Robert Bigelow clears the air about Bob Lazar and those who spread false rumors

Looks like we can lay yet another untrue rumor about Bob Lazar to rest along with the "Bob Lazar stole 500 lbs of element 115 from Area 51" rumor that certain members insist on continually quoting. As I said before you should NEVER listen to these members ever again when it comes to the subject of Bob Lazar.

"Secrets of Area 51: Beginnings, Bob Lazar, facts and fantasies

Lazar’s critics have long claimed that Bigelow cut off ties with Lazar because he determined that Lazar was a fraud. That is not what Bigelow told Mystery Wire. “Bob was intriguing because he knew so much,” Bigelow said during the recent interview. “He’s a smart guy. He’s no dummy. He’s a smart man. He’s a smart guy. And very creative. And so, again, I say that the preponderance of evidence to me is in his favor, that he’s he’s, he’s, by and large, legitimate.” In the new interview, Bigleow talks about Lazar showing him what turned out to be pieces of aerogel. At the time, Lazar explained the aerogel arrived as packaging material surrounding a piece of Element 115 that had been shipped to him. Lazar did not know what aerogel was, only that it came from the same place as the 115. Over the years, critics of Lazar have alleged that he lied to Bigelow by asserting the aerogel was the same as 115. No such claim was ever made by Lazar.

Bob Lazar

“There are two types of Aerogel when it comes to interaction with water – Hydrophobic (repels water) and Hydrophilic (absorbs water). The silica Aerogel we had at that time was hydrophilic silica aerogel. It is known for, and used as an ultra efficient adsorbent. It does in fact absorb more than 5X its weight in water, which is what I measured testing the unknown material back then.” BOB LAZAR

Bigelow confirmed to Mystery Wire that Lazar never claimed the aerogel was the mysterious Element 115. Bigelow says Lazar did assert the aerogel could absorb five times its weight in water. Bigelow later found a magazine article which explained the origin of aerogel, but he found no evidence aerogel was highly absorbent. This confusion is the source of allegations that Bigelow parted ways with Lazar because Lazar lied to him about aerogel being Element 115. In reality, this never happened and now, Bigelow has set the record straight. According to NASA, “aerogels are among the lightest solid materials known to man. They are created by combining a polymer with a solvent to form a gel, and then removing the liquid from the gel and replacing it with air. Aerogels are extremely porous and very low in density. They are solid to the touch. This translucent material is considered one of the finest insulation materials available.” Robert Bigelow answered questions about Lazar and other topics he’s investigated over the past 30 years, in part because he is promoting his newest venture, the Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies, or BICS. Bigelow, known for his funding of UFO research projects, launched the new project last week. BICS is holding a global essay contest seeking input from scientists, religious scholars, consciousness researchers, and anyone else who can provide evidence of an afterlife. As an incentive, BICS will award $500,000 for the top essay, $300,000 for the second best, and $150,000 for third place. EDITOR’S NOTE: The original story was updated to add Bob Lazar’s statement about the aerogel rumors.

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a reply to: A51Watcher
Threads already discussed. Nice post..

Thanks for posting. The Bigelow interview is quite lengthy and covers some more on Lazar. Well worth watching. The whole thing (in pieces) is under Mystery Wire on YouTube.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: A51Watcher
Threads already discussed. Nice post..

That may be the case but the primary purpose of this thread is to point out the lack of credibility by certain members who have a penchant for reposting untrue claims from their favorite debunker site without ANY fact checking on the veracity of these claims.

These members should not be listened to on anything to do with Bob Lazar or ANY subject dealing with UAP/UFOs.

I agree. In previous threads (long ago) I came down hard on Lazar, influenced by Friedman and others, particularly concerning his educational background. But after several years I have come to the conclusion that I can see how all this happened, and I have come to believe in the essentials of Lazar's story. I think he has gotten a bad rap by a lot of people who only know the barest essentials of Lazar. It's easy to be superficial, and face it. How much do you really now about Lazar that you have not read in ATS comments? And how convenient for the government to encourage Lazar bashing. He deserves a serious look from a contemporary perspective.

originally posted by: schuyler
I agree. In previous threads (long ago) I came down hard on Lazar, influenced by Friedman and others, particularly concerning his educational background. But after several years I have come to the conclusion that I can see how all this happened, and I have come to believe in the essentials of Lazar's story. I think he has gotten a bad rap by a lot of people who only know the barest essentials of Lazar. It's easy to be superficial, and face it. How much do you really now about Lazar that you have not read in ATS comments? And how convenient for the government to encourage Lazar bashing. He deserves a serious look from a contemporary perspective.

"How much do you really now about Lazar that you have not read in ATS comments?"

