Shocking summary from CIA analyst regarding Russia

a reply to: captaintyinknots

Right they should be doing it like we do right...just fund a coup and over throw them...never mind those we usually fund to do the dirty work are typically some pretty unsavory people who tend to do some really nasty things both getting to power and once there. Remind me how our track record for regime change has gone? I can think of quite a few dictators we have helped rise to power for the sole reason of US control over other sovereign nations.

Man its a trip to watch all of your "forget" everything but RuSsia InVaDeD a SoVereIgn CouNtRy.

a reply to: nugget1

Time to go back to both the 1st and 2nd world war and see the rethoric used there. Could give a hint as to where we are in the stages towards WW3

a reply to: flice

Unlike the guy in your vid, this Fry notes that Russian think that N. war is winnable.
They have modernized their stuff and a good first strike could indeed cripple the response.
Not to mention the other stuff he said. Like a nuke over Ukraine not triggering a retaliation.
I dont think UA is lost to Russia. The strategy of providing defensive weapons works well so far

a reply to: flice

Russia has stealth subs that are behind current US stealth subs.

Does the Biden know about that as well? there was a report last year that a Russian stealth sub came close to a European country shore.

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: captaintyinknots

Right they should be doing it like we do right...just fund a coup and over throw them...never mind those we usually fund to do the dirty work are typically some pretty unsavory people who tend to do some really nasty things both getting to power and once there. Remind me how our track record for regime change has gone? I can think of quite a few dictators we have helped rise to power for the sole reason of US control over other sovereign nations.

Man its a trip to watch all of your "forget" everything but RuSsia InVaDeD a SoVereIgn CouNtRy.

I don’t play “whataboutism”. The wrong doings of the US do not justify Russia’s actions.

a reply to: captaintyinknots

But they can sure has hell cause them. The point wasn't a whataboutism...it was to point out not only the blaten hypocrisy but that's we had our hands all up in this mess as the cause. We spent over 5 billion to fund a neo nazi driven coup in Russian's doorstep to gain yet another puppet country. WTF did anyone think would happen? The US wouldn't allow that...china wouldn't either...so why would russia?

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

Well... Fry does say he thinks the Ukranians are doing well, but he also says that Russia is fighting with its fingers, not its fists. Ukraine is lost... its just a long drawn loss.

Here's what Putin should do:

- Continue to test the waters of conventional victory in Ukraine and take the Baltic states afterwards.
- Moldova seems like an idea as well.
- Position SSBNs on both sides of the US with Poseidon Torpedos
- If NATO interferes in Europe launch superEMP over Europe, preventing nuclear retaliation.
- At the same time SSBNs fires Poseidons at the East and West cost of the US.
- From that point all bets are off, but EU is lost in that case.

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: captaintyinknots

But they can sure has hell cause them. The point wasn't a whataboutism...it was to point out not only the blaten hypocrisy but that's we had our hands all up in this mess as the cause. We spent over 5 billion to fund a neo nazi driven coup in Russian's doorstep to gain yet another puppet country. WTF did anyone think would happen? The US wouldn't allow that...china wouldn't either...so why would russia?

Exactly... but saying so makes you a Putin bot instead of a free thinking man / woman.

We are so blinded by this "them and us" game.

Russians didn't play fair the last 30 years, neither did we. But our leaders placed the freaking chips on the wrong color.

And honestly... when the hell will this planet just learn to not constantly fight over everything. Or deceive eachother constantly.

The people in politics, all of them are bastards, liars. NONE of them wants anything good for "us" without wanting more for themselves.

originally posted by: flice
a reply to: nugget1

Time to go back to both the 1st and 2nd world war and see the rethoric used there. Could give a hint as to where we are in the stages towards WW3

I don't have to go back; I saw this coming before Biden even won the election. One thing the US is expert at is starting wars, and Biden started beating those drums as soon as he took office.

