Do Federal Agencies Promote Religious Extremism To Gather Intelligence?

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Brotherman

Fair enough.

Didn't want to pollute the thread with occult links to back up my point more.

More or less this was about my observation and interaction with contributors to this really fringe group and unfortunately that is most recent link to support the direct funding of extremist views for the purpose of counter-terrorism

I perhaps should have explained more. The entire ideology is a fraud. The esoteric part is ripped off Jewish mysticism, the rest I feel is an example of a purposeful across the board operation to promote extremist views and follow who agrees with it.

It seems there is a genuine interest to lure people to and then make note of the fish drawn to the bait.

Though I completely understand your point.

Ill give you an arrow or pointer on the right direction... nazism and the original scheme for what himmler had in mind with his order of knights and the BS with the torch ceremonies yaddy yadda yadda go back to the crusades when germanic people were trying to conquer back the holy land. A bit of what you are looking for will be found down that coarse of research. I'd link you to some things but your probably going to find most of what I would be talking about on your own when you associate those things together in particular searches, most of which don't really involve the nazis per se but it does involve a bunch of nazis that persued these ideals and made them their own "religion" and why it is what it is.

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: Degradation33

I generally open up a portal of darkness religiously 20 minutes after eating anything from taco bell with cheese and diablo sauce, don't believe me ask my wimmins or my poor dog that won't go anywhere near the bathroom for at least an hour after I am done.

I just let out a gas cloud that takes the paint off the walls .
My wife and my 3 cats each have their own safe space .
At the very first sound , their ears pin up and they are gone before it spreads.

Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you

Friedrich Nietzsche
Words of wisdom to you .

For Thousand of years, all governments have been recruiting leaders within all religions to point out rebels and those against government policies.

Best spies are religious leaders.

a reply to: Degradation33

You really into Nazis, maybe you should spend sometime as to what USA white people did with murdering Native Indians and the black slaves....just as bad as what the Nazis have done.

a reply to: Brotherman

a reply to: DeathSlayer

My local holocaust museum begs to differ.

Of course because your redneck town hides the murders of killing Native Indians and black slaves...

More native Indian were murdered than all the jews killed during the holocaust...not counting how white people in USA stole the land from the native Indians.

War crimes...within USA gone unanswered and unpunished.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: DeathSlayer

My local holocaust museum begs to differ.

a reply to: Brotherman

Do Federal Agencies Promote Religious Extremism To Gather Intelligence?

The answer is yes.

I read a story one morning last month. It was about how the FBI paid someone to infiltrate a mosque in California. I thought about it during the day, thinking it would show up on ATS. Later that evening I checked and saw no mention. It slipped under the radar. I went back to re-read the story and was surprised to see some of the details had been scrubbed.

Basically, the story went like this.

The FBI pays someone to infiltrate the mosque and gather intelligence. The guy doesn't find anything illegal, but reports back names, numbers, whatever he could find out. The FBI wants more. They tell him to go back and try to convince members of the Muslim community to commit acts of terrorism. They also tell him to have sex with some of the women in the community, record it, and then blackmail the women.

The community leaders think the guy is suspicious and turn him in to the police, where it is discovered that he is an FBI plant. The guy feels abandoned and turns whistle-blower. He tells all the the FBI instructed him to do.

The Muslim community files suit against the FBI. The suit reaches the CA Supreme Court, where the judge dismissed the suit, stating that disclosing the reasons the FBI had for spying on the mosque could not be disclosed for national security reasons.

So, the FBI spies on these people without a warrant, tries to incite acts of domestic terrorism, engages in prostitution and blackmail, and no one will be held accountable.

I wanted to create a thread on this, but I just didn't have the time. Besides which, it took less than 24 hours for the media to scrub the whistle-blower's statements from all sources I could find reporting the story. I was hoping someone else would catch the story and post it on ATS.

a reply to: Degradation33

Filling your mind with this sort of stuff won't make you any 'wiser for salvation', as the Bible puts it. You end up filling your mind with poison even if you don't believe it. Cause you're not reading anything on these occult websites that is actually beneficial to you. It is not the truth that will set you free that Jesus talked about. The more time you spent reading this conspiracy and occult stuff, the less time is left learning the vital truths and teachings imparted by the Bible (or looking at the evidence why the Bible is reliable and truthful about what's really going on, who is really playing people and making them believe all sorts of stuff that isn't true, manipulating not only their thinking and feelings, but also their resulting behaviour and actions*).

“For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome* [Or “healthful; beneficial.”] teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled.* [Or “to tell them what they want to hear.”] They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories.” (2 Timothy 4:3,4)

“So we should no longer be children, tossed about as by waves and carried here and there by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in deceptive schemes.” (Ephesians 4:14)

“However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron.”(1 Timothy 4:1,2).

This sort of stuff (the information in the OP) is nicely distracting from this information and these truths:

Real science, knowledge of realities compared to unverified philosophies and stories (playlist)

*: A criminal may wipe his fingerprints from the crime scene in an attempt to leave no trace of his identity. However, when the police arrive, they realize that if a crime has been committed, there must be a criminal. Satan, the original “manslayer,” tries to leave no trace of his identity. (John 8:44; Hebrews 2:14) When speaking with Eve, Satan hid his identity behind a serpent. He is still trying to hide today. He “has blinded the minds of the unbelievers” so as to conceal the extent of his powerful influence.​—2 Corinthians 4:4.

However, Jesus identified Satan as the criminal mastermind behind the corrupt world we live in. He called him “the ruler of this world.” (John 12:31; 16:11) “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one,” wrote the apostle John. (1 John 5:19) Satan effectively uses “the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life” in “misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (1 John 2:16; Revelation 12:9) He is the one whom mankind in general obeys.

As was the case with Eve, those obeying Satan, in effect, make him their god. Hence, Satan is “the god of this system of things.” (2 Corinthians 4:4) The effects of his rule include hypocrisy and lies; war, torture and destruction; crime, greed and corruption.

The OP has outdone his/her self with this one. Irony salad indeed.

Personally its not the 'Letter People' (come and be with the family) (Id actually figure out this S+F thing if someone gets this reference.) that I would worry about.., Its the commercialized religious groups (mega-churches) who would use this same tactic to further their partisan agendas, all the while convinced god is their boss...Also highly intelligent but entitled academic youth who have been indoctrinated with christianity..

Looks like that symbol from Full Metal Alchemist BH where everyone dies.

It wouldn't be surprising, the CIA did try to get in bed with the Tibetan Buddhists to over throw Chinas regime decades ago.