New Orleans archdiocese urges Catholics to avoid new Johnson & Johnson vaccine

(RNS) — The Catholic Archdiocese of New Orleans has declared the COVID-19 vaccine developed by Johnson & Johnson “morally compromised” and asked Catholics to avoid it if given the choice, citing concerns about the use of cells with distant ties to abortion “in development and production.”
The archdiocese issued the statement on Friday (Feb. 26), stating that while the decision regarding whether to get a vaccine is an individual choice, “the latest vaccine from Janssen/Johnson & Johnson is morally compromised as it uses the abortion-derived cell line in development and production of the vaccine as well as the testing.”

New Orleans archdiocese urges Catholics to avoid new Johnson & Johnson vaccine

I find this interesting for several reasons....first a Catholic admonishment of at least one form of the current vaccine.

Secondly, an “against my religion” out of this for millions of Americans.

Would SCOTUS agree if it becomes forced?

I thought the Johnson and Johnson vaccine was superior because it doesn’t use mRNA. Not that I would get it, but still less scary. Good thing I am not Catholic.

originally posted by: Metallicus
I thought the Johnson and Johnson vaccine was superior because it doesn’t use mRNA. Not that I would get it, but still less scary. Good thing I am not Catholic.

What is the term of superior? The mRNA vaccines are far more effective (95% vs 72%). I guess in terms of people's comfort level the J&J vaccine is your 'traditional' one.

Reminds me of the movie "The Golden Child"

If he eats food contaminated with human blood, they can kill him. He becomes vulnerable.

The vaccine starting to remind me of black magic and rituals. The vaccine itself could have, (because of the immoral ingredients), have been actuated using black magic ritual as part of the process to make it what it truly is.

Obviously I don't know if any of that is true, but it's already bad enough if what this archdiocese says is true. And if it is, it will have a spiritual thing attached to it, that is not good for anyone knowingly taking it with that info in mind. Maybe even if a person doesn't know that part and takes the vaccine, could still have spiritually negative effects.

I'll pass.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
Reminds me of the movie "The Golden Child"

If he eats food contaminated with human blood, they can kill him. He becomes vulnerable.

The vaccine starting to remind me of black magic and rituals. The vaccine itself could have, (because of the immoral ingredients), have been actuated using black magic ritual as part of the process to make it what it truly is.

Obviously I don't know if any of that is true, but it's already bad enough if what this archdiocese says is true. And if it is, it will have a spiritual thing attached to it, that is not good for anyone knowingly taking it with that info in mind. Maybe even if a person doesn't know that part and takes the vaccine, could still have spiritually negative effects.

I'll pass.

Exactly....maybe the bigger question is why would anyone willingly inject cells from a dead fetus into their body? I’m not Catholic but this seems to be a valid religious objection to the shot.

a reply to: Signals

Ide go even further and say if those cells are indeed in the vaccine, then it's a crime against human decency and expands much further than a religious objection. It goes against everything decent about humanity.

Haven’t we come up with a way to grow stem cells in a lab? Why even continue with this method, is it more cost effective?

What kind of sick person wants to inject dead baby cells into their body?

What if there is a higher, moral issue going on here, that could affect ones path in the afterlife?

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
Reminds me of the movie "The Golden Child"

If he eats food contaminated with human blood, they can kill him. He becomes vulnerable.

The vaccine starting to remind me of black magic and rituals. The vaccine itself could have, (because of the immoral ingredients), have been actuated using black magic ritual as part of the process to make it what it truly is.

Obviously I don't know if any of that is true, but it's already bad enough if what this archdiocese says is true. And if it is, it will have a spiritual thing attached to it, that is not good for anyone knowingly taking it with that info in mind. Maybe even if a person doesn't know that part and takes the vaccine, could still have spiritually negative effects.

I'll pass.

Don't forget the Luciferase. I have my own biblical ideas where this is all going, shared by many fellow bible reading believers.

The world wide web is not just a cyber term for web site addresses. Strange term of choice anyway. A web is a trap... Now where again does Bill Gates fit in all this?

Everything comes with spiritual attachment, a truth sadly lost to the average person. Even our words become spirit, so watch what you say and speak truth.

These vaccines look very suspect in every way. Watch out for the lunatics tightening the noose real soon.

a reply to: Signals

I wonder how many products we use every day have "distant ties to aborted fetus research"?

a reply to: Signals

Sigh. Science.

