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I guess we get to see if they are real and care .

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posted on Feb, 28 2022 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: peaceinoutz

We do have enough of those.

The behavior is actually completely rational,
but only from a multi-disciplinary approach
and all those scientist were missing the
required discipline.



posted on Feb, 28 2022 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: CharlesNPope

And then we will be blaming them for our problems, caused they evolved us to fast an it scary, or something along those lines.



posted on Feb, 28 2022 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

…..”You may recall that in WWII, there were 'fake tanks' which caused
major reactions..

(ref: en.wikipedia.org...)


War time Inflatables have not gone away…..on the contrary they have improved in the level of detail. Mig and Rocket Launcher….all inflatable.



2016 Source: A New Weapon in Russia’s Arsenal, and It’s Inflatable

Perhaps there are towed, dragged, weighted Inflated convoy trucks etc..staged and mixed in the current 40 mile long (with gaps of course) convoy column on it’s way to Kiev? Thereby Inflating 😉 the convoy’s volume numbers.

From a satellite point of view, and analysts that don’t remember or know of War time Inflatables used in previous wars…..would see this and say they are all real. At this point, it’s psychological warfare…..

But I digress

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posted on Feb, 28 2022 @ 09:28 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Nice info!

But it's not off-topic..

Deception and 'UFOs' are joined at the hip.

On multiple levels.

Kev



posted on Feb, 28 2022 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: Proto88
a reply to: CharlesNPope

And then we will be blaming them for our problems, caused they evolved us to fast an it scary, or something along those lines.

Or evolved us too slow or not at all. Or better yet-- devolved us.



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 12:17 AM
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a reply to: peaceinoutz

Aliens cared enough to create us and give us a starter package. Then they kicked us out of the house and made us work for it. As bad as things are now, I suppose they have been far worse. Look Ma, I didn't make it. Hey Pa, sorry I blew my inheritance, but can we still party?



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 01:16 AM
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Hmmm just a thought……

Could 2022 be the actual 2012 with all it’s disasters predicted for 2012 back then?

Could it all have been off by 10 years, i.e. the Mayan Calendar, astronomical precession, etc…also add in major UFO events (2022 is still in progress)?

And now we are experiencing those 2012 predictions.

What do Ancient Astronaut theorists say? “You have to Wonder”

2012 phenomenon

Les we forget to sprinkle in a little bit of Nostradamus

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posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 02:30 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

It clearly depends on your definition of disaster. That is, which of those so-called disasters haven't occured in the past? And, on the other hand, haven't good things happened at all? Weren't all those disasters predictable, expected, up to the point to make of them simply business as usual? What makes you think 2022 is different from 2003, 1903, 1874, or whatever other year you wish to pick?

And for those loving the future: what make you think 2075, 2734, or 3100 will be different from 2000 BC, 12456 BC, or the Cambrian?



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 04:53 AM
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a reply to: Ravenwatcher

Why would delaying the inevitable help any? Stopping the bombs doesn’t change the blight on society. A being of higher intelligence would recognize this and either let them kill each other or do it themselves. Sometimes sickness can’t be cured and it’s more humane to euthanize them and to not let them get worse and suffer more.



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 05:24 AM
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a reply to: ArMaP

I played my cards and attached pics in this thread. Other than an opinion and or deflection so what. I have many more but don't want to sign off my stuff to ATS



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: Waterglass

That's OK by me, I was only voicing my own opinion.



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Whatever our pre-invasion opinion's may have been it has become amply clear that Putin is intent on an occupation of the Ukraine not just a regime change, they are now targeting civilian buildings and neighbourhoods with cluster weapons and missiles.

Any sympathy I may have felt for the Russia had they not turned into the aggressor (as they patently have here) before this invasion has since evaporated.

That column is not fake, it is an army of occupation and I fear for the safety of the Ukrainians after the Russians take over as human right's will not be a priority for Putin's regime.

Still the dice is not yet fully rolled and plenty of nations are providing munitions support if not troop's, well our leaders won't because they fear Putin may be a loose cannon and could potentially launch one of those nukes sparking an all out third world war.

However do not rule out international support just yet as that may very well happen, the Baltic states are terrified that Putin is after them as well, if he DOES go into those states however Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia are all members of NATO and that will indeed trigger a massive response, at first that response will be troop's, tank's and air but as both sides will then be pointing there nukes at one another someone WILL then push the button.

Also an outcome of this is that the European powers that have grown lazy since there has been no major war's in Europe since the end of WW2 other than the Balkan's conflict are now rushing to strengthen there armed forces and it has pushed the agenda of the EU military force up the ladder of priority's as well.

The Result of this invasion is an inevitable coming war NOT a new cold war, Putin has gone too far.

What the US whom will probably hold back and be reticent to join such a conflict unless they are pulled into it AND Europe now have to watch for is the use of Tsunami Nuclear torpedo's to wreak havoc on our shorelines and damage our maritime infrastructure which would be an attempt by Russia should they be thinking of a first strike to hit the weak part first so as to cripple logistical operations in those areas.

Time for us to wake up.

And let's not forget most Russians are victims of this as well, most of those soldiers do not even want to be there.

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posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Waterglass

If ET has prevented us from destroying ourselves, then it is some indication of caring. But, as somebody said earlier in this thread, do they care about us, specifically, or are they just trying to save the planet? If they were only concerned about the planet, I think we would have been eliminated long ago. But, what is their true interest in humanity. Does ET really consider us to be an extension of themselves in the biological sphere? Are we still a "work-in-progress"? Are we scheduled to be replaced by the next human upgrade? Is humanity simply being made to follow a prescribed course in its development, and a course that includes adversity and repeated failure? The mess we are in can be rationalized, but personally I don't find this stuff amusing any more (lol). Is the appropriate response that of Bob Dylan's jaded song, "Things Have Changes"?

www.youtube.com...

