Religious exemptions for the global covid vaccine rollout are not being accepted by the authorities. Basically there are no exceptions for refusal,
but the rejection of a plea for exemption on religious grounds has a connotation which runs deeper than just the highest law is one which is for the
common good.
If I claim an exemption on religious grounds, what will be the process of consideration by the irrelevant authorities to evaluate it? Obviously they
cannot just immediately reply”No!” They will firstly ask: “To which religion do you belong?” So this implies firstly that all religion is
organized, and if it is not organized then it has no foundation and so therefore has no ‘license’.
But which organized religion is actually making an outspoken stand against the mandating of this novel form of g.m.o - based biological intervention?
I haven’t seen any? So the politicians and the priests seem to have arrived at some sort of understanding. That is something like an agreement
between church and state of non-interference. The priesthood though is actually bowing down to the mandates of state. They are demonstrating the fact
that they are not concerned with religion at all, but are just another form of political organization.
Politics concerns organization and control of the physical world. Organized religion concerns a code of behavior in the physical world along with a
belief system in a world beyond embodied physical life. The only difference between organized religion and politics is this belief in a physical
afterlife. This suits politics very well as organized religion is allowed to exist as long as it doesn't interfere in earthly politics.
Organized religion has no living master or living proof of an existing dimension that transcends the physical realm. A living master is proof that the
physical reality is not separated from higher realms of being but is a foundation for them to manifest through the avatar of a physical body.
Organized religion does not synthesize, it divides reality into physical and spiritual - one reality in this life and one beyond this life. Each
reality seems to be independent of the other although actions in the physical world are believed to affect one’s status in the after life world.
The logic of organized religion is that it is belief rather than physical conditions which determine the afterlife condition. One could be blind, deaf
or dumb and as long as one has belief then all will be well on the road up ahead.
So, what’s with a vaccine? That is not going to interfere with your spiritual condition! Body is body, soul is soul. But what happened to: “What
God has put together let no man put asunder”? But if I asked an all-knowing priest he/she would reply that I have taken the phrase out of it’s
intentional context by God.
What actually is religion then? I mean in relation to me. Why am I not able to request a religious exemption without having a representative of some
established organized religion to back me up? Is self realization not possible without another human being to validate it?
Second thing is no leader of any established religion is going to stand up as my referee. An application for a house rental requires 3 referees, but
how many do I require for a religious exemption?
I don’t blame the political establishment for this situation, I blame the religious establishment for being such a bunch of sissies. Toothless
tigers. Hushed-mouthed enablers of the stalking bully in the room. Cowards.
Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama has received his first dose of the coronavirus vaccine while urging others eligible to "take this
injection".
"This is very very helpful, very good," he said as he was given the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab at a facility in the Indian city of Dharamsala on
Saturday.
The Dalai Lama had enrolled himself to be vaccinated, officials said.
Receiving his first shot in the northern state of Himachal Pradesh on Saturday, the Dalai Lama said people needed to be vaccinated to "prevent some
serious problems".
The chief medical officer of Himachal Pradesh's Kangra district, Dr Gurdarshan Gupta, said the Dalai Lama had offered to visit the vaccination centre
"like a common man", Reuters news agency reported.
Speaking to the BBC last year, the Dalai Lama said the pandemic had promoted a "sense of concern, a more compassionate feeling".
The leader of Tibetan Buddhism sees reasons for optimism even in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic. People are helping one another, he tells the
BBC's Justin Rowlatt, and if seven billion people on Earth develop "a sense of oneness" they may yet unite to solve the problem of climate
change.
I've been extremely disappointed by people I used to look to for spiritual and psychological inspiration. It just reinforces the fact that nobody
really "knows" anything, you have to find your truth for yourself. Religion has always been a political tool.
"The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing" - Socrates
edit on 15-10-2021 by herefortheride because: (no reason given)
Don't know why the Dalai Lama is getting one, Surely he can just move on to his next life, then the next and the next.
What does the Dalai Lama say about the afterlife?
The Dalai Lama describes the process of death
“As a Buddhist, I view death as a normal process, a reality that I accept will occur as long as I remain in this earthly existence. Knowing that I
cannot escape it, I see no point in worrying about it".
Seems awfully worried to me.
I believe this will play out exactly the way it was meant to.
Those that are firm in their convictions, will not need acceptance or permission from a pastor, priest, boss, or government.
They know what is right for them, and no mandate, threat, or punishment, will be able to change what they believe is right.
This is a choice that each and every person has to make. I don't have the authority to tell anyone what is the right choice. I only have the authority
over my own actions, and the choice of whom I willingly, give authority over me.
There are not enough people who will be able to resist compliance. For those that do stand firm, and will not comply, it is going to be tough. It will
be no surprise. It is expected and projected.
