the " sting in the tail " of the alabama abortion bill

just for any one who is still deluded enough to think its anything but a mysogenistic clusterfook

theres an " ammendment " - that turns a " not guilty " verdict in a rape trail to an AUTOMATIC conviction of " false accusation " - with custodial sentencing [ jail ] options

yup folks - if the accused is found not guilty - the woman made a false accusation and MAY be sent to prison

no due process - no justice

most of the rest of the world has the civility to conduct a investigation to determine if false accusation charges should be levied and a trial to determine if the women is guilty

alabama just side stepped that - if he is aquitted - you must be guilty - do not pass go - we can send you to prison

its not about " pro life " - its about controlling women

congrats alabama - you are now a barbarian crap hole

a reply to: ignorant_ape

I think if you break the law and which could possibly ruin your life by going to jail you should have a trial first. Why is this a problem? You can't just put people in jail based on someone's personal judgment.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

So it's somehow better if a woman can accuse a man of rape, potentially putting him in jail for many years after exhausting his legal resources... and if he somehow gets through it he has to start a whole new case to prove he didn't rape her a second time?

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Pretty much amounts to Fetuses rights now!

What a load of nonsensical twaddle in the entirety. LoL

A Woman's body is her own concern, quite simple.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

its not about " pro life " - its about controlling women

That's what its always been about. I like to call them pro birth instead of pro life. Because its obvious they don't care about what happens to the person after they're born.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

This is absolutely chilling... I expected your thread to be about the risk of a mother being criminally charged for miscarrying -- which is equally chilling!

Lack of enough evidence for conviction doesn't necessarily equal innocent! Sure, there might be some false accusations among such cases... but it's not guaranteed! Certainly not to the extent that a woman should be deemed guilty without benefit of trial, or any other due process. This is shameful and unconscionable.

originally posted by: a325nt
a reply to: ignorant_ape

So it's somehow better if a woman can accuse a man of rape, potentially putting him in jail for many years after exhausting his legal resources... and if he somehow gets through it he has to start a whole new case to prove he didn't rape her a second time?

Not to speak for the OP, but that's not how I understood it...

Rather, if a woman accuses a man of rape and the man is not found guilty, then the woman is automatically deemed guilty of falsely accusing the man of rape. No trial or due process of an kind for the woman. It does not take into account that the man may in fact be guilty, but evidence sufficient for a guilty verdict is lacking, or any other reason a guilty man may not be found guilty.

This will just make sure that more victims will not come forward because if they don't win the case they will now be automatically charged with false statements.
Is there an agenda behind this?

originally posted by: JHumm
This will just make sure that more victims will not come forward because if they don't win the case they will now be automatically charged with false statements.
Is there an agenda behind this?

I think you answered your own question.

This is pretty horrible, women should leave that state now.

wrong thread

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: ignorant_ape

its not about " pro life " - its about controlling women

Because its obvious they don't care about what happens to the person after they're born.

Is it obvious?

What do "they" do that makes it so obvious they don't care what happens to the person post-birth? And is it all of them who don't care? What percentage, then? And do you have a link to the statistics on that?

a reply to: KansasGirl

Fail to provide adequate affordable health care for all.
to start

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: ignorant_ape

its not about " pro life " - its about controlling women

Because its obvious they don't care about what happens to the person after they're born.

Is it obvious?

What do "they" do that makes it so obvious they don't care what happens to the person post-birth? And is it all of them who don't care? What percentage, then? And do you have a link to the statistics on that?

Do I really need a link to show that Republicans dont support the social programs that help these unwanted children after they're born?

originally posted by: NthOther
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I think you're in the wrong thread.

This thread is about due process and protecting women from predators, I don't think that is party exclusive, more of a constitutional thing.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Leftists defending the Constitution?

Aaaahahahahahahahahaha!

I needed that this morning.

originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Leftists defending the Constitution?

Aaaahahahahahahahahaha!

I needed that this morning.

Here, I'll spell it out for you so maybe you can see the dilemma, and we can save the partisan circle jerking for another thread.

We're going to do a role play though experiment, in which I will play the bad guy.

I'm a young decent looking guy, I download tinder in Alabama and make a cheesy bio and make sure to have pics with me and some puppies.

Me and an attractive young girl match and we start talking to get to know each other. She thinks I might be a guy she considers dating, we start to get more playful in our conversation and sending each other signals. Finally, we plan a day to get coffee and go on a hike (sounds innocent enough, alcohol isn't involved). Everything is going great, and we get out in the middle of no where and I have my way.

She accuses me of rape and we go to court. I show them the tinder messages where there is some playful banter, they can't prove without a reasonable doubt this happens, so I get let off...

She goes to prison without a court case.

That's not left or right. It's due process and a constitutional issue that everyone with two braincells can see as more than just flawed.

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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: ignorant_ape

Pretty much amounts to Fetuses rights now!

What a load of nonsensical twaddle in the entirety. LoL

A Woman's body is her own concern, quite simple.

It isn't her own concern if I am expected to pay for her poor life choices or irresponsibility? If "we the people" are expected to pay for her mistake, "we the people" should have a say in how that mistake is dealt with.

As far as the op, women who falsely accuse men of rape should go to jail. If during the trial it is proven the woman lied or confesses she lied, how are they not guilty of committing a crime?

Cheers - Dave