Information War - Natural Immunity v Vaccines

a reply to: blaenau2000

No "information war" is required. FACTS are 100% on the side of Natural Immunity.

The most important words from the CDC are updated every quarter, and remain the same.

Front and Center at CDC.gov: www.cdc.gov...

The CDC does even attempt to claim that Covid vaccines protect you from contracting the virus. But they do say the vaccines effectiveness starts to wane just a couple months after you're injected, and its all downhill from there.

Bookmark the above CDC webpage on your phone and show it to anyone who gives you static. 35 million of us in America are BETTER than vaccinated...dating back to February 2020.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: UnRepentantHarlequin

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: blaenau2000

Corporations have control of your governments and through them the health industry which they already had control of anyway.

Immunity from prosecution, money to be made by making people take a vaccine, money to be made by treating them for any side affects including life long conditions.

Money into the pockets of the elite whom have gotten even richer during the pandemic and do not want to see that flow of cash into there hands fall.

And that is why the jabs are deemed, “SAFE & EFFECTIVE”

SAFE for the pharmaceutical companies- no liabilities
EFFECTIVE for the Globalist agenda to depopulate and control the masses.

Wouldn't it be in big pharma's own interest to make sure that the shot was both safe and effective?

If I were putting a product out on a market this big and this high profile I'd do my absolute level best to make sure that I ended up on the right side of history.

If this shot is found to be dangerous, even in 10 years time, it will DESTROY the companies that released it. They might have immunity today, but if a million people turn up dead because of their product they sure won't have immunity in the future because all that it would take is for one first world country to have a government that decided to revoke it and that company would be obliterated on the stock market, and its name would be so tarnished that nobody would want to do business with it ever again.

In fact, if these shots do kill a lot of people law suits might be the least of their worries. I'm seeing ... lynching. Lots and lots of lynchings.

First I am going to quote this Reuters article about Astra Zeneca....

“This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in ... four years the vaccine is showing side effects,” Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra’s senior executive team, told Reuters.

“In the contracts we have in place, we are asking for indemnification. For most countries it is acceptable to take that risk on their shoulders because it is in their national interest,” he said, adding that Astra and regulators were making safety and tolerability a top priority.

www.reuters.com...

And now i will explain to you that these drugs were produced under the 2005 PREP act which excludes any tort claim being made against the pharmaceutical companies because it is a public health emergency. At least in the USA.

So no. Not in 10 years. Not in 20 years. No one will ever be able to sue the pharmaceutical companies for this at all. Best hope is to go through NVICP, the National vaccine injury compensation fund which was created in the 80s due to many pharmaceutical companies being sued and having to pay large settlements due to vaccines which threatened their ability to continue to produce vaccines. So the federal government stepped in and pays any provable claim of vaccine injury. People will have to sue the department of health and human services and by that point I am sure the US economy will have crashed anyway and government will be in turmoil, so good luck with that.

It was created in the 1980s, after lawsuits against vaccine companies and health care providers threatened to cause vaccine shortages and reduce U.S. vaccination rates, which could have caused a resurgence of vaccine preventable diseases.

Any individual, of any age, who received a covered vaccine and believes he or she was injured as a result, can file a petition. Parents, legal guardians and legal representatives can file on behalf of children, disabled adults, and individuals who are deceased.

www.hrsa.gov...

I don't think you're in America, otherwise you would know about all this. But just in case that is the link to the website for the vaccine injury compensation fund. You know, if you need it later.

a reply to: Chalcedony

First I am going to quote this Reuters article about Astra Zeneca....

That only really protects them from honest mistakes or things that could not be reasonable foreseen. If they knowingly put a dangerous product out on the market or kept a product on the market if it was found to be unsafe and covered it up, that protection would last about 5 seconds. It also won't protect them from trial by media, trial by social media, or a good old fashioned lynching.

If these drugs turn out to be harmful they're going to be put out of business even if they aren't put in jail.

