Can you drink "heavy vodka" with heavy water?

Everyone knows what "heavy water" or deuterium oxide is. Heavy hydrogen water has the same chemical formula as ordinary water, but instead of two atoms of the usual light isotope of hydrogen (protium) it contains two atoms of the heavy isotope of hydrogen - deuterium, and its oxygen in isotopic composition corresponds to oxygen in the air. The formula for heavy hydrogen water is usually written as D2O or 2H2O. Externally, heavy water looks like ordinary water - a colorless liquid without taste or smell. Not radioactive, it is used as moderators of neutrons in nuclear chain reactions.

Its application looks even worse than its name.

As an amateur and connoisseur of natural elite alcoholic beverages, I was interested in the question: what will happen if ethyl alcohol is dissolved in this heavy water and its content in the solution is brought to 40% by volume? Will we make "deuterium-vodka" - "heavy vodka" on heavy water? And how safe will it be to drink it in small quantities?

Let's try to figure it out.

First, I must say that heavy water is sold in chemical stores, it can also be ordered on specialized websites, and it costs about 85 thousand rubles (about 1200 US dollars) per 1 kg. Those. even if we dilute ethyl alcohol in this water, we get a very expensive finished product. It will literally be a luxury one. To get a 0.5 liter bottle of "heavy vodka" with heavy water, you need to spend at least 26 thousand rubles (about $ 360). And taking into account all excise taxes and other taxes, its price will exceed all reasonable limits.

In this case, ethyl alcohol dissolves in heavy water as well as in ordinary water due to the formation of hydrogen bonds. When ethanol is dissolved in heavy water, as well as in ordinary water, a slight increase in temperature is observed precisely because of the formation of new hydrogen bonds.

Scientists agree that, without harm to health, a person can drink several glasses of heavy water at a time, which will be excreted from the body in a few days. In medical practice, cases of treatment of high blood pressure with heavy water with a daily dose of up to 675 g are even described.

This means that if you get "heavy vodka" on heavy water, then the most toxic component for the human body will still be ethyl alcohol itself, and not heavy water and the deuterium it contains. The use of such "heavy vodka" is an additional burden on the body compared to ordinary vodka on ordinary water, because the elimination organs will have to rid your body not only of alcohol decomposition products, but also of deuterium.

Safe use of such "heavy vodka" can be considered only its intake in small quantities, no more than 50 g per day. However, due to the high cost of heavy water in comparison with the cost of ethyl alcohol, it is unlikely that anyone would think to open the production of "heavy vodka". Plus, such an alcoholic product most likely will not be able to obtain a safety certificate, and therefore will not be sold.

I want to remind you, dear members of the forum, that the use of alcoholic beverages brings satisfaction and even benefit only in moderation, strictly individual for each person)))

Maybe some of you have recipes for exclusive drinks from natural raw materials? Please share.

thank

Here is one part:



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Fun note: The label on the bottle: United Nuclear, if i recall correctly that is the shop of our good friend Bob Lazar !

a reply to: EartOccupant

Thank. It's a pity that there are no Russian subtitles on the video, I will have to translate for a long time)))

a reply to: RussianTroll

Use the automated subtitles and change it to Russian.

Wouldn't you be diluting the alcohol?

For instance, if you put a shot of vodka in a shot of water, it's now at half strength by volume. This is why people make mixed drinks or have drinks on ice, it makes the alcohol more bearable, burns less.

Diluting it in heavy water would have the same result would it not?

It would be a cool novelty at the liquor store but I doubt it would be legal to sell. I know in America the FDA probably wouldn't allow something with heavy water in it for consumption to be sold. Does Russia have an FDA?

a reply to: FlyingSquirrel

Russians do not like to dilute spirits. Of course, there are those who pour Coca-Cola into Jack Daniels, but that is bad taste. true connoisseurs appreciate the natural natural taste and depth of aftertaste.

If people buy and drink craft drinks, then alcohol for them is necessarily made from natural raw materials, and only then a whole range of drinks is made from it - from vodka to various tinctures, brandy, whiskey and even Limoncello.

In any case, commercial alcohol is never used in craft beverages. Distillate only.

