Far Right are Patriots Says Media, MSM Proving Russia's Point

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: JinMI

Yeah, I'm not saying the US had a duty to get Ukraine into NATO. It would have saved us all a lot of trouble, but that's easy to say in hindsight.

Ukraine didn't come close to meeting the absolute minimum requirements for NATO membership, the decision was made by Ukraine's own actions and inactions.

a reply to: Cutepants

Then you support nazis by backing a nation who backs such forces...it doesn't get much more clear than that.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: JinMI

Yeah, I'm not saying the US had a duty to get Ukraine into NATO. It would have saved us all a lot of trouble, but that's easy to say in hindsight.

We had absolutely no obligation to Ukraine, the world has used Ukraine as a money laundering state and theyve gladly gone along with it to fill the coffers of the elite in their country.

As another poster said they were no where NEAR eligible to join NATO, and we literally owe them NOTHING

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: Cutepants

Then you support nazis by backing a nation who backs such forces...it doesn't get much more clear than that.

Well if you replace the nazi word with any number of hostile and/or terrorist force, it essentially translates into US foreign policy for the past 50 years or so.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

IDK how accurate this page is but Zelinskys worth and assets..

The medium income for Ukraine is approx $845/month.

a reply to: JinMI


Is that why russia invaded Ukraine?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Its part of why the west is interested in defending Ukraine.

a reply to: JinMI

The US has a habit of arming and funding anything that gets us closer to your politicans interests. Look at the taliban look at ISIS...look at iran contra look at basically Amy proxy fight or nation we invested in since IDK WWII... How often has it worked out well for us in the end and even more so how often has it worked out like proposed? Never or seldom...

I guess installing dictators around the gloab for our own political gain has been great for us and great for the world and those we partner with. No they only benefits from working with the US is table scraps after we get what we want and if you get fed to the wolves or we come to depose you its all the same. 50+ years of the same failed s*%# has come back to bore us every time. Latin america, the middle east, now ukraine. Guess we lucked out on the other baltic states...but to get ukraine we have to support literal nazis. I say f#*% that...my support won't be with it. Do I love my country...unequivocally...but I am still allowed to disagree and make a case for it. We are every bit of evil we label everyone else. We are not the moral center and if doubt we have had a real moral without ulterior motive for a long long time.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
And Fox and the like are rootin' for Putin.

We go through this EVERY TIME.

THEY ALL DO IT. DON'T YOU GET IT, YOU FIGHT ME, I FIGHT YOU, AND THEY CASH IN.

CORRECTION

FoxNews wants a U.S. vs Russia War. Their coverage of Putin has been negative. Their coverage of Zelensky has been positive. Their coverage of Biden has been positive, when he makes a statement that gets us closer to war with Russia.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Its part of why the west is interested in defending Ukraine.

Because Zelinsky has a lot of money?

That makes no sense at all.

a reply to: RickyD

Yep, exactly.

Our tax dollars, 20 some billion over the last decade have gone to Ukraine and in that time have seem unrest, coups and annexation.

Now, were on the doorstep of WWIII that no one wants especially the folks that will be directed to fight.

In the end, if there is one and there is still a human race, it wont be the citizens who will reap the benefits then either.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Its part of why the west is interested in defending Ukraine.

Because Zelinsky has a lot of money?

That makes no sense at all.

To you, and thats fine by me.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Its part of why the west is interested in defending Ukraine.

Because Zelinsky has a lot of money?

That makes no sense at all.

To you, and thats fine by me.

So please explain, how does Zelinsky's bank account justify russia invading a non threatening neighbor?

Have you seen putin's bank account lately?

a reply to: JinMI


You got a source for that 20b?

a reply to: Bringittothelight

The media and our politicians want to tie nationalism into white nationalism and people like you buy it up . They say white nationalists to make you think nationalists are racist and that’s not true . They’re scared out of their wits that we’ll turn to nationalism and eliminate the need for them so they put their buzzwords in tv so ignorant folks yourself will buy it up and go start selling it all over the place like you are right now .

Now that is funny... you are describing the point I made in a previous post. Some of you guys just do not understand my posts lol...

That was my whole point in my first post... The movies, documentaries, and the MSM would just say all racist neo-nazi and everything white, etc... as Nationalist...

But now they are saying Ukrainians are Nationalists... How do you not get it?
LOL

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

IDK how accurate this page is but Zelinskys worth and assets..

The medium income for Ukraine is approx $845/month.

Thats pretty freaking crazy, then we have the wife of another gov official escaping "allegedly" with millions in cash.......and Zalinsky being a warrior for the WEF , they dont give a crap about their people, IMHO atleast economically just like the elites here in the US , those in DC dont give TWO craps about what happens to us as long as they get to close the doors behind them......

IM FULLY for the people of Ukraine fighting for their ability to be free from a gov they dont want, that includes Russia

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

So please explain, how does Zelinsky's bank account justify russia invading a non threatening neighbor?

Never said that, nice try though.

Have you seen putin's bank account lately?

Nope, and if its public record, id wager its much higher than reported.

You got a source for that 20b?

Link
link

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Nope.

Its a cesspool and its main import appears to be US tax dollars.

a reply to: JinMI


You tried to imply his wealth had something to do with it 12 posts up.


Your 'source' doesn't show anywhere near 20b over the last decade as you claimed.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: imitator

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

I think theres a huge distinction that needs to be involved with that

Putin and his supporters are considered Nationalists as well, but I wouldnt group them in with Neo Nazis

It's already defined by your favorite website SPLC... www.splcenter.org...

White nationalist groups espouse white supremacist or white separatist ideologies, often focusing on the alleged inferiority of nonwhites. Groups listed in a variety of other categories—Ku Klux Klan, neo-Confederate, neo-Nazi, racist skinhead and Christian Identity—could also be fairly described as white nationalist.

White Nationalists and Nationalists are NOT the same thing, youre conflating two dif things

No, that's not the point... the MSM and the SPCL, etc... at times describe white people, Neo-Nazis, as only Nationalists.

I think the new thing now is, if you work out and lift weights... would mean you're a Nationalist lol.