Well, quite a bit actually. Unlike most people, shortly after Bob spilled the beans about Area 51, I got off my duff and drove out there to investigate his claims. I saw and filmed the same saucers Bob and friends saw out there before they got caught, in the same place and time Bob said they would be. I also almost got caught but narrowly managed to escape with my footage.

And surprise surprise, my raw footage and forensically enhanced footage turned out to be nearly identical to Bobs.

Bob and friends managed to look through a celestron telescope and I got a close look also when then landed about a 1/4 mile away when the control tower issued a intruder with camera alert.

That is how I know Bob was telling the truth.

Robert Bigelow stating that Bob Lazar is "by and large legitimate", still doesn't convince me, that Bob Lazar, is not the fraud he has been accused of being. For me the fact that Bob Lazar is a fraud, is overwhelmingly proven.

originally posted by: vance
Robert Bigelow stating that Bob Lazar is "by and large legitimate", still doesn't convince me, that Bob Lazar, is not the fraud he has been accused of being. For me the fact that Bob Lazar is a fraud, is overwhelmingly proven.

Not everyone has a high enough IQ to know when something is legit or not. Just keep going the way you have been and life will go on. You needn't worry about these things.

a reply to: A51Watcher

Is your footage posted here?

Why do people keep propping up this fairy tale...

It's time for the Vegas UFO mafia to give up on these cockamamie stories and retire.

Here's best buddy George Knapp.



He is claiming....

... Bob said that the key to it was this element 115 he had a piece of it. I saw it in Vegas. He had that piece. I saw the experiment. What happened to it? That's a story for another time. It's in a spot now where nobody could get to it. But it's still there. One of these days maybe after Bob's gone I'll go dig it up

So what's the excuse for denying the ultimate proof?

Because otherwise what did Bob Lazar ever prove about his cockamamie story? His name is Bob Lazar maybe.

That's the only thing that's important. Of all his fantastic claims.

What did Bob Lazar ever prove?

originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: A51Watcher

Is your footage posted here?

HERE IT IS
Go to his profile theres more threads with the same work done

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Not everyone has a high enough IQ to know when something is legit or not.

Let's test your own IQ then.

What is 'legitimate' about Bob's story?

a reply to: A51Watcher

I believe in Robert Bigelow and I also believe Robert Lazar. Many here continue to dump on both to this day. Possibly they are hired disinformation specialists.

So do tell just where do I get my stuff. From the book Mind Games as written by former priest Richard Thieme who writes that most in the world must be written as fiction ore else you will disappear.

Think about it as To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science was registered as "entertainment" So because of that many bailed on Bigelow and Lazar. Those in my opinion swim in the shallow end.

Just look up Richard Thieme and to whom he speaks.

Quite impressive

a reply to: mirageman

What is 'legitimate' about Bob's story?

The flashing-pulsating UFO;s that he filmed in the desert and the radical maneuvers they made. I know as We witnessed them here in May 2018.

They also appear in the sky as this in a February 2021 MUFON report with video. Here's link:

UFO Sighting (US-02262021-0025) Goose Creek, South Carolina on February 26, 2021

My question to you is do the aliens use deodorant?

a reply to: A51Watcher

So you’re just simply taking the word of one UfO High Priest over another one.

What makes you think Bigelow is some principled truth-teller??

He’s been involved with all of the shady intel people involved in the UFO carrot-on-a-stick and never any real substance for decades. I would urge you to consider that.

Hint: Clearly they’re both full of sh!t.

I think it is obvious why Bob Lazar has been so thoroughly trashed over the years. And yet, but by bit, his information seems to hold true despite everyone’s best efforts.

We are being lied to on an epic scale. Is Bob part of that lie or a beacon of truth I still don’t know, but I’m edging towards the light.

a reply to: ARM1968

I find it interesting how people keep pushing the lie that Lazar predicted anything that has proven to be true

I'm no disinformation agent by any stretch. I'm just saying that it's been proven to me that he lied about his education and for me, his experience with "aliens". I will admit, he was hired by some contractor to do some job for the government, but I don't know if it was any more significant than janitorial services - I just don't know. He had my attention when the story broke all those years ago. He lost it when real physicist accused him of being a phony. It's kinda like fake 'navy seals', the real Navy Seals know that they are lying, even though they claim 'classified', 'sealed' status. I tend to believe the real seals, just as I do real physicist.
As far as the troll and his assessment of my IQ, I don't have the time for such ****.

a reply to: Waterglass

My question to you is do the aliens use deodorant?

I believe this failed product was launched in 2017 specially for them.



But instead of masking the stench coming out of Vegas from the ageing spooks and kooks, it was just full of hot air and proved useless. Fortunately very few people bought it.

originally posted by: MagnificatMafia
a reply to: ARM1968

I find it interesting how people keep pushing the lie that Lazar predicted anything that has proven to be true

Can you list Lazar's predictions ?

Not inferenced, just plain straight forward where he has said I predict....