Of course, in Russia there is an analogue FDA

a reply to: RussianTroll

Anyone can make heavy water.

Leave it to Russians to actually drink it lol.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Mixed drinks at bars in Russia really aren't popular? Everyone drinks straight shots or has beers?

I mix West Indies gold rum in cola on a daily basis. A jewel of the Americas. Alcohol is formed from sugars is it not? What better than to make it out of sugar itself.

a reply to: FlyingSquirrel

Yes, young people drink cocktails and mixed drinks in bars. Connoisseurs of natural alcohol drink craft drinks made from wheat, rye, barley, malt, wine, fruit and berry distillates. Moreover, the distillate of triple distillation is especially appreciated. The "heads" and "tails" are selected and discarded. The amount of natural ingredients on which drinks are then infused and absorbed can reach up to 20.
For example, my brother, for his home distillery, when making an analogue of whiskey, buys in France scrapings from oak barrels in which sherry was infused.
Alcoholic drinks according to old (more than 100 years old) recipes are especially appreciated.
Such drinks are expensive, but the pleasure of drinking is maximum.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Star and flag for originality

If you try this, let us know how it went.

'Cowdy' is a tool.

a reply to: EartOccupant

originally posted by: MapOfNowhere
a reply to: RussianTroll

Star and flag for originality

If you try this, let us know how it went.

Thank!

Oh no, I won't drink such a drink. It's just that curiosity plays in me)))

I'd drink it, mix it up Rooskie you know what make me 2 cause I might want a chaser.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Diluting whiskey is actually a good thing. Apparently there are some volatile compounds that affect taste in younger whiskeys. So adding a little bit of water helps to bring down the alcohol and soften the taste affecting volatile compounds in whiskey. Making it taste better.

a reply to: RussianTroll

www.chemistryworld.com...

Alcohol makes us drunk. It is a slow-acting anaesthetic, sabotaging the brain, releasing our lower nature, and tempting us to easy emotionalism. It upsets our balance, too - one theory is that alcohol reduces the density of bodily fluids. The semicircular canals of the ear, which govern our balance, therefore lose their balancing skill. Deuterium oxide (heavy water, D2O) also upsets our balance. It acts in just the opposite way to alcohol, increasing the density of our fluids. Hence it should be possible to devise a ’heavy gin’ with just the right amount of deuterium oxide in it to keep the endolymph fluid in the semicircular canals at the proper density. A drinker would get as emotional as ever, but his balance would not be upset. 

Sounds promising to me.


ETA: wait...maybe not
www.clutchprep.com... heir

When D2O is added to an alcohol (ROH), deuterium replaces the proton of the hydroxyl group.

ROH + D2O ⇌ ROD + DOH  

The reaction takes place extremely rapidly, and if D2O is present in excess, all the alcohol is converted to ROD. This hydrogen–deuterium exchange can be catalyzed by either acids or bases. If D3O+ is the catalyst in acid solution and DO- the catalyst in base, write reasonable reaction mechanisms for the conversion of ROH to ROD under conditions of (a) acid catalysis and (b) base catalysis. 

a reply to: grey580

I like undiluted single malt whiskey and bourbon.

a reply to: dug88

"In vino veritas, in aqua sanitas" (lat.)

a reply to: RussianTroll

True quality spirits are like drinking flames, and no aftertaste.

a reply to: solve

I'll tell you a story from my youth. When I was about 16 years old my father brought from Moscow the French cognac Remy Martin. It was in short supply, it could be bought through an acquaintance at the Eliseevsky store. On the cognac there was a small book in which the history of vineyards in France and the plant where the cognac was produced was described in Russian. There was also an instruction. how to drink it correctly. I remembered her for the rest of my life:
"Fold your tongue in a boat. Pour 18 grams of the drink on your tongue. Hold it for a while, feel the taste, and then, without swallowing, tilt your head back and let the drink flow quietly down your larynx. After 5-10 seconds, you will feel the aftertaste."
I have remembered this for the rest of my life. Good spirits cannot be taken lightly. The culture of their use must be respected.

a reply to: grey580

Get a bottle of Pappy VanWinkles.

No water required.

Jameson is a more economic and more obtainable alternative.