The very first reports of novel coronavirus

first WHO report

This report sums up several reports submitted to the WHO by Wuhan medical authority.

The first of their reports was on 31 at December 2019

Wuhan report 31 december 19

Further reports , see links , identify the first onset of symptoms on any patients as 12 December 2019

The initial reports show case numbers increasing rapidly , and by (the time of the first WHO report) on 12 January 2020 numbers of cases are not identified.

The WHO at this point identify that travel restrictions are not deemed necessary.

The first media reports are going to be sometime after the 12 th January as journalists check further WHO releases.

The reports identify the seafood market as being central to the outbreak . If workers from there had travelled outside china at all during November or early December this would be critical information .

The reports show progress in excluding causes and various pathogen initiators of viral pnumonia are excluded until coronavirus is identified and is called 'new coronavirus' .

This is left here for further reference .
Looking for first media reports also .

US intelligence service got information from inside China about the virus problem in second week of November , they informed white house, NATO and Israel .


Link

Trump visited China on November 8th, US intelligence briefs Nato and Israel around the second week of November about the coronavirus then Trump makes an unscheduled visit to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on November 16.

a reply to: Kenzo

There's problems with that report which are unknown origin , not date stamped , source " channel 12"
It assumes a leak from the Chinese government , internal Chinese sharing , unsanctioned release of intelligence, all of which are unlikely and masquerades behind accusations of inaction .

Intelligence ' communities' don't just randomly share reports especially if unverified and source sensitive , the founding agency is unidentified either . Why would they have gone to nato with it , health agencies would be more appropriate .
That report has a lot of holes in it and you've brought it as if it was fact. That said the national review mentions the matter too , but that kind of rumour could be useful in protecting allies like the UK state if perhaps they knew something about the true source. Thanks for bringing though

a reply to: DoctorBluechip


Well even the South China Morning post talks about patient zero November 17


Coronavirus: China’s first confirmed Covid-19 case traced back to November 17



Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources


US alerted Israel, NATO to disease outbreak in China in November — TV report


I doubt the official timeline is accurate...most likely knowing China they tryed to again cover up things first...And intelligence agencies dont generally go tell media what they know, at least not right after they got the information...this news about November might be leaked much later...

And a couple of other things the Wuhan medical authority IS a likely source of original identification and why would the Wuhan seafood market even be mentioned , if it was a deception as being central to the source , as it is so close to the Wuhan bioresearch facility ? Telling lies about that would be akin to Chinese government shooting itself in the foot ? That's if it had prior knowledge .
If it was circulating in china enough to have known earlier they could have used another authority in a different district to release the information from.
And again , why choose a wholesale seafood market ? A market selling animals would have been more appropriate ?

a reply to: Kenzo
Again why cover something up that has the potential to cripple your country as it has done ?
Why not immediate swift and dramatic action instead , as was demonstrated ?

From South china morning post

 first case of someone in China suffering from 

Covid-19

, the disease caused by the novel 

coronavirus

, can be traced back to November 17, according to government data seen by the South China Morning Post.

That's an American backed news source so why
they haven't released the source and since when does the CCP release documents to them ?

From that warning in November, the sources described repeated briefings through December for policy-makers and decision-makers across the federal government as well as the National Security Council at the White House. All of that culminated with a detailed explanation of the problem that appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, the sources said. For something to have appeared in the PDB, it would have had to go through weeks of vetting and analysis, according to people who have worked on presidential briefings in both Republican and Democratic administrations.

"The timeline of the intel side of this may be further back than we’re discussing," the source said of preliminary reports from Wuhan. "But this was definitely being briefed beginning at the end of November as something the military needed to take a posture on."

from the ABC report April
It's a clearer report but
They're relying only on a "source" and the ( November) reports are officially denied anyway. Something appearing in the president's intel briefing in January could have
come direct from who report as seen in the op.
Also this report contradicts the original source kenzo linked , saying djt was briefed in November and ignored it.

originally posted by: DoctorBluechip
a reply to: Kenzo
Again why cover something up that has the potential to cripple your country as it has done ?
Why not immediate swift and dramatic action instead , as was demonstrated ?

From South china morning post

 first case of someone in China suffering from 

Covid-19

, the disease caused by the novel 

coronavirus

, can be traced back to November 17, according to government data seen by the South China Morning Post.

That's an American backed news source so why
they haven't released the source and since when does the CCP release documents to them ?

The South China Morning Post is owned by Alibaba Group ( Chinese )

Associated Press report on Wednesday said Xi’s warning came seven days after Chinese officials secretly determined that they were likely facing a pandemic, potentially costing China and other countries valuable time to prepare for the outbreak.

Doctors in Wuhan, the city at the center of the outbreak in China, are reported to have first tried to have warn about the virus in December, but were censored.

The Chinese government has repeatedly denied suppressing information in the early days, saying it immediately reported the outbreak to the World Health 

This sounds more like the facts , although given there's not much difference between the 17 th November and the 12 th December. At the same time that difference could be critical information too.

Many thanks for bringing these links

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

So you are happy believing the WHO ? Or China ?


Why would Israeli newspaper let publish story if it`s all fake ?

One more thing , if patient zero was 17 November , that's not enough time even for a pandemic to ratchet up to either being known about by the Chinese government , far less on to bring leaked information enough to brief anyone on the outside in November , or even most of December. Or make confirmations enough through December to put in the pdb report in January.
It's very suspicious that these reports even exist .

Assuming the first Wuhan symptomatic cases were in fact on the 12th December , point source might be more like the back end of November , and it could have arrived in Wuhan from anywhere. We 'think ' we know exactly where point source was , who patient zero was , and it wasn't from China . That's because of exactly correlating dates symptoms travel arrangements and a host of other factors including the presence of something called a ' kaiju ' and high and low level authority involvement in the cover-up of a biocrime.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

So you are happy believing the WHO ? Or China ?


Why would Israeli newspaper let publish story if it`s all fake ?

Yes. Israeli newspaper had " source" go to them .

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

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a reply to: DoctorBluechip

The following is purely anecdotal at this point, so take it for what it's worth.

The end of February/beginning of March, I did my own searching, and found cases of pneumonia (of unknown origin) going back to June 2019 in Wuhan. It was first reported as "isolated" cases in early summer, then "clusters" in late summer/early fall, then an "outbreak" in mid- to late fall, and finally a pandemic.

I also read a report from someone who had traced eight confirmed Covid patients who had traveled back to the USA from Wuhan in mid-December, and that those eight alone could have resulted in 10,000 infections. The point of the report was that Covid had been here much longer than presumed, and that it had already traveled far and wide, infecting many along the way.

So much value and emphasis put on the numbers... which have been faked, falsified and Heaven only knows what else!

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: DoctorBluechip


The end of February/beginning of March, I did my own searching, and found cases of pneumonia (of unknown origin) going back to June 2019 in Wuhan.

How ... can you read Chinese ?

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

How ... can you read Chinese ?

Really? You're really something special.

But gotcha. Go ahead -- embrace ignorance. I won't make this mistake again.