If it turns out that these vaccines were part of some kind of wider plot or conspiracy then the people in charge are going to die. No ifs, no buts, so many people have had the shot that their own people who weren't in on the conspiracy would lynch them.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Keep rationalizing. I am glad you admit there is a possibility there could be unforseen, unintended effects from these drugs. So maybe we shouldn't be threatening people's jobs and livelihoods over them.

originally posted by: wlee48868
Another mystery is what's the deal with Africa,. They have hardly been affected by Covid and are not being pushed with the vaccines,. Looks like another conspiracy. Is Africa the elites next playground.. look at this world map that shows a interesting picture.. www.bbc.com...

Many African Nations use HCQ for malaria. As CiaNN would have us believe, the African "holistic" witch Dr. types are passing out poison. Almost no media outlet wants us to know it isn't poison because of a drug that costs cents on the dollar would stop this dead in its track if you had it in your system when the virus found you. This is a similar situation to the homeless that didn't drop like flies of Covid. It might be the TV is the common denominator. Turn of the brainwashing agent and Covid will disappear.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: blaenau2000
One clip from Sen Rand Paul,
One clip from a China News Channel.

We are certainly in an information war.


Natural Immunity although better is not recognised? WHY ?

This isn't a conspiracy, it's a bureaucracy.

The government wants a standardized benchmark that can be easily recorded, verified and statisised. It's better to do this against a vax than anything else because the variables are simpler and you get cleaner data from it.

For example, there are more variants of covid than there are vaxes, so you get cleaner data by the vax as your standard because there are fewer variables involved.

It's also easier and cheaper to get you vaxxed than to actually measure whether or not you have natural immunity.

Your twists and turns are impressive.

You should be a politician.

originally posted by: Chalcedony

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: blaenau2000

Corporations have control of your governments and through them the health industry which they already had control of anyway.

Immunity from prosecution, money to be made by making people take a vaccine, money to be made by treating them for any side affects including life long conditions.

Money into the pockets of the elite whom have gotten even richer during the pandemic and do not want to see that flow of cash into there hands fall.

Sounds like corporate socialism to me. Wait a minute...I thought I lived in a republic with a representative democracy.

It's called pay to play. If you can't afford premium membership in the yacht club then you don't have a chance of sitting down with your representative and making them answer to their constituents.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: UnRepentantHarlequin

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: blaenau2000

Corporations have control of your governments and through them the health industry which they already had control of anyway.

Immunity from prosecution, money to be made by making people take a vaccine, money to be made by treating them for any side affects including life long conditions.

Money into the pockets of the elite whom have gotten even richer during the pandemic and do not want to see that flow of cash into there hands fall.

And that is why the jabs are deemed, “SAFE & EFFECTIVE”

SAFE for the pharmaceutical companies- no liabilities
EFFECTIVE for the Globalist agenda to depopulate and control the masses.

Wouldn't it be in big pharma's own interest to make sure that the shot was both safe and effective?

If I were putting a product out on a market this big and this high profile I'd do my absolute level best to make sure that I ended up on the right side of history.

If this shot is found to be dangerous, even in 10 years time, it will DESTROY the companies that released it. They might have immunity today, but if a million people turn up dead because of their product they sure won't have immunity in the future because all that it would take is for one first world country to have a government that decided to revoke it and that company would be obliterated on the stock market, and its name would be so tarnished that nobody would want to do business with it ever again.

Holy freaking sheets, are you serious? Ever hear of baby powder?

ONE OF THE MANUFACTURERS OF THESE VACCINES DID THAT EXACT THING!
link

J&J didn’t tell the FDA that at least three tests by three different labs from 1972 to 1975 had found asbestos in its talc – in one case at levels reported as “rather high.”

How is J&J doing? Are they even slightly facing your predictions? They've surely been fined through the roof and run off the stock market since you posted your ridiculous, fantasy-based post right? You'll have to let me know, I haven't checked the market in a few days.

Sigh...ignorance breeding

originally posted by: Chalcedony
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Keep rationalizing. I am glad you admit there is a possibility there could be unforseen, unintended effects from these drugs. So maybe we shouldn't be threatening people's jobs and livelihoods over them.

I accept that there is an absolutely miniscule risk to the vax, but I completely reject it as a reason not to get it unless you have a history of problems with vaccinations in general.

