Just don't look.

originally posted by: Chalcedony
a reply to: lordcomac

Do you think this was by design? To force participation?

Yes, I do.

Why else would they go through all this trouble? The death rates for the untested jabs are nearly as high as the death rates of this supposedly horribly deadly boogieman of a virus. Something like 2/10 of a percent? Give me a break. I'd bet the increased deaths from stress related to lockdowns is higher than that.
The people behind this anti-freedom push are making a fortune off of it, and they'll keep shoving it down our throats as long as they're getting paid to do it.

a reply to: Chalcedony

If they really care about their life they will use critical thinking and make the best decision for themselves or maybe do their own research.

There's the catch. People can't think. They let someone do it for them. They just follow whatever they hear from the govt, the talking heads, or total strangers on social media. Furthermore, people will just flat-out reject the truth if it's not comfortable to them. It's bizarre I tells ya!

A couple of weeks ago, an ATS member started a thread that provoked quite a response. I think the thread featured a story about some alleged remarks a politician made. The comments started flying, with people seemingly just accepting the story as fact. The thread was heating up, but then someone posted a comment showing how they disproved the story quite easily with a quick online search. I'm pretty sure it was Augustus that 'crashed the party', as it were.

a reply to: Chalcedony

If they really care about their life they will use critical thinking and make the best decision for themselves

What decisions? We haven’t been given any. Only mandates.

You’re still halfway under that rock dude.

a reply to: lordcomac

Simply not participating was never an option this time around.

It always was. You don't have to do anything someone demands you, unless you have consented to being governed by them or something (which you probably have)..

I didn't participate, and I am still alive. I don't wear masks or practice any distance crap, I don't take any of the rhetoric seriously, and NO ONE has said to me anything during all this time. No one has denied me entry to bus or grocery store, no one has refused to sell me objects in thrift or other stores.

Not participating is clearly an option, so if you feel differently about it, maybe you are not doing it right.

-shut down the schools, sending children home

What child wants to be in school rather than home? I would've been extatic, not having to go to that stuffy instituation, but being able to relax home. Even with 'zoom' or whatnot, it can't be as stressful as having bullies push your head into the toilet in a building far away from your home where no one helps you, or punch you repeatedly in the shoulder just before math class.

-shut down the offices, sending employees home

Have you ever read Dilbert? Would you rather be in a cubicle or home?

-shut down borders, sending the worldwide economy into a tailspin

Ever heard of illegal immigrants, No-Go-zones, car explosions, r*pes, etc.? Rinkeby Rink a Bell?

-outright lie about death statistics

Statistics lie always. Especially government and mainstream media statistics.

It might not have been as blatant back then, but what about media or government lying exactly prevents you from 'not participating', or forces you to participate in anything?

-start sending people free money to NOT work

How is this a bad thing? This is how world should work in the first place; people should not work selfishly for their own gain, but for the common good for free, and then the system would give people money - that way, everyone would be happy, work would always be fun and meaningful, and everyone would have enough money.

Then if you want something selfishly extra, you could still work for higher pay to get what you want. This would be the perfect system, and letting people experience a preview of what a good world would be like might actually inspire many to start working to accomplish just that. I don't see how this is worse than the corporate status quo that makes rich richer and poor poorer and lets glue-sniffing homeless children fall asleep in busy traffic in Asia, letting 100000 people die of starvation every day, and let corporations get away with murder, fraud, lying to people and polluting the planet.

Any chance is good change.. well, maybe not literally, but you can see what I mean.

-task police with harassing people for leaving their homes

Haven't seen this happening - is this really a thing anyway? Ok, if THIS happened in a large scale, then I'd agree that 'not participating is not an option', but as long as it's not happening to majority all the time, it should not be an issue if you don't want to participate. Even the police can't be everywhere all the time. You can tactically choose when you're going to be out, especially if you don't have to go to the office or school..

Also, what's this weird wording? 'Task police'? What does it matter if police has tasks? Isn't that what the police is for? That's one job you can't make people do at home, so what are you complaining about, didn't you just say people being forced out of the office was a bad thing? Here we have a job where that's NOT done, and you still complain? Shouldn't you be HAPPY that police are tasked with something so your dream of people NOT being sent home will come true?

-demand the general public wear a face diaper

I don't like when people change words to something more 'dramatic' to conform to their narrative, or to try to elicit an emotional response from their readers.

This is just manipulative writing. Just say 'mask'.

Look, just because someone DEMANDS you do something, HOW exactly does it create any obligation in you? It doesn't. You don't have to wear a mask just because someone 'demands'.

Demand is not a lawful command, it doesn't EVEN have the power of law behind it (there's a difference, by the way).

I can demand you give me 800 dollars, does that create an obligation?

You don't have to obey, you have no obligation, therefore, non-participation is MOST DEFINITELY an option.

Try again.

originally posted by: Shoujikina
I would've been extatic...

'Ecstatic'.