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Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

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posted on Aug, 31 2022 @ 09:05 AM
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Oooops I forgot June 2019 when the beards, Bob and America's finest trained observer of unidentified objects all got a room together.



Here they are trying to work out how to operate a TV remote control.
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posted on Aug, 31 2022 @ 09:25 AM
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Spooks, Lies and UFO Conferences.


There's another conference brewing soon in ufology with Linda speaking , Mr Mellon and some charletons. It's very pricey too if you want the better seats bla bla.




edit on 31-8-2022 by Baablacksheep because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 31 2022 @ 09:29 AM
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Anybody seen this article ?

www.thedrive.com...

Smells like Chinese quadcopters.


edit on 31-8-2022 by TheGreazel because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 31 2022 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

He's probably going through ghostwriters.

A few make money. Michael Salla's crazy books sell. He's got some kind of cult following.

And a few others



posted on Aug, 31 2022 @ 10:09 AM
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Their weaponizing their ignorance



posted on Sep, 5 2022 @ 03:57 AM
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Interesting, very interesting....





Even more so considering the history of the company,



...Consolidated Nuclear Security, has operated the Y-12 National Security Complex in Oak Ridge and the Pentax plant in Texas on behalf of National Nuclear Security Administration since 2014. It replaced the previous contractor, B&W, after antinuclear protesters broke into Y-12 in 2012. B&W protested its termination for much of 2013.

The National Nuclear Security Administration is the part of the Department of Energy responsible for maintaining and securing the nuclear weapon's stockpile. Many of its facilities are managed and maintained by federal defense contractors, who run the day-to-day production work.

Consolidated's contract is due to expire Sept. 30, 2021. “The National Nuclear Security Administration’s decision is disappointing, but it does not overshadow the important work performed by the patriots who come to work every day at our sites,” Consolidated Nuclear Security spokesperson Jason Bohne said in a written statement. In its annual contractor report card, the National Nuclear Security Administration outlines several critical problems with Consolidated Nuclear Security's management of Y-12. National Nuclear Security Administration said that Consolidated Nuclear Security had failed to correct serious, longstanding performance problems that “perpetuated unacceptable risk to the overall operation of the National Nuclear Security Administration.” These issues included problems with “criticality safety” and cyber security....

Nuclear defense agency jettisons federal defense contractor at Y-12 over safety concerns





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posted on Sep, 5 2022 @ 10:56 AM
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RE: Above post.

It would seem this is another guy with the same name. He's been working at CNS going back well over a decade.

Link



posted on Sep, 6 2022 @ 01:51 AM
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Here's Zondo talking about killing ufology.


www.liberationtimes.com...





posted on Sep, 6 2022 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

And if anyone publicly expresses disagreement, they should prepare to receive incoming 'Lawyer Intimidation' on behalf of Louise Elizando.




posted on Sep, 6 2022 @ 06:10 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

Exactly that. Its all cute waffle I must say though.






posted on Sep, 6 2022 @ 09:14 AM
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So, Zondo is working for the DOE?

He retired onto another nondescript job.
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posted on Sep, 6 2022 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: Baablacksheep
Here's Zondo talking about killing ufology.


www.liberationtimes.com...





Hey Lue!



👽



posted on Sep, 6 2022 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: mirageman



……”Hey, guy’s check this out……I discovered it on my nerd calculator. If you do this and you do that….then turn it upside down …… it spells …. shell oil.



Do you think it means anything…ah, ah, an Alien message??”…..

👽



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posted on Sep, 6 2022 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1


It's called the "wishing game".






posted on Sep, 6 2022 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: mirageman

So, Zondo is working for the DOE?

He retired onto another nondescript job.



No. A case of mistaken identity.

I am 99% certain that it's another guy with the same name as him.

He's referenced in a report dating back to 2011 investigating an accident with a Laser device.



posted on Sep, 8 2022 @ 04:11 AM
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There's some drama in this blog....

My search for the truth about UFOs: Part 3 — “Red Flags, Red Flags Everywhere!”

It's a long read andt here are a few "edited highlight"s...Read the full article for context.


Sean [Cahill] stated, quite matter-of-factly, that Lt. Cmdr. Fravor didn’t think the TicTac incident was actual. His exact words were that he thought it was “fake....He thought it was fake or our[s] and he was sure. Didn’t believe in anything past a black program and acted like he knew better....

.... then continued to say that “Fravor’s the kind of guy who, if I was still a Chief, he’s the kind of guy whose ass I would have kicked. He’s the kind of commander that I would have berated in front of his commanding officers for stupidity.” ...





...Sean, he told me a story. He began explaining that he had constantly been seeing what he called “silver basketballs” hovering over and around his house. But then they stopped. In an audio message he sent me over the Signal App, he alluded to the idea that he couldn’t see the silver basketballs anymore because he had put his meditation practice down for a more “neutral scientific” approach. I took this as Sean’s way of trying to get me to stay off the science and stay on the woo...This was a red flag. Why would looking at the science be a killer for seeing silver basketballs? Why would Lue not associate with Fravor, ESPECIALLY if Fravor thought it was US Technology? .






....Sean would continue over the next several weeks, giving us hot takes of Putoff, Semivan, the Bledsoes, Greer, and many others. It seemed to me there were two faces to the whole UFO story…there was the public-facing story where everyone is aligned, working for a common goal, and the more personal story where everyone worked from a competing level of interest, ideas, and thoughts — and behind that door of privacy, things were a bit nasty....