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Don't know why the Dalai Lama is getting one, Surely he can just move on to his next life, then the next and the next.
What does the Dalai Lama say about the afterlife?
The Dalai Lama describes the process of death
“As a Buddhist, I view death as a normal process, a reality that I accept will occur as long as I remain in this earthly existence. Knowing that I
cannot escape it, I see no point in worrying about it".
Seems awfully worried to me.
The same argument can be made for any devout believer who subscribes to the process of being evicted from your mortal avatar and ascending to some
lofty alternate dimension.
The same argument can be made for any devout believer who subscribes to the process of being evicted from your mortal avatar and ascending to
some lofty alternate dimension.
Interesting. Do you believe that wishing to avoid death is evidence of a lack of religion?
The courts have already ruled on this a long time ago. A religious exemption does NOT require any affiliation with any organized religious group. It
only requires a personal moral objection.
It is peculiar to think any devout believer would choose to sustain their human existence given their ritual dedication to being reborn. The metaphor
of dying isn't entirely metaphor. But I'm an ignorant heathen. *shrug*
originally posted by: 00018GE
The courts have already ruled on this a long time ago. A religious exemption does NOT require any affiliation with any organized religious
group. It only requires a personal moral objection.
Religion means different things to different people, different cultures, and societies.
No one has the right to evaluate and make a determination on how faithful your personal principles, beliefs, and commitments are to whomever or
whatever you worship.
If you give someone that kind of control over you, you have relinquished all, and there is no return. If you value yourself so lowly, why would you
expect anyone else to see you as human, or with any value or worth?
We all have our price. If you sell yourself for less than a pittance, you will be treated accordingly, and with no recourse.
originally posted by: 00018GE
The courts have already ruled on this a long time ago. A religious exemption does NOT require any affiliation with any organized religious group. It
only requires a personal moral objection.
"Looking back through Australia's recent history, there's only been one religion that has successfully lobbied for a vaccine exemption. That is the
Christian Scientists, a small sect of Christianity who believes in prayerful healing to manage their health.
According to the 2016 Census, just 974 Australians reported they were Christian Scientist, out of 12 million people identifying as Christian more
broadly.
In 1998, the church was granted an exemption to the Federal Government's new "no jab, no pay" laws that meant children had to be vaccinated to receive
childcare and family benefits. They were the only religion to receive such an exemption — which required parents and carers to provide a letter from
a church leader — sparking unfounded fears the decision would cause a flood of new converts eager to bypass the laws.
"As far as our practice of trusting our problems to God prayerfully, that hasn't really altered," said Edwina Aubin, a Christian Scientist
practitioner from Brisbane. "We're not 'anti-vax' as such, and neither are we 'pro-vax' … if it's what's required, then that's what we'll do."
Ms Aubin explains that while the majority of the church's members feel they don't require traditional medicine, instead relying on prayer and the
support of practitioners in the church, there's nothing stopping them from seeking it out — whether it's a legal requirement or not.
But when it comes to COVID-19, the Christian Scientists are taking a different approach.
"As far as our practice of trusting our problems to God prayerfully, that hasn't really altered," said Edwina Aubin, a Christian Scientist
practitioner from Brisbane. "We're not 'anti-vax' as such, and neither are we 'pro-vax' … if it's what's required, then that's what we'll do."
Ms Aubin explains that while the majority of the church's members feel they don't require traditional medicine, instead relying on prayer and the
support of practitioners in the church, there's nothing stopping them from seeking it out — whether it's a legal requirement or not.
But even so, she said the question of whether to get the COVID-19 jab "probably has challenged many Christian Scientists". In making the decision, she
pointed to another core tenet of their beliefs: "Do to another what you want done to yourself."
"I certainly know those who have chosen to be vaccinated have done so because they feel it's the more loving thing to do to allay the fears of
those around them," she said.
"We're conscious that we don't want to make another fearful because of our stance, and if there's no fear in our thought to go ahead and be vaccinated
then that's a more loving step to take."
It's this approach that led the government to scrap religious exemptions to immunisation completely in 2015, declaring the policy no longer
necessary."
Do no harm is the basis of Buddhism. I think it has more to do with that than a fear of dying or not wanting to die. He probably honestly believes he
is protecting people by getting vaccinated.
I just need to point out that according to that view, aren't the only people with faith the people who have died?
That says that anyone who is alive is obviously not following their faith and thus not eligible for a religious exemption, doesn't it?
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But I see it another way: the worry about catching a disease is the fear of dying (or at least being handicapped) from it. Otherwise, a disease is
only a temporary nuisance. So since the vaccine is said to provide immunity to the disease, the very act of refusing the vaccination tells me that the
person is exercising their faith and thus qualifies for a religious exemption simply by virtue of their refusal.
Would you agree that taking the vaccine is in itself an act signifying a lack of faith?