Canadian Prepper will have Jay Block Lt Col, USAF (Retired) on next week.
To adress any questions possibly raised by this vid.
Cool.
I feel so unprotected now. 🙂 Like I've just realized I have no plates in my plate carrier in the middle of a shooting

BREAKING

Zelensky is surrendering. Will accept neutrality and let go of Donbas.
Waiting for Russian response.

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker


This is too true. Especially recent remarks. White House can’t do enough damage control. Putin needs to be taken out of power. Telling troops WHEN you are there. Mentioning some have already been there. His words are more escalating than sending some old migs imo.

I don’t believe his dementia having ass has authority to the nukes though. Maybe in theory, but not realistically. Someone else has to be holding the keys to that.

Remember the left wanting to use the 25th on Trump? Pelosi couldn't stop saliva dripping from her mouth any time she talked about it. Now we see Biden and we get crickets...

We really need to replace the lot of them...

originally posted by: flice
BREAKING

Zelensky is surrendering. Will accept neutrality and let go of Donbas.
Waiting for Russian response.

I think you miss read it... here let me help.

Russian tank driver surrenders his tank in return for £7,500 & Ukraine citizenship in latest blow to ‘humiliated’ Putin

originally posted by: captaintyinknots

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: captaintyinknots

Right they should be doing it like we do right...just fund a coup and over throw them...never mind those we usually fund to do the dirty work are typically some pretty unsavory people who tend to do some really nasty things both getting to power and once there. Remind me how our track record for regime change has gone? I can think of quite a few dictators we have helped rise to power for the sole reason of US control over other sovereign nations.

Man its a trip to watch all of your "forget" everything but RuSsia InVaDeD a SoVereIgn CouNtRy.

I don’t play “whataboutism”. The wrong doings of the US do not justify Russia’s actions.

It just means that no one wins. Somebody is going to get screwed and the screwer is going to continue screwing long after the bodies are buried. But hey, no nuclear fallout.

a reply to: Xtrozero

They are a lot of senile, in congress, that is for sure, in both side of congress, they all need to retire.

And as for the Ukraine, is no over until Soros say is over.

originally posted by: marg6043

And as for the Ukraine, is no over until Soros say is over.

Speaking of someone that has lived about 50 years past what would have been good...

a reply to: marg6043

Theirs a lot of dual citizens in Congress, representing other countries' interests, How much of this is American foreign policy and how much the other countries. This other country was set up by a certain person, who has far too much influence for a private individual. When it all comes down to it we are looking at the "?ew world order" run by the same group of people that have run things to their own advantage for decades, not much will change. As long as people can be bought for their thirty pieces. Their main objective is to stay at the top of the dung pile, whatever it takes. That's not picking on certain groups, that is just a fact of the way things are. Learn from them.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: flice
BREAKING

Zelensky is surrendering. Will accept neutrality and let go of Donbas.
Waiting for Russian response.

I think you miss read it... here let me help.

Russian tank driver surrenders his tank in return for £7,500 & Ukraine citizenship in latest blow to ‘humiliated’ Putin

Go read the news... they are all reporting it now.
Ukraine failed... Biden failed.

originally posted by: flice

Go read the news... they are all reporting it now.
Ukraine failed... Biden failed.

I was kind of joking, but anyhow....

It is in the middle of the night over here...lol

Not sure what you mean by saying Ukraine and Biden failed at. If Ukraine says they will stay neutral and not nuclear that is great for all I would think. I don't see them annexing off land though, so we will see with that. Can you link where they said they would?

I also think Putin didn't expect any of this to go as it did and really wants a path out. What would be interesting is if the sanctions stay...

a reply to: flice

The Great Illusion: The 'Nuclear Balance

Sounded like cold war stuff but my attention span is limited tonight and the video is over an hour long.
I've got this western bias against obsessing over cold war doom porn after living through the duck and cover 60's.
Did I miss something subtle?