Parallels between religion and Wokeism

a reply to: Peeple

Horses usually wear blinkers in society - keep em on

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

In discussions when one party doesn't have any arguments left, they start making personal attacks.
So what I'm reading is you admit defeat.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: 19Bones79

Give it some time. Eventually it becomes personal for all of us to wonder what happens when we die.

And then there's this disconnect.

If what you wrote isn't the epitome of self-centeredness, I don't know what is.

a reply to: 19Bones79

Well yes I won't deny that, I don't know why you make me quote myself all the time

it tells you you your thoughts and actions, your intentions, your existence matter.

God doesn't judge you for the tribe you're born into. Politics and society do.

There are several layers to existence.
Me as individual who is free to ask questions about existence which may or may not lead me towards religion.

And society and politics, the me of many, where my individuality is natura rerum limited

God doesn't judge you for the tribe you're born into. Politics and society do.

a reply to: Peeple
Perhaps it can be interesting and amusing, but it is difficult to discuss things of this nature with one whom has no personal experience with the very nature of communing with the creator. The person is simply looking from without onto a relationship they have never had and will not understand until experienced, much like falling in love with a spouse/partner. One can only express or witness to their own experience. My personal relationship with the creator cannot be transcribed into an argument for someone who has never experienced it themselves.
I know it sounds patronizing. I recall when my eldest daughter chastised my younger daughter for giving up so much personal "power" when she married, and didn't understand it until she found and loved another so much that she has done the same.

a reply to: Zrtst


Hmmm. Sounds a lot like critical race theory. How can I as a white man possibly understand what black people have gone through unless I go through it myself?

Should I repent or bend a knee?

Will there be spiritual reparations against my soul for all my misgivings?

Will I be judged?

Are these parallels?

a reply to: 19Bones79

So? Religion also isn't only bible-swinging Christianity, believe it or not. I call them DeathCult, ask Disraeli
and personally believe they were all seduced by Satan to worship him in/&/as human form...
But that stuff is certainly too advanced for you

But for context's sake Samuel was written 550bc when there not only was barely any distinction between magic and religion, let alone politics and religion.
Those books have more to do with historical politics and justification for war than anything else.

"Wokeism" is indeed a religion. It is communism.

Communism is the religion of atheist.

Here is a good starter on the subject.
Encyclical of Pope Pius XI on Atheistic Communism

In this sense, communism is a theocracy, with a total absence of church, relying in the state only as the moral authority for the populace.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: 19Bones79


But for context's sake Samuel was written 550bc when there not only was barely any distinction between magic and religion, let alone politics and religion.
Those books have more to do with historical politics and justification for war than anything else.

Historical politics and justification for war...


And here we are discussing the parallels between religion and wokeism.





As far as apologetics goes, that's a pretty lame apology dude.


Is the bible not the word of (G)od?

Are you saying they made it up?

a reply to: 19Bones79

Yes.

Well not 'made it up' it's like a record of their perceived reality at that time.

Historical politics and justification for war...
And here we are discussing the parallels between religion and wokeism.

You're doing it again.

In the Western World Church and religion are seperated since the French Revolution ca 230 years ago.

a reply to: carlncarl

No communism is not a religion, that’s just dumb
Atheism “can” be called a faith but, atheism is not a religion either

Why, just why

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: Raggedyman

If you're unsure, simply debunk each of my comparisons.

I was going to but they were pretty vague
The whole discourse was pretty vague

No offence but, I just didn’t find anything that made the “Woke” belief relatable to ceremony to influence gods
Maybe I don’t see any spiritual context to wokeism, I think that debunks your opinion
Not saying I completely disagree with the pretext you offered

a reply to: 19Bones79
Actually, "nationalism" is likely to be the immediate heading. One of the later volumes.

a reply to: 19Bones79

Clearly no comprehension of the bible
The Amalekites were worse than ISIS, brutal beyond humanity
Gods judgement was probably mercy as opposed to what is in your head

It’s going to happen again, it’s going to be a judgement not unlike what happened to the Amalekites

a reply to: 19Bones79

I see Wokism the same as a Theocracy.

Both are authoritarian.
Both are antithesis of freedom.
Both allow no dissent.

a reply to: Raggedyman

That sounds good. I would love to see God smite the Woke.

a reply to: carlncarl

Cool theory bro.


Except I'm an atheist and one of the biggest Trump fans on ATS.

a reply to: Raggedyman

In response I offer a challenge: convince someone from the woke cult they are not, in fact, enlightened.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: 19Bones79

Yes.

Well not 'made it up' it's like a record of their perceived reality at that time.

Their perceived reality at that time....


You mean their god and what actions they attribute to him did not really happen, and their god is also the god of your perceived reality at this time?