Those mysterious Fast Radio Bursts from space are back in the news

This topic has been discussed before on ATS (maybe not in this forum), but today's excited news media stories about the phenomenon will no doubt tickle you all over again, and since the source remains unknown, I'm sure the wisdom and vivid imaginations of the UFO forum can hammer some dents into this mystery. As some of you may remember, our awareness of the radio bursts is all down to this baby, CHIME...




Or rather the "Canadian Hydrogen Intensity Mapping Experiment" - a relatively new Canadian radio telescope in British Columbia that hopes to explore and solve some of the mysteries of astrophysics. Fast Radio Bursts (FRBs) initially detected over 500 bursts during its first year of operation from July 2018 to 2019 - these random emissions from Space are temporary, appearing for a few milliseconds or a fraction of that time. Furthermore, they stem from when the universe was 6 to 11 billion-years-old. [Cue some Black Vault music to put you in the mood].

These signals are presented this week at the American Astronomical Society Meeting, with questions about their origins varying from colliding stars to - what interests us in this forum - artificially created messages.

First detected in 2001, they were not taken seriously by scientists until 2007 due to their random, temporary nature, and were often poo-pooed as telescope glitches. But that all changed, to the point where they may help explain the structure and evolution of the universe, even if the sources remain unknown or possibly even alien. What is certain is that the sources are/were extremely energetic, and the more FRBs that are collated, the greater our chances for an explanation.

According to Kiyoshi Masui, assistant professor of physics at MIT, the waves encounter gas or plasma that can distort the waves' properties and trajectory through space - which also helps estimate the distance they traveled...

"This carries a record within it of the structure of the universe that it has traveled through on its way to get from the source to us. Because of this, we think that they are going to be the ultimate tool for studying the universe."

Not mentioned in today's press is that seven months ago, it was reported that one source had been detected on 28th April 2020 within our own galaxy, some 30,000 light-years sway - but you can stop wearing your plastic Delonge/Elizondo masks because that particular source is a highly magnetised dead neutron star called a Magnetar - a bizarre, compact object with matter compressed into a very small volume with an incredibly intense magnetic field.

Which is all well and good, but what turns us on in UFO forum on is an alternative view that these FRBs could potentially be used to propel alien spacecraft across the galaxies. Put THAT in your exotic pipe and smoke it, Mr Lazar...






Do ATSers in this forum have some further exotic explanations? Have a read of these links from today's press, with far more articulate accounts for the phenomenon than I can muster, including a BBC report from November 2020...


SOURCES:

edition.cnn.com...
www.dailymail.co.uk...
www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Do ATSers in this forum have some further exotic explanations?

Those that are well heeled in astrophysics and the sciences in general will say that travel of anything close to the speed of light, albeit communications or spacecraft; would be akin to cans and string and and bows and arrows, if you were considering communicating between star systems or traveling to them.

The warping of space/time or time travel itself will be the only way we will ever get to any other part of this galaxy, and as far as we know, we are not even close to that.

If ET exists, perhaps we can get it faster, but they may not want us infecting other places until we learn to not kill each other.

originally posted by: charlyv

If ET exists, perhaps we can get it faster, but they may not want us infecting other places until we learn to not kill each other.

This, all day long.

Covid is timely metaphor; the way we see that virus is probably pretty similar to the way far advanced civilisations see humans. The earth is quarantined and travel bans have doubtless been invoked for some time. Like star trek’s prime directive, but in reverse.

I’ve said it before around here and you’re obviously on the same page: Seeing the unfailing human propensity for division, greed, fear, irresponsible procreation and the war, disease, pestilence and famine these primitive animal behaviours lead to, what highly evolved species in its right mind would allow humans to pollinate beyond the enclosure of their own backyard?

In a perfect universe the wisdom needed to wield tools would always be learnt before the tools themselves were invented. Alas reality is far less ordered and our survival constantly hangs on a knife edge of learning wisdom after a tools creation. From axe to atom bomb, procreation to overpopulation.

Interstellar species must view countless world’s finally balanced at the edge of that precipice - a tipping point that may span a dozen millennia - with curiosity and apprehension; which will succeed and which will fail? An entertainment for fit for Gods.

But one thing is probably agreed among such highly evolved species: Though they may prod and influence, sometimes sending an emissary to do so, none of these primitive species, such as the Human, may ever be allowed the means to spread their kind beyond that backyard until success in evolving beyond those animal shortcomings is irrefutable.