Funny how serious Christians including often Catholics are often very skeptical of natural selection and say it doesn’t exist because of God’s creation?

But if those same people refuse to get the vaccine for this reason and then disproportionately perish, that is the epitome of natural selection.

That’s so ironic it’s actually uncanny.

a reply to: Signals

Wowww guys. “From a cell line” is not the same as using actual cells from aborted fetuses. It means that was potentially the initial source of the FIRST cells or components of cells that WERE the cultivated in labs and then much much much much later when they aren’t the same cells even remotely, components of those may be used in the vaccine.

Did no one take middle school science? Mitosis? Meiosis? Anyone?

It’s no wonder lack of education is linked to these misconceptions.

a reply to: Signals

I don't think it will become forced. There are way too many people who still wouldn't take it. But if it did become a requirement and someone said no because of their religion then I don't think SCOTUS would want to get involved.

a reply to: ravenshadow13

Soooooo, do you think the SCOTUS will get involved or are you just dropping in to bash people because they believe in something you don't?

a reply to: ravenshadow13

Catholics in general are not Christians. I'm not fond of man made religion either. It has turned into a mockery in most churches.

Natural selection is clearly a thing. I also believe in an almighty sovereign creator. The reason science can't give the biggest answers and never will. The spirit realm spoke science into existence.

originally posted by: ravenshadow13
a reply to: Signals

Sigh. Science.

Funny how serious Christians including often Catholics are often very skeptical of natural selection and say it doesn’t exist because of God’s creation?

But if those same people refuse to get the vaccine for this reason and then disproportionately perish, that is the epitome of natural selection.

That’s so ironic it’s actually uncanny.

I’m catholic... got my first and second dose already.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Signals

I don't think it will become forced. There are way too many people who still wouldn't take it. But if it did become a requirement and someone said no because of their religion then I don't think SCOTUS would want to get involved.

The vaccine will be "back door" forced upon us. The few people who don't shop in person, or attend public events, or fly on planes, might be able to get away with not being vaccinated. But not those who do things where other people are nearby.

a reply to: carewemust

They can kiss butt. I don't give a care about the vaccine or what they think if I don't take one. My area is way too America First Conservative to make us vaccinate. I'll just have to avoid Shreveport which I already do. If necessary, I'll find a fake vac document.

originally posted by: Bunch

originally posted by: ravenshadow13
a reply to: Signals

Sigh. Science.

Funny how serious Christians including often Catholics are often very skeptical of natural selection and say it doesn’t exist because of God’s creation?

But if those same people refuse to get the vaccine for this reason and then disproportionately perish, that is the epitome of natural selection.

That’s so ironic it’s actually uncanny.

I’m catholic... got my first and second dose already.

I know a few missionaries who boldly braved the jabs for traveling purposes. We are promised no weapons formed against us will prosper. I never voluntarily test that protection, although I'm aware of organically receiving it many times.

May you be blessed and protected, and guided by The Holy Spirit.

The wife decided she will wait for the J&J vaccine. I showed her the numbers and it appears to have way less severe side effects than the moderna and pfiser ones. She does not have autoimmune issues and her genetics show less autoimmune issues or troubles with anything it does cause.

www.yahoo.com...

Serious side effects of the pfiser vaccine appear to be .5 percent, but this number excludes people who have had severe reactions to vaccines and allergies to meds and foods. those are much more of a risk factor. They omited testing those people. Now .5 percent does not sound bad, but in the UP there are about three hundred thirty thousand people, and that means that about sixteen hundred will have serious side effects or die. Numbers are used against us more than to help us.

I won't be taking the covid vaccine, I have autoimmune issues, am intolerant to the companion chemistries, and have had pretty serious reactions to the flu and DTAP vaccine. Nobody is going to talk me into taking the vaccine. I may think about the J&J vaccine later on if it turns out to be safe for those with allergies to vaccines and also it depends on what the carrier chemistry is. I have not found out what that is yet, maybe in a few weeks the whole formula will be released.

The pfizer and maderna vaccines are not safe at all for some people. The government stating they are safe and effective is a lie, sure the small side effects will probably not kill most people, but for those who are susceptible to the major side effects they are dangerous.

Just so there's no connection to J&J talcum powder research and we're all set 😃