It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
The Cryptoterrestrials - Mac Tonnies.
What if the "aliens" are not from other planets? In this book, Mac Tonnies proposes that at least some accounts of alien visitation can be attributed to a humanoid species indigenous to the Earth, a sister race that has adapted to our numerical superiority by developing a surprisingly robust technology.
At the same time, this groundbreaking work attempts to reconcile the mythological and contemporary accounts of "little people" into a coherent picture. "For too long, we've called them 'aliens,' assuming that we represent our planet's best and brightest," writes Tonnies. "Maybe that's exactly what they want us to think."
This theory by late American author and blogger Mac Tonnies asserts that if we accept that UFOs are vehicles created by an advanced civilization and apply Occam’s razor, we can conclude that it is most likely the civilization originates from the Earth itself rather than a distant planet.
Tonnies suggests that we share our planet with a humanoid race much older than humanity but related to us (explaining their physical form) and more technologically advanced. He dubbed these entities the “cryptoterrestrials,” rejecting “ultraterrestrial” as too linked to theories of humanoid visitors from other dimensions and “cryptohominid” as too suggestive of Bigfoot.
Tonnies suggests the entities may be a dying civilization given to subterfuge by hiding underwater or underground. These entities promote and encourage the idea that UFOs are of extraterrestrial origin as a cover story to throw investigators off from the truth. Reports from abductees of aliens warning humanity to care for the Earth make more sense if they are fellow Earth residents rather than visitors from thousands of light-years away..
The US Air Force isn’t trying to cover up a threat from above, but the existence of another, slightly more advanced civilization below us. Tonnies admits that some alien encounters could very well be of extraterrestrial or interdimensional origin, but he believed the majority are the result of a deception campaign by a desperate, Earth-based military force of subterraneans hoping to keep our eyes fixed firmly on the skies.
Mac Tonnies was 34, a non-smoker, and vegetarian who walked every day. On October 18, 2009, he sent me a message on Twitter, went to bed and never woke up. His life was taken swiftly by an undiagnosed heart condition in his sleep. He became one of the bizarre deaths on my list.
Sanderson at several points suggested the possibility that the "occupants" of UFOs might be artificial life forms. He was not dogmatic about this, and also entertained the idea that they might be an as-yet unknown life-form indigenous to Earth. Still, the concept of UFOs as a form of artificial intelligence is fertile enough that we might have expected some follow-up.
Sanderson reminds us of the hard yet oft-forgotten fact of UFOlogy, which is, most UFOs seem inextricably connected with water - They are very frequently seen entering and leaving water, moving through or above water, and otherwise interacting with water.
Sanderson explores all the implications of this, leading him to postulate that most UFOs are actually USOs - Unidentified Submerged Objects, and their pilots, these other intelligences (OINTS), may have evolved alongside of humanity but under the sea.
Decades ago there was a man called 'Richard Shaver', who possessed a very unusual world view. He published various science fiction stories (his most well-known I think is 'I remember Lemuria'), which he claimed were actually true stories.
He claimed all sorts of wierd things, such as the earth being hollow and the inside of the earth being inhabited by highly advanced beings called 'Dero', and all sorts of wierd #. The general assumption is that he was either schizophrenic, or a hoaxer.
But unlike similar people (such as one guy I cant seem to find the name of, he sent letters to various media outlets about ppl actually being robots with their brains stored on the dark side of the moon and such), there are many people even today who believe that what he claimed was true, outrageous as it is and even though it clearly contradicts modern science.
The thing that tends to convince people that he was telling the truth, is the 'mantong alphabet'. He claimed that each letter of the English alphabet actually represented a word or concept, and that every word in English actually represented a sentence. For example, I believe he claimed that the word 'morbid' translates as 'I want to die'.
Looks like Zoologist Ivan T Sanderson was also speculating about cryptoterrestrials as far back as the 1960s (so not a relatively new concept).
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DragonsDemesne
Silurians have been on Earth a lot longer than humans.
originally posted by: Arnie123
Deep ocean, maybe one large cavernous pocket that could house a small civilization, the size of Japan, or Australia.
"UFOs have approximately 75% of this planet in which to operate undetected.Adding another piece to the puzzle. From dissimilar puzzle pieces supplied by ufologists throughout the years of UFO history, a picture is starting to take shape. Ufologist Carl Feindt has not only contributed his own small piece, but he has also connected many of the previous pieces to form an enlightening and highly plausible theory.Feindt’s studies concern Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) that enter and exit the dense medium of water.
John F. Schuessler, Former International Director of MUFON
originally posted by: LABTECH767
today there are a growing number of deep underground military bases that could be regarded as city's or huge bunker network's.
originally posted by: Baddogma
I just wanted to remind that sentient non humans on Earth goes back even further, perhaps back further than when our written records begin.
Fairy lore and pagan myths come to mind. Perhaps they weren't so "crypto" back when... if they exist, of course.
"The very concept of a parallel between modern ufology and ancient folklore is still occasionally challenged by believers in the theory that UFOs are nuts-and-bolts spacecraft"
Jacques Fabrice Vallée - Astronomer