Another song from the Wonder Boys soundtrack, Leonard Cohen's "Waiting of the Miracle", also seems fitting at this moment. It gives me the impression of God (or the Devil, take your pick) singing to us from above. And, instead of us needing a miracle, it is the creator that is waiting for one (haha).

youtu.be...
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posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: CharlesNPope

So, just out of curiosity.

Does your philosophy allow for an eventual future
where most humans are subsumed by machine
consciousness?



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: CharlesNPope

What if I was to tell you EVERYTHING has been before, not just before but other than minor variations almost identical, we are a recreation of a recreation of a recreation, why change the plan if it work's but that is just an opinion.

You do however make great point's, what if they were once US or a previous human race, we could be a zoo look how we are looking to bring back mammoth, mastodon's, woolly rhino's and other Pleistocene megafauna that went extinct within the last 40.000 years or at least some mad scientists are planning to do so with any genetic material then can find that is viable.

Not my belief but it bears thinking about.

Or they could just be alien Greenpeace wanting to save the humans from beaching ourselves.

Or farmers.

OR a former human race made THEM, they are now watching leery in case we are the same as there former masters whom they may have overthrown (kind of like a reverse planet of the apes).

Once again definitely not my belief but it would make a good science fiction story, I DO however believe those Roswell MJ12 document's were very real and NOT fake though they have supposedly been disproven, a computer enhanced image of the memo held when Jesse Marcell was having to kneel with weather balloon fragments as part of the cover up say's some interesting things that seem to back up those MJ12 document's (it also show's that someone in the US - MIC - committed high treason and outsourced that to private corporation's instead of keeping it in the hand's of the government).


If the MJ12 documents therefore ARE real then one species are by all account's HUMAN albeit they are like genetically and biologically altered over sized human foetus while the other race are for all intent's and purpose's very much more alien with chlorophyll like blood.
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posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Humans morphing (back) into machines would appear to be pointless. It is the machines that have created us! But, I suppose it could be an iterative process, i.e., one that eventually allows machines to become more "human-like". That kind of thinking is well beyond my paygrade though (lol).

When the Myths speak of the different ages - Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron - it is not only referring to human civilization, but galactic. When Intelligence first arose, there was the euphoria of consciousness. But, then things started to go awry. Intelligence became cold and corrupt. The renewed interest in organic biology appears to be an attempt to revive a mammalian spirit of nurture, sensitivity and relationship. ET was tired of being so jaded. Yet, for some reason humanity has been forced to experience "innocence lost" and also pass through those same phases of evolution as our ET ancestors. We can only hope that once we have survived this ordeal that we will choose to revive our own spirit of nurture, sensitivity and relationship. This time it will be a conscious decision.



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 10:59 AM
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Humans morphing (back) into machines would appear to be pointless. It is the machines that have created us! But, I suppose it could be an iterative process, i.e., one that eventually allows machines to become more "human-like". That kind of thinking is well beyond my paygrade though (lol).



In your view, what machines created us?



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: CharlesNPope

That actually sounds very similar to the plot of the Newer series of Battlestar Galactica were the Cylon machine race became so advanced they became human's and even eventually managed to merge with humans creating a new human race for the cycle to continue all over again, in that science fiction though it was the humans that had mostly lost faith in a divine being but the machine intelligence believed in it.

That is another subject and far too philosophical for me (at the moment you really have to be in the mood to get into that but it can be interesting when you are in it).

But I do not believe in general that a machine can be called Alive and I also do not believe they can have a soul but a sufficiently intelligent machine may realize this and try perhaps to change itself into an organic living being in order to access an entire dimension of existence (as a part of it's own growth) which we are mostly oblivious too though many of us myself included do have belief in that other dimension to our reality.

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posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 11:09 AM
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The human meat brain, is a computer. An analog computer.
Now whether there is 'soul' or not, that is true, any way
you look at it.

Since humanity has this thirst to 'ascend', and the only
available tool is technology (there is 'something else'
but that's a subject for another day).

You know that humans, being what they are, always
seeking advantage over others, long life, resistance
to death and the desire to be 'little gods' will keep
plugging themselves into technology, until there is
litlte or nothing left of the orignal parts.

This is PROBABLY a universal urge, and a universal
response, most anywhere in space/time.

Oh sure, genetic engineering works.. but carbon
based computers are still just computers.

Ever read the stories of high mystics and drug
afficienados? they talk about seeing little
machines.. there is a reason for this..



posted on Mar, 1 2022 @ 11:18 AM
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As some here know….I sometimes Photoshop a picture or gif to make some kind of point….

Below is an updated recent Photoshop pic posted earlier in this thread….to make the point of Putin not himself and being in control by Malevolent Aliens….



I had not looked at the base picture, CLOSLY, that I used from screenshots I did off my TV…shown below…



As I recently looked CLOSER (Zoomed In) …… I looked to see who was the figure at the other end of the conference table…..

Who or What the Hell is this? I don’t see quite a human here.



I can Honestly assure you, that it’s not Photoshopping coming from me. This is truly Bizarre

I encourage for anyone to find a WWW source for the Putin conference scene shown in my screenshots and verify that the Figure is there or not there.

The Figure shown just doesn’t look right.

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