: DaCook

ey are screwing up this country big time trying to impose their power by infiltrating the government and grabbing as much power as possible. Sheria law is bad

Well you sure don’t have a chip on your shoulder do you ? Your hatred of Christianity exclusively is quite the spectacle. I also appreciate Hindu festivals, but probably not for the same entertainment value as you evidently do.
You said Sharia Law is bad (your sp is wrong by the way so you could consult a dictionary), and I’m not sure if you are being sarcastic, specious, or truthful? Certain liberal factions have been allowing Sharia law to take root in the US and it is not according to Constitutional Law.
To me, it looks like you think “ anything but Christian”, and that’s very typical of the liberal agnostic/atheist worldview.
But I bet you didn’t know that the Climate Change proponents worship
GAIA goddess of earth, or maybe you did and you think that’s cool too as long as it’s not Christian ? Science rules the religion of Climate Change right?

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Actually, the Easter Bunny has it's roots in German Lutheran Christianity as a "Santa Claus" type figure (also of Christian origin) specifically for Paschaltide (Passover month).

The Christian belief has it's roots in Passover, which was from the Exodus, when Jews marked their doors with lamb's blood so the 10th plague would "passover" their houses. And the death and resurrection of Christ happened during Passover.

And, there are many denominations who don't celebrate with rabbits and eggs because the bible doesn't say to.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Yeah, but those wacky Eastern Romans started calling themselves Byzantine and sorta deliberately corrupted the pagan holidays of Rome.

Par-for-the-course cultural appropriation. Like how Norse mythology COMPLETELY changed after about 900 CE.

norse-mythology.org... - if interested

Ostara was only one of 8 sabbats to corrupt too.

Heres some others, with the traditions retained in parentheses.

Christmas- Yule (Winter themes, gift giving, role reversal)

Groundhog Day - Imbolc (the middle part of winter)

May Day - Beltane - (May pole, dancing)

Halloween - All souls/saints day - Samhain (reverence for the dead, momento mori)

The other 3 dont have a strong christianization. Summer Solstice, Mabon, and the other one aren't important enough I guess.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: DeathSlayer
The pagans celebrate Halloween and Christians celebrate All Saints day. Do people really have to make a big deal of it ? Pagans know who they worship and do do Christians. What difference does it make what day it is? Do pagans own Easter Sunday or something ? I saw the same nonsense on fb today from evangelicals.
Truth is that very few of the masses really understand the true teachings of Christ. Anything that preaches that all we have to do is believe that someone died
for us is not the entire truth. Sacrifice is one thing but we all have to balance every hot and tittle (all our karma).
Christ came to show us the way, not to be an icon in some ivory Tower. We were told to give up false idols and that also means we are responsible for our own destiny according to universal laws.

if i may take what you well stated and put it another way

christmas and easter are two holidays that have both secular and religious parts and have said this for a long time.

for example chiristmas you have santa clause and the birth of christ.

you can believe in christs birth and not santa, santa and not christ or BOTH..

They do have (like songs) some intertwining but overall are TWO SEPERATE THINGS.

you dont see reindeer at the manger and you dont see santa carrying mary in his sleigh.

same for easter but more variety.

you can believe in christs crucifixion and rising from the dead, the easter bunny with eggs and chocolate, spring renewal or all three if you so choose.

they are all part of the day but separate in their specific applications.

i can take my kids to church to understand Christ dying for our sins and rising again .. then go home and have an Easter egg hunt and biting the heads off chocolate bunnies .

the problem is people get so hung up on "oh its religious" so you cant mention it to the opposite "how can you cheapen it with eggs, bunnies, candy" to those here saying "but its really about a pagan holiday not christians"

how about if you just look at it and celebrate it as you see fit and stop trying to mold it /call it out/ whatever way you dont like

happy Easter to you all

scrounger

a reply to: DaCook
Jesus taught to turn the other cheek.

But what Paul taught under inspiration does not agree with it.

So which is correct?

HINT RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH.

a reply to: devilsadvocatetoday
Well I never said they were exclusively American holidays, I didn't mention anyone in awe of america, or about millions of non americans bum rushing our border to become americans, oh wait thats actually happening.

In America, people of all faiths celebrate these holidays, they are not exclusively christian, they are a part of the traditions we have adopted. Besides, they are pagan. They have pagan roots. Jesus was a Jew, if Christians followed Jesus, they would celebrate the Jewish holidays. The Roman catholic church invented all this. 2/3 of the new testament was written buy Paul the Roman.

Show me a celebration day which doesn't comes from pagan?

originally posted by: DaCook

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: DaCook

You have right's?.

Why?.

Morality and Christian culture is the answer you are looking for.


Now if you want to accuse Christianity and NOT ISLAM, BUDDHISM, HINDUISM, ATHEISM, PAGANISM or any other form of so called Secular system then it becomes obvious that you only HATE Christianity.

Wake up.

Hate to break the news to ya home. Not believing there is a god, is not a religion. it is exactly as spelled, not believing in a god. There is no organization. Again, an example of what is taught in church that is killing this country. That "ATHIESTS" is your neighbor, their kids play with your kids. What does the bible say about neighbor? Love your neighbor.

Christianity is slowing sinking the boat.

Denny

Bull as far as I am concerned and I think that you are 'believing' there is NO God, get it.

You have the option of sending your kid's to an ATHEIST School there are such and yet you want to ban belief for ALL kid's which pretty much sounds like an aggressive doctrinal religious fanaticism to me.

You see Atheists the word means No Deity roughly are actually believers in NO GOD so your god is a NON being get it.

Agnostics on the other hand are the ones that admit they DON'T KNOW, roughly speaking they are neither believers nor disbelievers.

