12 Hours To Go And We Are OUT Of The EU.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

The British economy is better than the USSR one back then in some ways but only for some. Much of our country are alreadfy economic wastelands with the decline of heavey industry, mining, shipbuilding etc. Those regions are largely propped up by Japanese / European transplants such as Nissan etc and these are totally reliant on hassle free trade and sales with the rest of the EU. 70% os parts for out car industry come from the EU continentals and just a slight stoppage in transportation or tariffs will mean an economic catastrophe very same as dislution of the Soviets in 1991. As someone involved in industry everything we use component wise comes from Germany, Itraly, we gonna be up the creek with no paddle if thinhs hit the fan. Britain just doesn't produce the base materials for our sectors, we may assemble but it all comes from the continent. It really is fingers crossed time as the EU might decide to turn on the screws

You are correct that in some industries, many of our components come from EU states. However, that is also a disingenuous argument in that by EU Law, we have to source those components from EU states. That will change now and we will be free to go elsewhere cheaper - or to continue purchasing from EU states.

I'm still a remainer (or rather a rejoiner now!) and do envisage problems ahead but there are also many opportunities - which should be recognised whichever side of the fence you sit on.

originally posted by: Goedhardt

And there you have my point. We indeed do not have a say, but they dictate what we can or cannot do in our own country. No way we can vote for a body that actually has a say in all of this.

As recognised by 52% of the British people!

Working together: yes
EUSSR: no

a reply to: operation mindcrime

It's Germany, France and the east European countries that are making the policies.

Overwhelmingly France and Germany. The only "policies" out of the east are an attempt to slow the EU steamroller.

And the French and Germans have proven adept in finding Belgians, Dutchmen, and Luxembourgers to be their unpopular front men for strong-arming.

Too much going on below the surface, too little transparency and accountability.

Cheers

any kind of celebration going on over there for this?
I saw the "coins"...

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

The British economy is better than the USSR one back then in some ways but only for some. Much of our country are alreadfy economic wastelands with the decline of heavey industry, mining, shipbuilding etc. Those regions are largely propped up by Japanese / European transplants such as Nissan etc and these are totally reliant on hassle free trade and sales with the rest of the EU. 70% os parts for out car industry come from the EU continentals and just a slight stoppage in transportation or tariffs will mean an economic catastrophe very same as dislution of the Soviets in 1991. As someone involved in industry everything we use component wise comes from Germany, Itraly, we gonna be up the creek with no paddle if thinhs hit the fan. Britain just doesn't produce the base materials for our sectors, we may assemble but it all comes from the continent. It really is fingers crossed time as the EU might decide to turn on the screws

You talk as if the EU is the world The EU is 27 countries, more than

half of whom are 'carried' by the bigger more prosperous countries in that

union.

Outside of the EU there are 168 other countries world wide .......

Trade works both ways, if we take ours else where with the length of time the

EU needs to make a deal they will be screwed.


Now that we have shed the cumbersome burden of the EU we can become a

lean, mean fighting machine......a force to be reconned with.

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: LogicalGraphitti
alreadfy economic wastelands with the decline of heavey industry, mining, shipbuilding etc.

It's not so different in the USA. I'm always optimistic that those are industries we can get back with the right leadership. Same for the UK. Start building again. Who knows, maybe some wealthy British industrialists will buy back Jaguar, Land Rover and Mini. That would be cool!

You really couldn't make it up over here LogicalGraphitti................. The big bizness people / govt really don't care it's all about dosh dosh dosh and backhanders. You go to German or Italy, France they all build their own trains for their own networks, oh no not here. Go on a British train you can bet it was made abroad. it's just mental plus same with our subways. No hope for local production with the barmy British elite but as you say we need to be optimistic that if this elite were removed then it could happ

a reply to: eletheia

Be curious to see if Pompeo can convince you guys of backing away from Huawai.

Peace

a reply to: ForteanOrg

If there'e one people that was always good to be in the Eu with its you Dutch people plus the Belgians or at leat some northern ones. Gonna miss you guys loads, not sure about the French and German humour never really got it

originally posted by: Flavian many of our components come from EU states. However, that is also a disingenuous argument in that by EU Law, we have to source those components from EU states. That will change now and we will be free to go elsewhere cheaper - or to continue purchasing from EU states.

As long as there is no disruption to trade and defo no tariffs applied then hopefully things will be ok, but in board rooms acroos the EU when it comes to dealing, investing, in Britain things are going to look a little different from now on. It's true we can now go elsewhere for cheaper components but the thing is those Europeans actually make some very good stuff and others just don't match what they do in addition to them being easy to obtain next day, not sure that is going to be possible by bringing in from Durban Anyways it's all theory and here goes the rollercoaster to a brighter, better and free-er future where we have undone the shackles of free trade and econimc certainty which is going to be wonderful as we hold all the cards

originally posted by: eletheia


Now that we have shed the cumbersome burden of the EU we can become a

lean, mean fighting machine......a force to be reconned with.

I love the jingoism of the Farage Fan Club

a reply to: alldaylong

Congratulations. The citizens of the UK has put off a takeover of the world by The New World Order. I need to send a box of some fine cigars to my brother in law in London.

God Save The Queen

a reply to: operation mindcrime

the process - SHOULD be faster than a " new " deal - because - hey we alreaddy have a massive folio of existing deals - that cover almost every issue

sane invividual would siply vote to continue many deals " as is " or with minor edits to reflect new realities

but hey - we are dealing with the EU and borris s clown army - so expecting sanity ...................

So what does that mean...you are banned from travel/trade or communications with the Dutch?


a reply to: ufoorbhunter

I’ve always been global minded ‘brit’ so it’s actually exciting to see what opportunities lay ahead. Everything was slow, ponderous and plain boring with the EU...that’s not who we are as people. Cutting edge innovation, research facilities, the NHS, a globally lived music and arts scene and some great many forward thinkers that have changed the world.

Yes, the EU has helped a great deal in so many areas but it’s also stiffling. We’ll all still be friends hopefully.
Now’s the time to do what we do but with a rocket up our Aristotle

originally posted by: lakenheath24
So what does that mean...you are banned from travel/trade or communications with the Dutch?


a reply to: ufoorbhunter

shouldn't everybody be?

schmoke and a pancake?

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: lakenheath24
So what does that mean...you are banned from travel/trade or communications with the Dutch?


a reply to: ufoorbhunter

shouldn't everybody be?

schmoke and a pancake?

It ain't much without the Dutch....lol

Peace

a reply to: Waterglass

Congratulations. The citizens of the UK has put off a takeover of the world by The New World Order

You mean the citizens of the UK have been duped into not allowing an audit of the corporation of London and allowed the continual concealment of asets in the The largest and richest tax haven in the world that falls outward of the Democratic process bu still gets the full protection of a sovereign state. Pays no tax and has its own laws.

a reply to: Waterglass

Congratulations. The citizens of the UK has put off a takeover of the world by The New World Order

You mean the citizens of the UK have been duped into not allowing an audit of the corporation of London and allowed the continual concealment of asets in the The largest and richest tax haven in the world that falls outward of the Democratic process bu still gets the full protection of a sovereign state. Pays no tax and has its own laws.

And a big middle finger to Article 13 (or Article 17 as it is now) whilst we're at it

a reply to: purplemer

You mean the citizens of the UK have been duped into not allowing an audit of the corporation of London and allowed the continual concealment of asets in the The largest and richest tax haven in the world that falls outward of the Democratic process

So you have been around here since 2008. Have you ever written a Thread about the above? Please reply because I would like to read it.