The Left is for more controls vs Right no gov at all and Free speech

a reply to: Justoneman


I've stopped engaging with people about politics in real life, it's too volatile right now. I just try to be nice and hope that others follow my lead.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Justoneman

As I said, their core is made up of anarchists. They don't want any government. Which is why they oppose people that want to use the government to oppress people.

where is there a statement that lays out what they really want?

a reply to: Justoneman

You're in a mission to re-educate the world?
Scholars have tried that too, often, but I guarantee you ordinary people will always regard anarchists as left and fascists as right.
And I'm not sure why that would be a problem because both democrats and repulicans are centre. Or they wouldn't be trusted to be in power...

originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: Justoneman


I've stopped engaging with people about politics in real life, it's too volatile right now. I just try to be nice and hope that others follow my lead.

Unfortunately Politics has a way of making smart people stupid.

a reply to: network dude

Considering it's not a centralized organization, there isn't one. I know a number of "leaders" in Antifa. Every single one of them is an anarchist.

originally posted by: ambassado12
That may be true but the real roots of the American right is limited government. The right ideology is the same platform as the founding fathers.

Who taught you history? When you say the 'Founding Fathers' wanted limited government are you talking about the Federalists or Anti-Federalists?

originally posted by: Blueracer
"That is patently false". Libertarians want Limited government.

There are anarcho-Libertarians, this is a fact.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Justoneman

They protest because they are forced to work within the confines of the law. Do you really think any of those tiki torch wielding fascists in Charlottesville would be left alive if there wasn't a police presence?

Antifa are leftist who shut down FREE SPEECH and fair play. That is all they know how to do.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

Considering it's not a centralized organization, there isn't one. I know a number of "leaders" in Antifa. Every single one of them is an anarchist.

Oh so you are one of them? Thanks for playing the game.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Justoneman

You're in a mission to re-educate the world?
Scholars have tried that too, often, but I guarantee you ordinary people will always regard anarchists as left and fascists as right.
And I'm not sure why that would be a problem because both democrats and repulicans are centre. Or they wouldn't be trusted to be in power...

Some of them have drifted but I think that is a great observation. Centrists is what most of us really are at the end of the day.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Blueracer
"That is patently false". Libertarians want Limited government.

There are anarcho-Libertarians, this is a fact.

That is absolutely fair. I am for very limited gov because all they can do is take and when they offer to help they often skim more off for their vacation homes than makes it to the needed place.

a reply to: Justoneman

Nope. Never been to a rally or protest in my life. But as someone that doesn't live in an echo chamber I associate with people that don't hold my beliefs.

Those who want no government at all are "anarchists." In terms of current political parties, Libertarians probably come closest to wanting minimal government.

As for Republicans being the party of "no gov at all" -- puhleeze!!!

Republicans are just as happy to use the law (and the barrel of a government gun) to force their will upon everyone else. Here are three examples:

8 Republicans Who Are Preventing Marijuana Legalization in Congress

GOP Senator Defends Mandatory Vaccinations After Paul Says They’re Inconsistent with Liberty

In Texas, Perry's Vaccine Mandate Provoked Anger

13 Virginia Republican Senators Stand Like a Stone Wall against Gay Marriage

Dems don't have monopoly on tyranny. The Pubs are just as bad in their own way.

Republicans don’t want an absence of government, they want a government controlled by corporate interests which they can exploit. They want an American oligarchy that they themselves can be the leaders of.

That’s the end game of their beliefs and policies. No matter what BS they try to sell you, if you look a little deeper it all comes back around to this.

originally posted by: Boadicea
In terms of current political parties, Libertarians probably come closest to wanting minimal government.

^ Smartest person on the interwebs.

originally posted by: underwerks
Republicans don’t want an absence of government, they want a government controlled by corporate interests which they can exploit. They want an American oligarchy that they themselves can be the leaders of.

That’s the end game of their beliefs and policies. No matter what BS they try to sell you, if you look a little deeper it all comes back around to this.

All the tech giants are all liberal, and are all actively working to censor speech they don't agree with. Republicans are not in the corporate interest of Google, Facebook, Apple, Twitter, Microsoft, Amazon, etc. Wake up.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

^ Smartest person on the interwebs.

Awwww shucks! I'm so honored I'm strutting like a peacock now!!!

There'll be no living with my big fat head after this

a reply to: jjkenobi

And what companies do Republicans wish the government would break up and slap with lawsuits?

a reply to: interupt42

One rules with an "iron boot" the other a "velvet glove". They both want absolute power over people.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Justoneman

Nope. Never been to a rally or protest in my life. But as someone that doesn't live in an echo chamber I associate with people that don't hold my beliefs.

Ok say what you want I KNOW they are against all of our right to say what we want unless they WANT to hear it and we all see it when they 'rally'.