YOU EXIST or do you, you observe that you exist therefore you exist but when did you begin to exist, was it when you gained your first memory, when you gained your first awareness which is something you are unlikely to remember but there are some that claim they remember being in the womb for example which is unlikely but possible or was it before that as some claim.

Have you EVER had an out of body experience, I am guessing not or you believe it was drug's if you took them or even just your brain chemistry out of whack (pretty much the same thing as taking a drug which messes with your cerebral homeostasis).

Is it because you BELIEVE what SOME not all but SOME Scientists tell you?, if you ever had a teacher that TOLD you there was NO GOD he was a liar and a bad teacher, if you had a teacher that told you he did not KNOW if there was a God then he admitted his own IGNORANCE and the fact he did NOT know.

Science by nature has to be sceptical, it does not know if you exist and for all I know I could be responding to a AI algorithm but I take it on faith that you are a person.

I exist and I know that I am not alone even though I am eminently alone in my own awareness which is not shared with you or anyone else.

But the difference between my view (not belief that is Christianity) is that I BELIEVE there are other AWARENESS around me that are not my own and I extend that believe to the one whom I believe is an ultimate awareness whom can bridge that gap separating us not that I like the idea of giving up my privacy or anything.

But to put it in a nutshell you have a choice and can have your children educated in an ATHEIST manner depriving them of Spirituality and likely forcing them to end up experimenting with all manner of religions and cult's when they get older most of which are harmful while you are rejecting the basis religion of the culture in which you were born.

While the majority believe in something you will not have your tyrannical way and will not be able to deprive other people's children of that CULTURALY important spiritual education.

You don't want to believe that is your choice but do you really think you are being fair to your children?.

But you want them to live in a world were a computer is as valuable as they are, in which eugenics will be the norm and in which the sick will be killed, well go ahead but we will fight that world of horror you and your fellow atheists are dreaming of you are walking into a nightmare with your eye's closed and while I would like to say you are doing so out of stupidity the truth is that you are being led into it by a global elite cult that control the media and planted these ideas into your mind, and guess what that cult actually do believe, they actually serve the opposite of God however and think that darkness is light and the devil is there emancipator but without getting into that subject any further what is the point I tried but you want to walk off that cliff do so but don't try to drag other people's kid's down with you.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Ya, just like anyone who supports the LGBTQ is a Minor Attracted Groomer..

What's in your heart today? "Whatever it is, we will call it evil because we said so!"

originally posted by: LABTECH767

originally posted by: DaCook

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: DaCook

You have right's?.

Why?.

Morality and Christian culture is the answer you are looking for.


Now if you want to accuse Christianity and NOT ISLAM, BUDDHISM, HINDUISM, ATHEISM, PAGANISM or any other form of so called Secular system then it becomes obvious that you only HATE Christianity.

Wake up.

Hate to break the news to ya home. Not believing there is a god, is not a religion. it is exactly as spelled, not believing in a god. There is no organization. Again, an example of what is taught in church that is killing this country. That "ATHIESTS" is your neighbor, their kids play with your kids. What does the bible say about neighbor? Love your neighbor.

Christianity is slowing sinking the boat.

Denny

Bull as far as I am concerned and I think that you are 'believing' there is NO God, get it.

You have the option of sending your kid's to an ATHEIST School there are such and yet you want to ban belief for ALL kid's which pretty much sounds like an aggressive doctrinal religious fanaticism to me.

You see Atheists the word means No Deity roughly are actually believers in NO GOD so your god is a NON being get it.

Agnostics on the other hand are the ones that admit they DON'T KNOW, roughly speaking they are neither believers nor disbelievers.

But to put it in a nutshell you have a choice and can have your children educated in an ATHEIST manner depriving them of Spirituality

Guess I need to write down your religious definitions so I don’t get them confused. Maybe stickies or a poster for my wall.

You do realize in 2007 78% of Americans identified as Christian and 16% identified as “none?” In 2021 those same categories are 63% Christian and 29% none while 6% identify as other than Christian. Now I get somehow we have 2% missing but take that beef up with the Pew Research, not me. The current numbers for white evangelical Christians as a population is 16% and that number is expected to decline along with the total Christian trend.

Let’s be real clear, Christianity is in trouble. Also maybe the reason Christianity is pulling as many under the table tricks as possible. America needs to wake up, our democracy is in trouble and the Jan 6 investigation has already exposed that there are powerful groups of people who want to overthrow our government. How much organized religion is involved in this? I dunno but highly suspicious quite a bit. Those 16% are more than a little aggressive and most likely surely involved.

Organized religion is about Money n power and don’t even think they care about anything else. For every dollar of church income, the amount spent on community help programs or charity is 4 penny’s of that dollar. The rest goes directly into the organization’s back pocket. They own hotel chains, insurance companies, etc. anything that makes them more wealthy and powerful.

For whatever reason, public schools were never meant to be a publicly paid for Bible class. Separation of church and state? Or, something like that. Why should the 37% who have nothing to do with Christianity pay for Bible classes in public schools? You have a church probably with a Bible school. What about a young person who doesn’t really want Christian indoctrination? The other option is Christian schools. Stop imposing on others and expect them to accept your dirty work.

Or is it just Christianity wants to control society and part of their business plan to enhance Christianity acceptance is keeping in every part of society. Make it normal. Cradle to grave, game plan for indoctrination.

Like I say, Houston we have a problem. You really want Christianity totally running our country? No elections. Take us back 2000 years. Sure sounds like their goal.

Denny

I am a false Christian.

Are you saying that Christians are pagans?
This makes sense.
Congrats

a reply to: DaCook

I expect all Christianity to be eradicated by 2035.

In time for the next solar nova.

a reply to: ChesterJohn