I’d say human’s are still some distance from that - accomplishment perhaps 5050 at best.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
This topic has been discussed before on ATS (maybe not in this forum), but today's excited news media stories about the phenomenon will no doubt tickle you all over again, and since the source remains unknown, I'm sure the wisdom and vivid imaginations of the UFO forum can hammer some dents into this mystery. As some of you may remember, our awareness of the radio bursts is all down to this baby, CHIME...

Or rather the "Canadian Hydrogen Intensity Mapping Experiment" - a relatively new Canadian radio telescope in British Columbia that hopes to explore and solve some of the mysteries of astrophysics. Fast Radio Bursts (FRBs) initially detected over 500 bursts during its first year of operation from July 2018 to 2019 - these random emissions from Space are temporary, appearing for a few milliseconds or a fraction of that time. Furthermore, they stem from when the universe was 6 to 11 billion-years-old. [Cue some Black Vault music to put you in the mood].

These signals are presented this week at the American Astronomical Society Meeting, with questions about their origins varying from colliding stars to - what interests us in this forum - artificially created messages.

First detected in 2001, they were not taken seriously by scientists until 2007 due to their random, temporary nature, and were often poo-pooed as telescope glitches. But that all changed, to the point where they may help explain the structure and evolution of the universe, even if the sources remain unknown or possibly even alien. What is certain is that the sources are/were extremely energetic, and the more FRBs that are collated, the greater our chances for an explanation.

According to Kiyoshi Masui, assistant professor of physics at MIT, the waves encounter gas or plasma that can distort the waves' properties and trajectory through space - which also helps estimate the distance they traveled...

"This carries a record within it of the structure of the universe that it has traveled through on its way to get from the source to us. Because of this, we think that they are going to be the ultimate tool for studying the universe."

Not mentioned in today's press is that seven months ago, it was reported that one source had been detected on 28th April 2020 within our own galaxy, some 30,000 light-years sway - but you can stop wearing your plastic Delonge/Elizondo masks because that particular source is a highly magnetised dead neutron star called a Magnetar - a bizarre, compact object with matter compressed into a very small volume with an incredibly intense magnetic field.

Which is all well and good, but what turns us on in UFO forum on is an alternative view that these FRBs could potentially be used to propel alien spacecraft across the galaxies. Put THAT in your exotic pipe and smoke it, Mr Lazar...

Do ATSers in this forum have some further exotic explanations? Have a read of these links from today's press, with far more articulate accounts for the phenomenon than I can muster, including a BBC report from November 2020...


SOURCES:

edition.cnn.com...
www.dailymail.co.uk...
www.bbc.co.uk...

There has been research done to examine correlations between FRBs and Gamma Ray Bursts (GRBs), as there could be a common source driving both types of energetic emissions.

DISCOVERY OF A TRANSIENT GAMMA-RAY COUNTERPART TO FRB 131104

I find it interesting that the FRBs extraordinary events that generate as much energy in a thousandth of a second as the Sun does in an entire year! I believe that in the end we will find that these are naturally occurring events, that we have yet to understand. They seem to be more common than we once believed, and at some point we will figure out how they are produced.

a reply to: Havamal

That’s most likely.

Perhaps some kind of interaction between dark matter, or dark energy and the wavelengths and particles we can see and detect.

Then again, they could be the signatures of craft that use a means of propulsion or relocation that we’re unfamiliar with.

Or just the space farts of inter dimensional gods.

Magnetar

My current theory is that those bursts of communication; are perhaps some of the satellites that earth has launched into space.; so we are trying to communicate with ourselves.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Magnetar

Cool name for a dog.

a reply to: alexandrae

You are kidding, right?

By using triangulation several radio telescopes across the globe can quickly eliminates a local source. Most of these burst come from other galaxies, not our solar system.

Additionally, in the last year some FRB have found to repeat from the same source in the universe (not our solar system, nor galaxy).

EarthSky

Over 100 FRBs have been detected so far, originating in distant galaxies. What causes them is still a mystery, but theories include unusual phenomena associated with rapidly rotating neutron stars or merging black holes, or perhaps something that really is completely new to science. There is also still the popular possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence being involved, but so far there is no direct evidence for that, and FRBs appear to be widely distributed among far-flung galaxies, making a natural explanation more likely.

I believe the count of FRBs us up to almost 1,000 today.

originally posted by: alexandrae
My current theory is that those bursts of communication; are perhaps some of the satellites that earth has launched into space.; so we are trying to communicate with ourselves.