You have more chance of being struck by lightning than being harmed by the vax.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: UnRepentantHarlequin

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: blaenau2000

Corporations have control of your governments and through them the health industry which they already had control of anyway.

Immunity from prosecution, money to be made by making people take a vaccine, money to be made by treating them for any side affects including life long conditions.

Money into the pockets of the elite whom have gotten even richer during the pandemic and do not want to see that flow of cash into there hands fall.

And that is why the jabs are deemed, “SAFE & EFFECTIVE”

SAFE for the pharmaceutical companies- no liabilities
EFFECTIVE for the Globalist agenda to depopulate and control the masses.

Wouldn't it be in big pharma's own interest to make sure that the shot was both safe and effective?

If I were putting a product out on a market this big and this high profile I'd do my absolute level best to make sure that I ended up on the right side of history.

If this shot is found to be dangerous, even in 10 years time, it will DESTROY the companies that released it. They might have immunity today, but if a million people turn up dead because of their product they sure won't have immunity in the future because all that it would take is for one first world country to have a government that decided to revoke it and that company would be obliterated on the stock market, and its name would be so tarnished that nobody would want to do business with it ever again.

Holy freaking sheets, are you serious? Ever hear of baby powder?

ONE OF THE MANUFACTURERS OF THESE VACCINES DID THAT EXACT THING!
link

J&J didn’t tell the FDA that at least three tests by three different labs from 1972 to 1975 had found asbestos in its talc – in one case at levels reported as “rather high.”

How is J&J doing? Are they even slightly facing your predictions? They've surely been fined through the roof and run off the stock market since you posted your ridiculous, fantasy-based post right? You'll have to let me know, I haven't checked the market in a few days.

Sigh...ignorance breeding

Millions didn't die, and that wasn't a conspiracy to depopulate the world.

On the other hand the main company pushing those pain killers is bankrupt now due to law suits

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: blaenau2000
One clip from Sen Rand Paul,
One clip from a China News Channel.

We are certainly in an information war.


Natural Immunity although better is not recognised? WHY ?

This isn't a conspiracy, it's a bureaucracy.

The government wants a standardized benchmark that can be easily recorded, verified and statisised. It's better to do this against a vax than anything else because the variables are simpler and you get cleaner data from it.

For example, there are more variants of covid than there are vaxes, so you get cleaner data by the vax as your standard because there are fewer variables involved.

It's also easier and cheaper to get you vaxxed than to actually measure whether or not you have natural immunity.

Your twists and turns are impressive.

You should be a politician.

If you are so sure that this is a conspiracy then why haven't you even attempted to debunk anything that I've said?

It sounds to me that you don't believe yourself and are just spreading fear and doubt for fun.

If you knew anything about governments then what I say is so obvious that it shouldn't need saying.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: UnRepentantHarlequin

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: blaenau2000

Corporations have control of your governments and through them the health industry which they already had control of anyway.

Immunity from prosecution, money to be made by making people take a vaccine, money to be made by treating them for any side affects including life long conditions.

Money into the pockets of the elite whom have gotten even richer during the pandemic and do not want to see that flow of cash into there hands fall.

And that is why the jabs are deemed, “SAFE & EFFECTIVE”

SAFE for the pharmaceutical companies- no liabilities
EFFECTIVE for the Globalist agenda to depopulate and control the masses.

Wouldn't it be in big pharma's own interest to make sure that the shot was both safe and effective?

If I were putting a product out on a market this big and this high profile I'd do my absolute level best to make sure that I ended up on the right side of history.

If this shot is found to be dangerous, even in 10 years time, it will DESTROY the companies that released it. They might have immunity today, but if a million people turn up dead because of their product they sure won't have immunity in the future because all that it would take is for one first world country to have a government that decided to revoke it and that company would be obliterated on the stock market, and its name would be so tarnished that nobody would want to do business with it ever again.

Holy freaking sheets, are you serious? Ever hear of baby powder?

ONE OF THE MANUFACTURERS OF THESE VACCINES DID THAT EXACT THING!
link

J&J didn’t tell the FDA that at least three tests by three different labs from 1972 to 1975 had found asbestos in its talc – in one case at levels reported as “rather high.”

