Epstein's Death Was On 4Chan Before Officials Announced It — Now Authorities Are Investigating

a reply to: FredT

I thought you were refering to Joey, from Friends.

originally posted by: InfiniteTrinity
a reply to: FredT

I thought you were refering to Joey, from Friends.

LOl I did get the reference but for this kind of medical mishap you don't need 'Smell The Fart Acting" rather someone more like Dr. Nick Rivera ala the Simpsons

a reply to: FredT

Ok that's pretty Mandela-ish. I thought I saw all episodes but cannot recall this character. Only Simpson doctor I knew was chuckling black dude.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Nothing about this event has precedent, it is quite literally in a league of its own. On the one hand, him being murdered by a myriad of differing and non-related folks, is very plausible, especially given the precise location on the planet of where he was being held, the list of things he was accused of and the high profile names dropped in the court docs just before the event.

On the other hand, and because of the unprecedented nature of what is quite literally a still-happening-event-in-motion, I can't discount him still being alive because there is nothing that proves he's dead other than a few photos of a body on a stretcher which looks more like Anthony Bourdain than it does Epstein.

One thing I've discounted as a possible cause of his death is suicide.

I have a feeling something big is about to drop, and it is something that will be felt around the world.

The reality is, any one of these possible outcomes may have happened, the sad thing is a huge amount of people don't believe anything that is released in the news or media, we don't trust them at all. There have been too many instances of horrible people in high places getting away with terrible crimes.
What we are left with is very little faith in our governments and official agencies, this is the real damning reality of the current world we live in.

The fact they boldly push on without skipping a beat hammers home the reality that we are their subjects and they live and exist on different terms.

originally posted by: flice
They couldnt risk killing him inside in case he started shouting or therd would be comotion.

Which the CBS News "source familiar with the situation" tells us there was.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

I have a feeling something big is about to drop, and it is something that will be felt around the world.

Yes, even if Jeffery was killed, someone still has his blackbooks, files, secret video, and photos. Mossad more than likely.

For what it’s worth, I keep the company of numerous medics/firefighters- who will, upon my insistence that they have needed expertise- entertain my conspiracy theory side on occasion.

Following this super closely and showing them all the photos, all the news information released, going over protocol, optics, you name it-

Their suspicions were most heavily focused on the 4chan post being the “something doesn’t belong here” game.

my initial reaction to it, was suspicious as well, because of the recent controversy that 4/8 Chan have been under. For the record I am not familiar with or a user of said sites, but what knowledge I have about them is from following the Q thread.

Since jadedandcynical excellently provided proof that one of the Chan posts was definite bunk, I’d put my guess on the other one being a planted post from intelligence before I would assume a NY medic might gamble their life in such a way, -but- with that being said, it is not out of the realm of possibility, as well as keeping in mind the notion that for the global house of cards to ever have a chance at falling, average people probably will need to put their livelihoods in jeopardy in such a way to disseminate any kind of real world changing truth to the masses, if one perhaps ended up in a viable position to do so.

This particular circumstance, even if the Chan post IS real, truthful, etc... it doesn’t give us anything helpful, to be honest, and if identity was revealed, would destroy someone’s career...

So I’m going to personally say I think the greater issue here might be whether the Chan post was a “plant” that could be spun to further censor/reduce freedom of speech on the net. Which seems plausible given the obvious playbook unfolding with regard to any manner of “speech” in general. LARP speech will be the newly deemed threat, as I’ve sensed a common theme occurring with accusations of “game/role playing” dragging unwitting masses into “their alternate reality”

If that particular theory is true, (that it was a planted comment) consequentially I think we might could draw the conclusion that Epstein’s “suicide” was not a surprise/organic event to a faction of some operating in high places.

Never let a good tragedy go to waste.

Great discussion here.

a reply to: FredT

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Sublimecraft



Mossad more than likely.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he was Mossad - that would certainly explain his asset base, and bodes well with the conspiracy that he was an entrapment specialist.

a reply to: SouthernGift

Holy crap! I want to applaud you. You do ATS proud with such thinking out of the box. I must admit that it fits well well with known two birds -one stone theorist. Definitely, making me look at the 4 chan post thread differently. Thank you.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he was Mossad - that would certainly explain his asset base, and bodes well with the conspiracy that he was an entrapment specialist.

