a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ
In eastern Europe while the people suffered under totalitarian FALSE socialism and Communism's new elite the Party in much of Western Europe we
instead had WORKING socialism a mix of socialism and capitalism that struck the sweet spot, then in the 70's the Communists in Russia wanting to
destabilize the west infiltrated our Union's, our Labour Party and corrupted our working system by creating mass strikes and worse.
This culminated in a swing to the right in which Margarette Thatcher got into power, after her first two years her popularity rating's had bottomed
out and everyone was wanting to see her gone but then some idiot wanting to hold onto power in Argentina by the name of General Galtieri got it into
his head that it would be a good idea to invade the British over seas territory of the Falkland Islands which despite having no actual claim upon and
them being Never under independent Argentina's control (or for that Matter the control of Spain for about a hundred years before the Argentina became
an independent nation), this was a gift for Thatcher as it allowed her to rummage up a strike force and to then send our lad's to retake the Islands,
now despite her previously being extremely unpopular the British people whom felt very strongly about the Falklands and were outraged at Argentina's
invasion of OUR country then ended up voting her back in again.
The real reason Thatcher got into power in the first place was because Labour had a leader whom used to wear a donkey jacket (A popular work jacket
in the UK through the 60's and 70's) and try to be one of the lads despite him (Mr Foot) being in fact a university academic of a rather well off
background and family history.
In the UK we have Labour a moderate Socialist party that simply want's to end inequality, help the poor and create a humane society often infiltrated
and corrupted by both outside and more local forces that are NOT what the British people want such as Militant a bunch of Neo Communist crook's that
should NEVER have been a part of Labour or NEW LABOUR a closet Thatcherite movement that thinks' Labour should really be the Conservatives and that
when in power left the conservatives with no where to go but even further to the right.
If you are coming at this from an Eastern European point of view then sorry but you most definitely do not get it.
Labour gave us National housing schemes and after the war we abolished homelessness, labour took control (BOUGHT OUT not stole) many major industry's
(but it became a millstone around there neck when it came to company's the government should never have nationalized such as British Leyland etc),
Subsidised (that is PAID) major PRIVATELY OWNED company's to keep there factory's going through bad times and to keep people in there Job's, Gave us a
COMPREHENSIVE national health system that used to be free for all in our country but under NEW LABOUR and the Conservatives it is now often only free
for SOME in areas such as dentistry or paying for your Prescriptions (We used to also OWN our own pharmaceutical and had the best scientists in the
world that were constantly being poached by private company's in the US and other places), we also had FREE education up and including adult education
at university level, non of this student Loan crap or skyrocketing university fee's that are dividing our nation into have and have not's.
Now after more than thirty years of right wing government (including New Labour) we have homelessness greater than any time since the second world
war, chronic sickness and people being ejected from our benefits and fraudulently being hidden from the statistics through a regime of benefit
sanctioning, without government subsidies our industry is almost non existent.
I'm sorry but if you are coming at it for example from a former Czech or other eastern European point of view then you really have NO idea about
British politics even if you have lived over here for more than twenty years, you would have had to live through at least part of the 70's and to have
had family on both sides of our political divide to have a better grasp of the real issues for us Brits.
But You DO make a good point, most of the time Keir look's like he REALLY, REALLY wants to be on the other side of the house, he looks like he feel's
really uncomfortable being stuck with the Labour side of the house, you can read it in his eyes and on his face most of the time.
edit on 19-4-2021 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)