How is J&J doing? Are they even slightly facing your predictions? They've surely been fined through the roof and run off the stock market since you posted your ridiculous, fantasy-based post right? You'll have to let me know, I haven't checked the market in a few days.

Sigh...ignorance breeding

Millions didn't die,

I just can't understand the ignorance here, yes, indeed millions have died from cancer related to this product going back from beyond the 70's.

They lied about it, intentionally.

You accept them, the willing liars contributing to millions of deaths from many forms of cancer, as one of the makers of the current vaccines.

They are your maker. Your future doesn't look well.

When production shuts down, you will not survive, you have no skills, you depend too much. You won't even be able to tell north at night by looking at a tree in the forest.

Good luck to you, you clearly Arrr a Zombie

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: blaenau2000
One clip from Sen Rand Paul,
One clip from a China News Channel.

We are certainly in an information war.


Natural Immunity although better is not recognised? WHY ?

This isn't a conspiracy, it's a bureaucracy.

The government wants a standardized benchmark that can be easily recorded, verified and statisised. It's better to do this against a vax than anything else because the variables are simpler and you get cleaner data from it.

For example, there are more variants of covid than there are vaxes, so you get cleaner data by the vax as your standard because there are fewer variables involved.

It's also easier and cheaper to get you vaxxed than to actually measure whether or not you have natural immunity.

Your twists and turns are impressive.

You should be a politician.

If you are so sure that this is a conspiracy then why haven't you even attempted to debunk anything that I've said?

It sounds to me that you don't believe yourself and are just spreading fear and doubt for fun.

If you knew anything about governments then what I say is so obvious that it shouldn't need saying.

You never provide sources to back up your claims, therefore your claims fall under the category of opinion, and well, you can't debunk stupid.

Maybe source some material other than fictional imagination if you want to be taken seriously.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: blaenau2000
One clip from Sen Rand Paul,
One clip from a China News Channel.

We are certainly in an information war.


Natural Immunity although better is not recognised? WHY ?

This isn't a conspiracy, it's a bureaucracy.

The government wants a standardized benchmark that can be easily recorded, verified and statisised. It's better to do this against a vax than anything else because the variables are simpler and you get cleaner data from it.

For example, there are more variants of covid than there are vaxes, so you get cleaner data by the vax as your standard because there are fewer variables involved.

It's also easier and cheaper to get you vaxxed than to actually measure whether or not you have natural immunity.

Your twists and turns are impressive.

You should be a politician.

If you are so sure that this is a conspiracy then why haven't you even attempted to debunk anything that I've said?

It sounds to me that you don't believe yourself and are just spreading fear and doubt for fun.

If you knew anything about governments then what I say is so obvious that it shouldn't need saying.

You never provide sources to back up your claims, therefore your claims fall under the category of opinion, and well, you can't debunk stupid.

Maybe source some material other than fictional imagination if you want to be taken seriously.

You want me to source "governments love Red tape"?

Seriously?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Claiming water is wet does not.

I cite every government ever as proof.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: blaenau2000
One clip from Sen Rand Paul,
One clip from a China News Channel.

We are certainly in an information war.


Natural Immunity although better is not recognised? WHY ?

This isn't a conspiracy, it's a bureaucracy.

The government wants a standardized benchmark that can be easily recorded, verified and statisised. It's better to do this against a vax than anything else because the variables are simpler and you get cleaner data from it.

For example, there are more variants of covid than there are vaxes, so you get cleaner data by the vax as your standard because there are fewer variables involved.

It's also easier and cheaper to get you vaxxed than to actually measure whether or not you have natural immunity.

Your twists and turns are impressive.

You should be a politician.

If you are so sure that this is a conspiracy then why haven't you even attempted to debunk anything that I've said?

It sounds to me that you don't believe yourself and are just spreading fear and doubt for fun.

If you knew anything about governments then what I say is so obvious that it shouldn't need saying.

You never provide sources to back up your claims, therefore your claims fall under the category of opinion, and well, you can't debunk stupid.

Maybe source some material other than fictional imagination if you want to be taken seriously.

My sources for covid stages are now in my signature, click through to confirm.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I thought you might have taken it as a compliment.