.... Sean had been talking rather insistently about the idea that the phenomena is a control structure and spoke about how he believed that the Ancient Egyptian god Osiris was alien artificial intelligence used by entities to control humanity.



I met Lue's wife.....She was furious that Lue wasn’t getting a slice of the financial pie for “this contract” and that, at a minimum, they (Lue and Sean) should reach out “to the CO” and get them to “at least assign you a Yeoman for administrative things.”

I didn’t key in on that at the time, but in retrospect, two things now jump out at me. First is the fact that she referenced a contract, and second is the use of the term “yeoman,”; signifying an association with the US Navy.




Lue looked right at me, glanced at Sean, nodded — and looked back to me and stated, “Boys, I’m going to tell you something. Everyone thinks I left the Government. I didn’t.”




....November 29th, 2020, I fielded a report from an Army Captain who was in the process of witnessing a UFO event near the Indian Point nuclear facility in New York. The individual called me as the event occurred, and I took the report. I notified Lue, who asked if he could have my source’s permission to share the report with the new [UAPTF] Task Force Commander. When I gave the affirmative,

Lue replied, “Copy…under no circumstances can the general public know that the report has been shared with the USG. This is a gentleman’s game, and mutual trust is of primary importance. The price of the ticket to play the game is knowing that you will never be able to tell anyone you are helping folks on the inside.” I bought this hook, line, and sinker — I felt special that I was so closely involved with some clandestine back-door effort of the USG.....All I know is that now, I feel as if I was played. But that event backed up what Lue told me on his porch — that he never left the USG.




It wasn’t long before someone brought up the topic of Remote Viewing, a “thing” that I didn’t and still don’t put much stock in. .....At that time, the biggest show of bull# I’ve ever seen came wafting my way — straight from the man himself: Mr. Luis Elizondo.

Lue was sitting directly to my right....someone who was apparently a member of The Aviary and maintained (apparently) direct communication with the current UAPTF commander…someone who was previously with the DIA and had apparent ties to the Monroe Institute… was “remote viewing me, in the future....he went on to tell me that my daughter would go to one of the most prestigious universities in the United States and that I would fare a lot better than my ex-wife who was going to suffer from drug addiction..

At that very moment, I had a bit of a flashback to the ride up to Wyoming with Sean .... looking for pieces of information that Lue could have received 2nd hand by way of Sean. And all the pieces started falling in place for me.... I don’t have one daughter; I have two.... I never mentioned my oldest daughter to Sean .... Likewise, I never told anyone I had been married TWICE before my current and amazing wife....The ex-wife I was referring to is a health addict, a gym rat, a marathon runner — someone who is addicted to fitness....it appeared that Sean had misunderstood, combined with not knowing I was twice previously married, and told Lue that my ex had an addiction issue — which appears to have been exploited by Lue during his “remote viewing of me in the future.” It was all garbage, smoke, and mirrors....



I think that's more than enough for people to decide whether they want to read the full piece or not. Treat it like any other narrative unless further corroborating evidence comes to light.



posted on Sep, 8 2022 @ 04:00 PM
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As Seen On TV…….The Pope Pulpit

See the vid…

Mysterious objects seen over several states

👽
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posted on Sep, 9 2022 @ 10:26 PM
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I read the long story (the first two pages are useless) , in my opinion there are some interesting considerations.

- It seems that Sean is moving from a new age thought (love and light, Galactic Empire) to a Gnostic belief
Or he is mixing the two views ...
Delonge is also mixing the different opinions
Apparently many people are rediscovering Gnosticism but they have a superficial approach



Sean began a trip down a road where he appeared to believe that the phenomena were part of a control construct designed to entrap and enslave humanity. He expressed beliefs to me that we are on a prison planet, inside of a nearly infinite loop of constant repeats, “until we get it right.”
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Sean was, in my opinion, absolutely convinced that everything about the phenomena was a danger, a threat — not just in the aspect of nuts and bolts and laser beams but that the “entities” or “those responsible” for the phenomena were somehow feeding on humanity. He believed that UFOs were in the process of removing people’s consciousness from their bodies and replacing it with something different. He was lashing out at the UFO community, calling people “fools” for not having a clue what kind of control the UFO technology allows.


- About Fravor
I believe that Fravor does not distinguish what he saw from what he believes he saw, it often happens with UFO sightings.

- The statements that disappoint me are: Elizondo who predicts the future like a fortune teller and its links with Masonry and Monroe Institute

From this story I draw only one conclusion: these people are quite confused, I do not see a unique thought but a mixture of beliefs already known by ufology. So they don't know the truth but only a few details, like Delonge

But I have two suspicions:
- the story is not sincere
- Elizondo is a spy who plays in a spy game



posted on Sep, 9 2022 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: Baablacksheep
Here's Zondo talking about killing ufology.
www.liberationtimes.com...

Reform ufology? For what reason?
It is impossible to reform ufology without more concrete elements
He must limit himself to tell his story, like Phil Corso before him
I think he's making a big mistake, as often happens in ufology, or he's on a mission for the Pentagon.
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posted on Sep, 10 2022 @ 01:10 AM
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Ufology will always have the ufos and aliens are demons type people, as it will have the ufos and aliens are angels or good guys folks.

And you’ll have the skeptics to varying degrees and those always harping on what I think is ridiculous (since it's already been done) talk of WHY ISNT GOVERNMENT TELLING US OR HAVING SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATIONS.
And of course, the ufotainmet groupies.

And so you'll have the: I WANT TO FIND THE TRUTH OF UFOS--searchers, the Don Quixote types who will get into one of these groups and realize he can't find any truth, just belief.



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