Mayo Clinic doctor says vaccines are more effective than natural immunity

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: HawkEyi

If immune response to a vaccine rolls off over time, it is highly likely that 'natural' immune response from exposure to a disease, would also.

Wrong, we've seen antibodies from the 1918 spanish flu as late as 2008 in people. Natural immunity seems to last a lifetime.

Researchers find long-lived immunity

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
Someone grab a medical encyclopedia and then turn to the page that list human viruses .

Now how many are there ? I'll wait .

Rhetorical , because the answer is more than just Covid-19 that's for sure .

So suggesting that this " Vaccine" is better than Natural immunity in general is completely preposterous , our immune system is the only reason I'll say again the ONLY reason we are still alive to this day .

This "vaccine" may be good for fighting Covid-19 in some people , but it is not a replacement for our Immune system .

All vaccines use our immune systems. They don't 'replace' them.

Chr0 this is not a Vaccine in the traditional sense of the word and you know that.

Most Vaccine's train our immune system to attack said Virus by giving it a weakened version of the Virus initially , so that our immune system builds NATURAL anti-bodies to fight the real Virus if it ever comes .

You'd be quite wrong there. The vaccines for Dyptheria, Tetanus, and Whooping Cough are not 'inactivated pathogen' types of vaccines. They are chemical vaccines that mimic toxins produced by the pathogens and that promote an immune response and are called "toxoid' vaccines.

Toxoid From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This Covid-19 "Vaccine " is purely a modification of our bodies natural immune system along with an unknown amount of booster shots in the future .

Approximately right, except it doesn't actually modify anything that already exists in our immune system. All that stuff stays as-is.

The Covid-19 vaccine is not a weakened version of the Virus

That is correct.

it is a DNA based protein modifier.

That is not correct.

Some (but not all) COVID-19 vaccines are mRNA vaccines. The RNA (not DNA) that they contain codes for the production of the same protein found in the 'spike' region of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19.

When the mRNA strand enters the cell and is presented to the ribosomes, they assemble the amino acid chains in accordance with the RNA coding and this produces the 'spike' protein out of those chained-together amino acids. But it does not build any of the rest of the virus.

This 'spike' protein then appears alien to our bodies and so our immune systems uses it as a template to quickly identify the foreign protein, should it present in future (like as part of the virus). These templates that drive immune reaction are called antibodies and they go around in solution in our bodies and attach to the spike protein if found, tagging it for destruction by our immune system.

Nothing of our immune system is taken away. The vaccines add new information (as does a COVID-19 infection that we survive).

So.........

yes it is replacing our natural immune system with a modified one.

Our immune system is very very complex and large. It extends all throughout our bodies. If it were taken away, and replaced with something that did just one thing, i.e: that dealt with just one disease, we'd die - very quickly of every other disease to which we are exposed, including many that are otherwise benign to us and are generally probiotic, like our normal gut bacteria.

originally posted by: litterbaux

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: HawkEyi

If immune response to a vaccine rolls off over time, it is highly likely that 'natural' immune response from exposure to a disease, would also.

Wrong, we've seen antibodies from the 1918 spanish flu as late as 2008 in people. Natural immunity seems to last a lifetime.

Researchers find long-lived immunity

Wow 90+ years old. That's fairly amazing.

Especially when we have to vaccinate against the same type of virus (flu) every season, because we can keep on catching it, all the time.

How many diseases can you get more than once?

Surely the magic 'natural' immune system would mean that we'd never get a sickness or infection more than once in our lives?