With the amount of power these FRB's contain, they sure aren't from our satellites. As much power as the Sun produces in one year in a millisecond.

We dont know if they are bursts of communication, means of travel, or my favourite at the moment, colliding stars.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
Do ATSers in this forum have some further exotic explanations?

Some kind of residual byproduct of a carrier wave from a "subspace' signal being sent to ET craft and probes wandering around the universe. Not communication by itself, but maybe like the EM noise generated by our own radio transmissions. The real communication takes place in non-physical dimensions allowing for instantaneous transmission from one end of the universe to the other. Oh, and these are leftover effects from old, old civilizations that have long since either died out or learned to negate distance and space altogether and no longer have a need for this kind of messaging. Just step through a door to go to another planet.

They're earmarks for the archive.

Blue Eisenhower November

When you discover what your reality has in common with a blockchain, you will discover that this Universe doesn't work the way most humans are expecting.

As one of the few that stumbled into something deeper regarding the nature of existence, I can say with some certainty, that the fast radio bursts are not ALL natural. Some certainly can be, but at the end of the day, they all carry the same message.

They are passing the baton, and one last wave into the nothing, is what they have left to offer.

These fast radio bursts have been happening for quite a long time, if you consider the relation that the transfer of energy has from one medium to the next, and that nothing in this Universe with mass, is independent of anything else in this Universe with mass...

You must realize, that your existence... The fact that you are reading my message right now, has been lead here, by FRB's that are more ancient than our planet, or even our star's existence.

These bursts of energy may have directly contributed to Earth as it stands today.

Why would they do that, if any of them were "artificial" or even if none of them are...

Something in the nature of this occurrence has reached us, and changed our past, present, and future.

Even this small forum post is part of something much larger, that you will all come to understand one day.

When you finally decode the most important signal, what will it really mean without the context of preparation and understanding that these must have?

Is the mind of God and the mind of nature, the same?

Where will YOU find your understanding of existence? You are here for something specific, or you wouldn't be here at all.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit
Not being a scientist of any type, I've often wondered what sort of radio signal phenomena that a SOL ship, with a null-mass propulsion unit, would look like to our instruments that noted the signals but which our scientists interpreted them as totally natural phenomena to fit a sustained inferiority complex of NIH (Not Invented Here).

You understand, like they have witnessed evidences of our day-in-day out UFO sightings for over seven decades and refused to acknowledge their existence as intelligent manipulations of natural physics?

a reply to: Havamal

Thanks for your reply; no I am not kidding; I am ignorant on this topic; it was just a thought.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

I am learning ... I do not know much about this topic; I lam hoping as time goes by I will understand more.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

FRBs certainly are a mystery and the addition of CHIME will hopefully help in finding the answer to the mystery , as much as I'd like it to be Alien signals I think the magnitude and power of these things makes that seem unlikely.


a reply to: SecretKnowledge

We dont know if they are bursts of communication, means of travel, or my favourite at the moment, colliding stars.

Colliding stars would be a plausible theory if it weren't for the repeaters , one such repeater was discovered last year that had a regular 16 day cycle.

As reported by Christopher Crockett in Science News on February 7, 2020, scientists using the Canadian Hydrogen Intensity Mapping Experiment (CHIME) radio telescope in British Columbia, Canada, have found that one of the repeaters does have regular bursts, in a cycle of about 16 days. This is the first time such regularity has been seen in an FRB. The discovery was made by Dongzi Li, an astrophysicist at the University of Toronto, and her colleagues.

The intriguing findings were published in a new peer-reviewed research paper on arXiv.org, on January 28, 2020.
earthsky.org...

Perhaps the answer is even wilder than we imagine.

a reply to: gortex

WOW! Repeaters??!!!

That makes these so mysteriously exciting. 16 day cycle? That is amazing.

I might have found a new mystery to explore.

Have you even an idea of what they are Gortex? Or what is your favourite theory on it at the moment?

originally posted by: alexandrae
a reply to: SecretKnowledge

I am learning ... I do not know much about this topic; I lam hoping as time goes by I will understand more.

Hey thats cool.

Many's the time ive put up what i thought something was only to be told the correct answer.

We come here to learn and deny ignorance

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

I think it's possible that Magnetars are responsible , perhaps we are seeing the birth of new Magnetars.

Magnetars are fearsome things , it makes sense they'd have a fearsome birth.