I think the same can be said for Ghislaine Maxwell -- perhaps even more so, since her father (Robert Maxwell) was known to work for/with Mossad.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

The plan is to make it so confusing as to what happened, who was involved, who was the moron who wasn't checking and or watching the cctv feed etc. to the point that people will not know the truth or believe it.

a reply to: Dwoodward85

Yup. Feels all too familiar as well, that sense of nothing adding up.

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: SouthernGift

Holy crap! I want to applaud you. You do ATS proud with such thinking out of the box. I must admit that it fits well well with known two birds -one stone theorist. Definitely, making me look at the 4 chan post thread differently. Thank you.

Why, I am flattered... I was a little nervous jumping in with you, Boadicea, and jaded, you are all so articulate and lay out your thoughts and research beautifully....but I needed somewhere to float my theory and I greatly appreciate anyone who might consider its plausibility - although I don’t have any sources I can link or quote- I’m working purely off speculation, personal experiences and intuition.

This entire spectacle is on the stranger side, that is for sure, but I’ve seen many an excellent theory floated on this site since (gasp) 2005- and I have decided my lurk days are over.

a reply to: Sublimecraft


Judging by his assets which if looked at as his percentage for investing other peoples money into the VI accounts. The accounts must hold near a Trillion dollars or more. The interesting thing is if you wanted to invest in these accounts, you had to give Jeffery power of attorney. He obviously had a knack for numbers as his Maths teaching would suggest . But if you killed him you would kill the access to these accounts. Or at least be unable to get to them without his nominated party. Hence its very unbelievable that he's really dead, although the identity might be.

originally posted by: flice

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Diaspar

So only one of these 2 "inside sources" can be true.

Either the one this OP is talking about - that he did suicide and they tried to revive him,
or the one you posted above - which shows he got switched out.

Either or, so that's why I speculated this 4chan post could be a decoy to lead us away from the truth. If they did switch him out than they had to plan it out ahead of time and could easily have planted this fake 4chan post to go back and dissuade everyone from speculating he was alive still.

Or.... both are true.
They tell Epstein he is being transferred. Move him out. Military guy arrives. Epstein put in van. Choked to death with a sheet. Wheeled back inside. Military guy leaves again.
Epstein put back in his cell and tied to the bed.
>>> suicided.

They couldnt risk killing him inside in case he started shouting or therd would be comotion.

Interesting theory - I like it.
Good thinking!

originally posted by: FredT

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Diaspar

No in the article linked in the OP it shows a completely different claim. It's like some paramedic's super detailed description of their attempts to revive him, etc. It uses shorthand and terminology that only the medic would know how to use.

So I'm not a medic but I play one on TV...... On a serious note I have medics on my team so I'm used to med speak

The posted comments are not heavy that with medic lingo. It seems more like someone trying to pretend that they were a medic to have people look elsewhere.

Also, the penalties are super stiff for a HIPPA violation which this would be so why would anybody risk this especially since there is ZERO monetary gain by using 4chan

I had to look up several terms and shorthand and I'm pretty decently educated. So that's why I think that person has to have some form of knowledge of an informed nature.

Also them posting it before the news broke is a pretty strong indicator that they had inside knowledge.

originally posted by: InfiniteTrinity
a reply to: FredT

Ok that's pretty Mandela-ish. I thought I saw all episodes but cannot recall this character. Only Simpson doctor I knew was chuckling black dude.

Not to hijack but assuming you are talking about the Simpsons then this shows how silly ME's are.

If you don't remember Dr. Nick and his "hi everybody" then you either didn't see multiple episodes or your memory isn't great.

Anyway back to the thread.

a reply to: SouthernGift

ATS needs more to step out of their comfort zone. That is what drew me in. Even if your theory or gut reaction comes to naught, it is best to put it out there for one never knows when it will lead to real truths.

Keep speaking up and don't hold back.

I wonder how many 3 letter disinfo geeks 4chan has to direct the narrative. An agency would be foolish not to use the cyber world as a tool to monitor and steer the national dialog.